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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 1:37:22 AM
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cindybode
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If you mean just show up out of the clear blue sky with a cute little fuzzybutt, yes.
If you've talked to me first, let me know that you'd love to get Jesse another guinea pig for his birthday because you know how much he loves them, and I've looked at logistics (where am I gonna put another cage?!) and figured out that yes, we can afford to feed and house another piggie, then I am ok with it.
If you are Donna's SIL and you promise to do something towards care of said pet, then you will hear from me if you don't.
This sort of thing definitely needs to be discussed ahead of time, before you talk to my child and get him all excited just to have me say no. There are all sorts of things to consider - not just food and general care, but how that pet is likely to integrate with the rest of the family (two - and four-legged alike). If you just show up on the doorstep with an animal, I am likely to take it unless it very obviously would not work out (no, that is NOT an invitation to bring more critters to the farm, thank you!), but we will have a long conversation later and you will probably not like it.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 2:19:36 AM
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YES that would most definitely be overstepping bounds! Pets are one of those things that often have TONS of hidden baggage that goes along with owning a pet. Like Cindy said - it goes beyond food and general care. There are vet bills, compatibility with the rest of the family and space issues! Right now my kids are trying to talk us into another dog, but they know the answer is no. Our current dog is older, very set in her ways and to bring in a puppy right now just wouldn't work say nothing about the rest of the critters around here.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 3:06:33 AM
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garsyt
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parents gifting their own children - still living with them - a pet is one thing. BUT someone just out of the blue giving my child a gift would be a BIG no-no! I'd likely take it - but you could be certain that I would be issuing the giver a serious talk about boundries!
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 3:49:26 AM
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If it were a basket filled with demon possessed cats, then no. Give them a fruit basket instead. More healthy and less harmful.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 8:36:56 AM
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lexie
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That would definitely be overstepping the boundaries in our home. There is a reason why we don't have any pets, and things are going to stay that way.
It's like Jenny-Fair and the tv - there is a reason why things aren't in your house, and the reason is not because you hadn't thought of it before! It's amazing the way people seem to think you need something.
When I was in public school a friend of mine gave me a fish for my birthday. My last fish had died and I didn't get another one because I didn't want another one. It was too much work for me (haha....a fish being too much work, oh to be young again!) I wasn't impressed at getting a fish I didn't want, and neither were my parents. They refused to clean the fish bowl, I refused to clean the fish bowl and there was nice odour throughout the house (because I refused to keep the smelly bowl in my room so I put it in the hallway!)
Finally my grandmother took the fish (and it died two weeks later.)
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 9:36:53 AM
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roligirl
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My sweet SIL gave my 6 year old daughter a hamster for her birthday. But I made SIL keep it at her house, and my daughter visited it! She hasn't given a living present since.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/27/2008 12:18:34 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: cindybode
If you mean just show up out of the clear blue sky with a cute little fuzzybutt, yes.
If you've talked to me first, let me know that you'd love to get Jesse another guinea pig for his birthday because you know how much he loves them, and I've looked at logistics (where am I gonna put another cage?!) and figured out that yes, we can afford to feed and house another piggie, then I am ok with it.
If you are Donna's SIL and you promise to do something towards care of said pet, then you will hear from me if you don't.
This sort of thing definitely needs to be discussed ahead of time, before you talk to my child and get him all excited just to have me say no. There are all sorts of things to consider - not just food and general care, but how that pet is likely to integrate with the rest of the family (two - and four-legged alike). If you just show up on the doorstep with an animal, I am likely to take it unless it very obviously would not work out (no, that is NOT an invitation to bring more critters to the farm, thank you!), but we will have a long conversation later and you will probably not like it.
Yeah, what she said.
Hmmmm... Does Donna want more fish or is that she would rather have hermit crabs?? I can help with that. 
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/28/2008 12:31:24 AM
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creationtalk
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It is DEFINITELY overstepping for someone who is not living in the household to gift a child with a pet of any type without first clearing it with the person who will be responsible for the pet. And the person living in the household who gifts a child with a pet (of any type) had better be prepared to care for the animal himself if the child doesn't.
My son was given two pets--one a turtle (cut little guy, required a HUGE amount of MY time to care for) by his non-custodial father -- and said father of course could not keep the pet at HIS house because then his little darling (age 2 or 3) would not get to enjoy it... The other was a german shepherd puppy given by the paternal grandfather...while said child was at father's house for visitation...so child had 2 days to fall in love with the dog before child goes home to mommy...who is expected to take the dog because father doesn't have room for another dog, but mommy does because she has all that land (and the horses...which the dog chased...). I have enough trouble with the animals I let my son have because he gave me that cute little look and said "PLEEEEEASE" to have to deal with animals given by another person.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/28/2008 1:21:24 AM
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cindybode
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I do have to say that this is very unlikely to happen at my house. Anyone who knows my child well enough to give him/her a gift also knows ME well enough to know that they'd better talk to me first.
I have had people ask one of my children if we could take whatever pet they were trying to rehome, but then it was not a gift and we were free to say no without hurting feelings.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/28/2008 7:09:21 PM
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ladyingrace1979
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It can also be a health concern. My children and my husband are asthmatic. Any fur or feathers, sets them off wheezing. I even have to be careful with perfumes. So yes it would end a relationship if someone "gifted" my children with a pet.
Kim Q
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 6/30/2008 10:30:24 PM
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Karaboo2
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I wouldn't gift a pet to anyone except a member of my own household.
If a friend's child was REALLY wanting say, a rabbit ... I'd be more likely to gift a book on rabbits, including detailed sections on their care, etc.
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RE: pets as gifts.... - 7/1/2008 3:42:20 AM
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DenimDiva
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I would never give a child a pet as a gift. I would never give an adult a pet as a gift. The reason why is because what if the pet and the human aren't a good match for each other?
I would never give a child any gift (living or not) that did not meet with parental approval.
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). And no, I've never done it to anybody.
For a while I thought seriously of pre-opening all her gifts! 
