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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/21/2007 10:35:25 PM
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lastblast
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Hello Admin,
Can anyone explain what happened to the remarriage after divorce thread??? Thank you.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/22/2007 1:31:23 AM
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When is divorce an acceptable option?
Divorce is not an acceptable option. We cannot allow the iniquity of divorce to rear its ugly head in the churches of God. Let this be an acceptable option in this world. Divorce should be resisted at all costs. Even if one spouse continues in sexual sins like adultery, the other spouse should not think in terms of divorce. Even if one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, the other spouse should keep trusting God for restoration. Even if the process of restoration fails, the offended spouse should trust in God.
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What does God think about divorce?
God hates divorce. God does not want any man to separate the married couple whom He has united together in one flesh. No church or any court of law has been given the authority by God to separate the married couple by way of a certificate of divorce.
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Is divorce a sin?
Of course, it is not a sin but an iniquity. It is the sin of pride in a spouse that is responsible for committing this iniquity. The person who divorces his/her spouse is not saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ. If the person concerned says that he or she is saved by the Blood of Jesus, it is a great deception and a lie.
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Does divorce make a person ineligible for ministry?
A person who has divorced his/her spouse on any ground is definitely ineligible for ministry. How can the Lord expect this person who cannot live with his imperfect spouse to bring the imperfect lost souls into His Kingdom? A person who cannot tolerate his/her spouse is not manifesting the fruit of long-suffering in his/her own life. How can the person who has rejected his/her spouse can preach on the grace of Jesus Christ? Christ, the Bridegroom in the Song of Solomon has not divorced His bride who looks swarathy but goes in search of her with an eternal love.
Of course, the spouse who has been divorced by the other spouse without any just cause is eligible for the ministry. A single parent who was divorced by her husband or by his wife as the case may be, in an unjust manner, can serve the Lord so long as he/she remains unmarried.
I am just reproducing an extract from my book. My writing is a fiction.
Satan who never slumbers is very active in attempting to destroy the vineyard of God. He deputes his soldiers i.e. his subordinate demons, on various assignments to the vineyard of God. After finishing the assignments given to them, they come back and report to Satan in his Durbar. These demons inspected various kinds of ministries, visited many Asian, African, Western and European nations and submitted their reports to Satan.
The conversations that took place between Satan and his subordinate demons are given below.
“I visited some western and European nations. In these western and European countries, we have succeeded in flooding the churches with the prosperity gospel with the result that the people of God in these nations cannot endure sufferings and curse God or murmur against Him even at the slightest provocation when they face unemployment or economic want. We have succeeded in ruining many marriages by justifying divorces and re-marriages of divorced people by quoting the Word of God. We have made those who seek divorces forget their oaths taken at the time of their marriages”. Satan asks the demon to read out the oaths taken by these people in the very presence of God:
Please read the rest of the message at http://gloryofhiscross.googlepages.com/satandarbar
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< Message edited by prophet_india -- 8/24/2007 12:42:55 AM >
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/22/2007 2:49:21 AM
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When is divorce an acceptable option?
Divorce is not an acceptable option. We cannot allow the iniquity of divorce to rear its ugly head in the churches of God. Let this be an acceptable option in this world. Divorce should be resisted at all costs. Even if one spouse continues in sexual sins like adultery, the other spouse should not think in terms of divorce. Even if one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, the other spouse should keep trusting God for restoration. Even if the process of restoration fails, the offended spouse should trust in God.
Greetings,
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When is divorce an acceptable option?
The Bible shows us
1 In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the Lord came to Zechariah the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo the prophet, saying,
2 "The Lord has been very angry with your fathers. 3 Therefore say to them, 'Thus says the Lord of hosts: "Return to Me," says the Lord of hosts, "and I will return to you," says the Lord of hosts.
