|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 3:09:12 PM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
I really want to lose weight, but:
1. I have FMS and RA and can not do any exercise that will add stress to my joints.
2. Ever since I had my gallbladder removed 9 years ago, I can not tolerate raw foods like apples, salads, carrots, etc.
3. Due to #2, I also can not tolerate orange juice or anything citrus or with acid such as tomatoes.
4. I do not like meat and could not possibly swallow fish, chicken, etc.
5. It seems like the only food that I can successfully eat with my stomach problems are high in carbs.
6. I absolutely crave sweets. I can do without, but I am miserable.
7. I can not exercise in a pool because I can not afford the fees and I do not have medical insurance to pay if a Doctor ordered water physical therapy/exercise.
8. I have hypothyroidism and my energy level is very low.
These are NOT excuses. I really would like to lose weight. I used to stay between a size 8, 10 or 12. Now I am a size 18/20. I am 5'8", weight 225 lbs, and a 61 year old female.
Any suggestions on how to lose weight?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 3:18:31 PM
|
|
|
agapetos
Posts: 8154
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: This side of the lil duck pond!
Status: offline
|
What's FMS?
quote:
I can not tolerate raw foods like apples, salads, carrots, etc. Can you eat them cooked?
quote:
I do not like meat and could not possibly swallow fish, chicken, etc. What about tofu?quote:
I have hypothyroidism and my energy level is very low. Is it being treated properly (ie are you are on the right doseage and having regular blood tests?).
_____________________________
My cat thinks of me as warm-blooded furniture!
My blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 3:20:18 PM
|
|
|
MrsTracy72
Posts: 1666
Joined: 2/28/2007
Status: offline
|
You said you don't have insurance, but with all your health problems, you must be seeing a doc. What do they say? I know that if you go to the YMCA, they do have pmt. plans that go by income and if you have no income, you may qualify for a free membership. When I first was divorced, my membership was only 11.00 a month until I got back on my feet.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 4:45:37 PM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
FMS is Fibromyalgia. My Doctor says that I have the worst case that he has ever seen.
Yes, I can eat cooked veggies, but of course, I want to season them with butter and salt. Guess I could stop doing that. I have heard that there is a shake-on butter replacement that doesn't have any calories. Has anyone tried that?
I am too fat to go to a public swimming pool. Sorry, but I just couldn't do it.
My Doctor mentioned that one of the prescriptions that used to be the famous Phen-Fen is still available, but it has side effects.
I have heard that Alli has a bad side effect of "anal leakage". Sounds pretty bad. Has anyone tried it?
The last time that my Doctor checked my thyroid blood level (about six months ago) he said it was normal.
I know that my metabolism is very slow.
Has anyone used Slim Fast consistently and lost weight succesfully? I'm thinking of drinking it about 3-4 times a day and then eating a bunch of cooked veggies. But since I don't eat meat, I need milk, cheese and eggs to get my protein.
I read where Oprah is up to 200 lbs. again and she is having a week of shows beginning next week on how she plans to lose weight. But goodness! She can afford anything! A personal trainer, a cook, and so on. If she still has problems with her weight, what are normal people like me supposed to do?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 4:48:28 PM
|
|
|
Psalms274
Posts: 3152
Status: offline
|
1. I have FMS and RA and can not do any exercise that will add stress to my joints. Both Rheumatoid Arthritis and Fibromyalgia Syndrome require the patient to have some type of exercise routine. It actually lessens the severity of both diseases. You should also be able to qualify for disability with these two diagnosis's, which would enable you to get the care you and referrals you need. Your doctor can refer you to a trainer who can address these problems as they develop and exercise regiment that you can do safely. Medicaid and medicare can cover the cost for a trainer with the correct credentials when referred by your physician. The first thing you need to do is contact the social services in your are and get disability, which will get you medicaid.
2. Ever since I had my gallbladder removed 9 years ago, I can not tolerate raw foods like apples, salads, carrots, etc. Gall bladder surgery would not effect your ability to tolerate the foods you have listed. Your gall bladder stores bile which aids in the digestions of fats. Most people will have difficulty tolerating an excess of fatty foods after gall bladder surgery. You may need to check if you have another digestive disorder. You can still eat cooked fruits and vegetables. After you get medicaid you can have your doctor refer you to a dietitian. Many trainers who work with special populations are also certified in nutrition and can work with you and your doctor to address these issues.
3. Due to #2, I also can not tolerate orange juice or anything citrus or with acid such as tomatoes. See above
4. I do not like meat and could not possibly swallow fish, chicken, etc. see # two
5. It seems like the only food that I can successfully eat with my stomach problems are high in carbs. see #2
6. I absolutely crave sweets. I can do without, but I am miserable. This is something you will have to just do. After three weeks of following a healthier diet, you will find the cravings will diminish. (# two can help too!)