We can see in v3 of Zech 1 that reconciliation is conditional;
Therefore if God is angry with the fathers and the revelation is giving that reflection that the fathers had left the covenant by the Lord saying, ("Return to Me," says the Lord of hosts, "and I will return to you,)
According the way it is written we can see by the word of the Lord that being reconciled to God is a conditional statement,... ("And I will return to you,) and pending the offer to return was still in affect and had not left the covenant…. as we saw in the case of King Saul, by the Lord saying, ("Return to Me,") here in Zech.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/22/2007 11:45:57 AM
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According the way it is written we can see by the word of the Lord that being reconciled to God is a conditional statement,... ("And I will return to you,) and pending the offer to return was still in affect and had not left the covenant…. as we saw in the case of King Saul, by the Lord saying, ("Return to Me,") here in Zech.
Loyal Gypsy
Ah, but the Lord God did not give a Time Limit per se. The only time limit one truly has is before their life ends...........If we want to read specifically of the Lord's longsuffering towards those who need to repent and turn to Him, we can find that in II Pet. 3:9.....................
Is man willing to be longsuffering as the Lord is?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 7:57:02 PM
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Obviously prophet_india has never had any of those things happen to him.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 8:24:32 PM
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Obviously prophet_india has never had any of those things happen to him.
Alone,
As Christians, do we allow our "bad" experience to dictate how we "LOVE", or do we do as Jesus does? Christians follow/imitate Jesus even when it is not pleasant............yes, even when it is downright intolerable according to our own judgments/feelings/reasonings.
If we are to respond to those who offend us(especially our spouses) as the world does, how are we any different? How is our "light" shining for the world to see Jesus in us?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 9:03:39 PM
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When is divorce an acceptable option?
Divorce is not an acceptable option. We cannot allow the iniquity of divorce to rear its ugly head in the churches of God. Let this be an acceptable option in this world. Divorce should be resisted at all costs. Even if one spouse continues in sexual sins like adultery, the other spouse should not think in terms of divorce. Even if one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, the other spouse should keep trusting God for restoration. Even if the process of restoration fails, the offended spouse should trust in God.
If one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, then the abused spouse should run for shelter and pray for God's protection. The abused spouse should seek legal protection as well and press criminal charges if applicable.
I got to tell you some things I see posted here seem far from Godly, but rather quite disturbing. 
What you say is applicable to the people of this world and not for the disciples of Jesus Christ. We have to forgive our enemies including the offending spouse who becomes inimical. We should not render evil for evil.
First of all you seem to focus on what you "think" is biblical laws and yet you don't believe in upholding the law of the land. The bible tells us we are to uphold the law of the land. In the case of abuse or indescribable torture there are laws against that and by keeping those laws does not go against any biblical laws, but rather it honors God's word.
If, someone assaults, abuses or tortures another they have broken laws and legal protection should be persued by the victim. Separating, seeking legal protection have nothing to do with forgiving an abuser. You forgive, but you don't stay in the abuse or torture.
God is Truth and Light! What you are promoting here is darkness and that is Satan, not God!
People promoting abuse and torture, then calling a victim evil for persuing help. Sounds like a cult. 
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 9:24:26 PM
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I am very disappointed in those on this thread who would condone someone doing nothing to end violence against themselves or their children. The Bible says he is worse than an infidel.
I was able to accept that you simply believed things a little differently about divorce and remarriage than what the Bible actually teaches, and excuse that as you just not understanding fully. But if you teach that God expects us to subject ourself to cruelty in a MARRIAGE no less, which is supposed to be a model to the world of Christ's relationship with His bride, then I must speak up.
This is dangerous doctrine and I believe that God is not in it.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 9:27:50 PM
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ORIGINAL: alonebutnotalone
Obviously prophet_india has never had any of those things happen to him.
Alone,
As Christians, do we allow our "bad" experience to dictate how we "LOVE", or do we do as Jesus does? Christians follow/imitate Jesus even when it is not pleasant............yes, even when it is downright intolerable according to our own judgments/feelings/reasonings.
If we are to respond to those who offend us(especially our spouses) as the world does, how are we any different? How is our "light" shining for the world to see Jesus in us?
Just 1 question - Will your light be shining once you are shot in the head, stabbed in the chest, tortured, mutilated, and otherwise abused before the abuser kills you?
If you are suggesting anyone suffer such abuse you must know another jesus besides the ONE I know.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 9:40:48 PM
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The person who divorces his/her spouse is not saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ. If the person concerned says that he or she is saved by the Blood of Jesus, it is a great deception and a lie.
So divorce is an unforgivable sin?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 9:41:42 PM
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Just 1 question - Will your light be shining once you are shot in the head, stabbed in the chest, tortured, mutilated, and otherwise abused before the abuser kills you?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 10:05:46 PM
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I'm interested in finding out the mechanics of a you-have-to-endure-everything type of marriage. I will use an example. Husband cheats on wife. Husband no intention of breaking off his relationship with his girlfriend, and he apparently had no intention of breaking up with wife, either. I'd like to ask how is it going to work for wife to continue in a marriage like that.
Husband can't afford to support two households. Is wife supposed to go to work everyday to support girlfriend's kids, as well as her own? What if husband decides that girlfriend and her kids should move into wife's house? That would save money. What if he decided that girlfriend gets the bedroom? Or does wife agree to take turns? How much does the innocent spouse have to put up with? Oh, I forgot -- the innocent spouse has to put up with torture and abuse, too. However, black eye and a few broken bones would have seriously affected wife's ability to make money to support the happy couple.
Finally, I would like to ask how wife could possibly be expected to raise decent kids under those circumstances? Isn't that at least as important as the so-called sanctity of marriage? But what do I know?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 10:20:29 PM
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Even if one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, the other spouse should keep trusting God for restoration. Even if the process of restoration fails, the offended spouse should trust in God.
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First of all you seem to focus on what you "think" is biblical laws and yet you don't believe in upholding the law of the land. The bible tells us we are to uphold the law of the land. In the case of abuse or indescribable torture there are laws against that and by keeping those laws does not go against any biblical laws, but rather it honors God's word.
If, someone assaults, abuses or tortures another they have broken laws and legal protection should be persued by the victim. Separating, seeking legal protection have nothing to do with forgiving an abuser. You forgive, but you don't stay in the abuse or torture.
God is Truth and Light! What you are promoting here is darkness and that is Satan, not God!
People promoting abuse and torture, then calling a victim evil for persuing help. Sounds like a cult.
Stone,
I don't know where you get that India said a woman should stay and be beaten. Clearly in the above he speaks of restoration..........which means that something is apart and needing to be restored. Trusting in God means walking out I Cor. 7:10-11, which means, that even if a woman does depart, she is to REMAIN UNMARRIED. God gave such a woman 2 options in such cases, the one mentioned and restoration/reconciliation. I believe that is what India meant by "trusting in God"............trust meaning that a woman trusts that as she walks in obedience, she is in the Lord's hands.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 10:25:44 PM
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I'm interested in finding out the mechanics of a you-have-to-endure-everything type of marriage. I will use an example. Husband cheats on wife. Husband no intention of breaking off his relationship with his girlfriend, and he apparently had no intention of breaking up with wife, either. I'd like to ask how is it going to work for wife to continue in a marriage like that.
Husband can't afford to support two households. Is wife supposed to go to work everyday to support girlfriend's kids, as well as her own? What if husband decides that girlfriend and her kids should move into wife's house? That would save money. What if he decided that girlfriend gets the bedroom? Or does wife agree to take turns? How much does the innocent spouse have to put up with? Oh, I forgot -- the innocent spouse has to put up with torture and abuse, too. However, black eye and a few broken bones would have seriously affected wife's ability to make money to support the happy couple.
Finally, I would like to ask how wife could possibly be expected to raise decent kids under those circumstances? Isn't that at least as important as the so-called sanctity of marriage? But what do I know?
The mom,
Noone has said that a wife has to endure threesome's, unrepentant adultery, beatings, etc. However, if a woman departs from her husband in such a case, the Lord has given instruction for those who call upon His name: "remain unmarried or be reconciled".
Those who believe the scriptures teach lifelong marriage (of first time marrieds) , believe that if a spouse gets into sin, we are to pray/intercede for them as we are joined by God as one flesh----for life. Though there may be a physical separation, we do not believe that God dissolves that bond until one of the spouses dies, then the other is free to marry one who is also free to marry.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 10:27:59 PM
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Just 1 question - Will your light be shining once you are shot in the head, stabbed in the chest, tortured, mutilated, and otherwise abused before the abuser kills you?
If you are suggesting anyone suffer such abuse you must know another jesus besides the ONE I know.
As I have stated NUMEROUS times, I do not advocate a woman staying in the home with an abuser. I DO advocate that such a woman is to seek the Lord's healing and then seek the healing of her abusive husband----from a distance. The "world's" way is to get away and forever stay away........."good riddance of bad rubbish"........... That is not the Lord's heart/way.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 10:38:00 PM
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First of all, someone on this thread has suggested that a spouse must endure those things. Second, it is just a form of legalism to think that God values the "bond" of a broken marriage to a cheating and abusive spouse more than any other consideration, including the physical and spiritual well-being of the suffering spouse. In fact, it becomes almost idol worship to suggest that the "bond" of marriage dictates God's will for the two people involved and their kids. Marriage is a trump card that even God can't affect.
Finally, I would still like an answer to my question. How does a person raise decent kids, when the answer to the turmoil in their lives is that we're married, and it doesn't matter how we treat each other. God doesn't care about the misery or safety of mom, dad, or you kids. He only cares whether or not we get a divorce.
In cases like that, I would take Martin Luther's advice to sin boldly.
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 11:45:29 PM
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When is divorce an acceptable option?
Divorce is not an acceptable option. We cannot allow the iniquity of divorce to rear its ugly head in the churches of God. Let this be an acceptable option in this world. Divorce should be resisted at all costs. Even if one spouse continues in sexual sins like adultery, the other spouse should not think in terms of divorce. Even if one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, the other spouse should keep trusting God for restoration. Even if the process of restoration fails, the offended spouse should trust in God.
If one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, then the abused spouse should run for shelter and pray for God's protection. The abused spouse should seek legal protection as well and press criminal charges if applicable.
I got to tell you some things I see posted here seem far from Godly, but rather quite disturbing.
What you say is applicable to the people of this world and not for the disciples of Jesus Christ. We have to forgive our enemies including the offending spouse who becomes inimical. We should not render evil for evil.
Fleeing from an evil spouse that is torturing you - isn't rending evil for evil! Spouses are not immune from laws of the land - which they did break when they hurt the spouse! Running for shelter and praying for protection is something I would think God would expect! Jesus took flight in certain situations as well. Just because you FLEE doesn't mean you don't forgive! One doesn't mean the other! I just don't understand why people can't grasp that concept! If you flee evil - you are stamped with 'worldly'...rubbish!
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/23/2007 11:59:17 PM
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Even if one of the spouses is subjected to indescribable torture or cruelty, the other spouse should keep trusting God for restoration. Even if the process of restoration fails, the offended spouse should trust in God.
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First of all you seem to focus on what you "think" is biblical laws and yet you don't believe in upholding the law of the land. The bible tells us we are to uphold the law of the land. In the case of abuse or indescribable torture there are laws against that and by keeping those laws does not go against any biblical laws, but rather it honors God's word.
If, someone assaults, abuses or tortures another they have broken laws and legal protection should be persued by the victim. Separating, seeking legal protection have nothing to do with forgiving an abuser. You forgive, but you don't stay in the abuse or torture.
God is Truth and Light! What you are promoting here is darkness and that is Satan, not God!
People promoting abuse and torture, then calling a victim evil for persuing help. Sounds like a cult.
Stone,
I don't know where you get that India said a woman should stay and be beaten. Clearly in the above he speaks of restoration..........which means that something is apart and needing to be restored. Trusting in God means walking out I Cor. 7:10-11, which means, that even if a woman does depart, she is to REMAIN UNMARRIED. God gave such a woman 2 options in such cases, the one mentioned and restoration/reconciliation. I believe that is what India meant by "trusting in God"............trust meaning that a woman trusts that as she walks in obedience, she is in the Lord's hands.
If you took India's entire quote instead just part of it - you would know where the idea came from! LOL that's first of all! Everyone grasped the 'restored' part believe or not! LOL it was the way it was said that was questionable!
Since we aren't speaking of remarriage in this thread which you seem to be implying with your caps of "remain unmarried"....that doesn't apply to the discussion at hand.
Fleeing and staying safe - and I know the 'odd' concept of the unrepentant sinner as spoke of in the bible can happen as well. People can trust in the Lord even when that happens - stay unmarried - and still can walk in obedience. I think that was the point the poster was getting that was clearly overridden, and diverted into other directions.
Does God hate divorce? I'm sure we all know that he does! Does God hate violence against your spouse? Hmmm. If you take the spirit of the Word you know he does! Some spouses may make changes in their lifes, so that the relationship can be restored....the odd issue is if it never does happen - which history has shown is possible - why is that so hard to accept? And why the blame for that on the other spouse, "If they had just done this, that or the other" so important? Are we all not responsible for our actions and way of life? That unrepentant person has no one to blame but themselves! When they get to heaven do you seriously think God will pat them on the head and say, "I know they didn't do what they should have...your excused!" I mean COME ON! LOL!
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/24/2007 12:27:41 AM
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Just 1 question - Will your light be shining once you are shot in the head, stabbed in the chest, tortured, mutilated, and otherwise abused before the abuser kills you?
If you are suggesting anyone suffer such abuse you must know another jesus besides the ONE I know.
As I have stated NUMEROUS times, I do not advocate a woman staying in the home with an abuser. I DO advocate that such a woman is to seek the Lord's healing and then seek the healing of her abusive husband----from a distance. The "world's" way is to get away and forever stay away........."good riddance of bad rubbish"........... That is not the Lord's heart/way.
We aren't talking from the 'world's way' here tho!
How are you to SEEK your spouses healing?
There are success stories with abusive situations. You know what MOST people tend to overlook? It took YEARS to happen..... the pressure is always on the fearful one (in other words afraid of their spouse in the sense of trust) failed - the other way around SUCCEEDED. The pressure on the abusive one - or allowing them to fall as much as they need to - were the successful ones that finally knew that 'others' not just the spouses would be there waiting for them.
Were the spouses always there at the end? No. We won't go there because that is NOT the theme of this thread! That is also called consequence for your actions. We all have to deal with that - good or bad! People tend to focus to much on the abused party, and they truly need to place that concentration on the abuser! I mean the are truly the ones in HELL on earth! People that do this are truly broken...pressuring and guilting the other party isn't going to fix that. Its NOT their burden to bare, so STOP handing it to them!
The abused spouse and anyone else can't 'seek' healing for the abuser! They must do that themselves! "Seeking" for others don't make them FIND! They must SEEK for themselves! They dont' grasp the 'worth it' part otherwise!
The abuser needs to seek their own healing, and their NEED for it! Their entitlement issues are in the way most of the time. LOL telling the spouse that left to figure out a way around that...is something they did for YEARS! Their out now....it didn't work! LOL stop beating the dead horse!
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/24/2007 12:56:11 AM
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Obviously prophet_india has never had any of those things happen to him.
It is not something that should happen to me or someone else. What are the Christian virtues and characteristics? What is righteousness? What does bearing our cross mean to us? Of course, the absued spouse is free to live separately from the cruel husband/cruel wife. But he/she should not seek divorce. Divorce is not the solution. We have to follow the footsteps of our Master in suffering. We have to suffer in our flesh. Paul said that he suffered in his body and filled up that "which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in his flesh for His body's sake, which is the church" (Col.1:24).
If someone has married a person of his/her own choice and if that person has turned out to be cruel after the marriage, who is responsible for this?
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RE: Divorce - One Stop Thread - 8/24/2007 1:15:28 AM
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hnt
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If someone has married a person of his/her own choice and if that person has turned out to be cruel after the marriage, who is responsible for this?
Nice blame shifting! Is that the answer?
YES we must lay in the bed we layed in to a point, but if you didn't have the tools to make a better decision you must be burden with someone else's sin forever?
We are a new person in Christ, and that means we change! We see things different, we live different, we believe different. We turn from certain ways, etc. Does our pastor or Lord rub our nose in the fact we didn't make that decision earlier? The Pastor might, but the Lord doesn't! Not the one that I read about in the bible and pray to!
Quite frankly the cruel spouse is responsible! That's who! No one else should be responsible for another's sin! Attempting to hand it over is sin as well!
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