7. I can not exercise in a pool because I can not afford the fees and I do not have medical insurance to pay if a Doctor ordered water physical therapy/exercise. Again, apply for disability and medicaid and this will be covered.
8. I have hypothyroidism and my energy level is very low. You need to be on thyroid replacement therapy such as Levothyroxine or liothyronine, depending on how much thyroid function you have. Your doctor can prescribe the correct replacement, and it will bring up your energy level back to normal.
There is not anything on your list of I can't that cannot be turned into an I can. Please go to the Social Services agency in your area and ask how to apply to disability in your area. Get a family member or friend to assist you in the process. If you do not have anyone, either your church or the local shelters in the area have personal that can point you in the right direction. (The shelters will have case managers that will know who you need to contact.) Be prepared to be denied for disability, they almost always deny applications and will require you to appeal the process, even for those with no limbs! (The bureaucracy of the government is rather goofy!)
Blessings!
_____________________________
I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ.
http://piswa.blogspot.com/
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 4:54:33 PM
|
|
|
Psalms274
Posts: 3152
Status: offline
|
quote:
The last time that my Doctor checked my thyroid blood level (about six months ago) he said it was normal.
If your metabolism has slowed and there is not a thyroid problem, it is more than likely due to a poor diet and a lack of exercise. Believe it or not, exercise will actually increase your energy level when done properly. A poor diet and immobile lifestyle will exasperate the diseases you already have and it can contribute to the development of other disease processes that will slow you down. So just start moving until you are able to get the assistance you need.
_____________________________
I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ.
http://piswa.blogspot.com/
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 5:29:23 PM
|
|
|
his_chosen
Posts: 1338
Joined: 4/11/2005
Status: offline
|
Too fat to go the pool is an excuse. Did you wait until you were "perfect" before going to church? A gym is a place to go to workout. Noone cares why you are there/what you look like/etc. As long as you are working out you are welcome. Now, if you go and just sit there and prevent someone else from working out, that's an issue. But, if you are doing a lap, resting at the wall, doing a lap, that's FINE!!! Perhaps find a class. My gym offers "Silver Sneakers" water aerobics classes. You go and do what you can!
I have used SlimFast. Their diet is way too restrictive. Currently, I will drink a SlimFast or Ensure on the way to the gym before a workout. I will then have a "second breakfast" when I get home.
As far as sweets. I struggle with that, too. The key is to plan healthy snacks. On days that I work out (6days a week--I'm a triathlete) I will have a snack on the way to the gym. Then, I have a small breakfast when I get home (bagel, cup of coffee). I have a decent lunch (usually leftovers). Then, a mid afternoon snack (fruit or yogurt). If I skip this snack, I will end up binging on sweets. Then dinner. Nothing to eat after dinner, although I try to have about 16oz or so of water/Crystal Light. I am also drinking water/Crystal Light through out the day.
_____________________________
You have a choice. You can throw in the towel or you can use it to wipe the sweat off your face.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 5:50:54 PM
|
|
|
Miss Giggles
Posts: 4737
Joined: 4/18/2005
From: MI
Status: online
|
I second the dietitian
Can you walk slowly on a treadmill or use a recumbent bike? They are all on sale now or you could look on craiglist for used ones.
You don't have to go to a fancy public gym. If you don't feel comfortable there are plenty of physical therapy places that let people use the gym equipment and the pool.
Also community / recreation centers have open swim times as do most of the high schools when the swim team is not using them.
If you feel comfortable going to the senior citizens center they have low impact exercise classes.
Slim Fast is not filling and the ones and could cause gas and bloating issues, esp since they added fiber to them. Not worth the discomfort.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 6:57:52 PM
|
|
|
agapetos
Posts: 8154
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: This side of the lil duck pond!
Status: offline
|
quote:
I am too fat to go to a public swimming pool. Sorry, but I just couldn't do it. You said in your first post that you weren't making excuses. Now that may be true for everything else, but you saying that you are too fat to go to a public swimming pool IS an excuse.
quote:
Yes, I can eat cooked veggies, but of course, I want to season them with butter and salt. Guess I could stop doing that. I have heard that there is a shake-on butter replacement that doesn't have any calories. Has anyone tried that? Or you could season them with herbs, spices and garlic.
quote:
I second the dietitian Me too. I also agree with what has been said about slim fast. It's not something that I'd recommend for anyone in reality ~ certainly not anyone who needs to lose weight. Added to which, it's pretty expensive and if you can afford to buy that, you can probably afford to go to the gym/pool.
Hypothyroidism can make you very tired but regular exercise can help increase energy levels (yeah, I konw, sounds backwards) so is worth doing, even if it's just walking.
_____________________________
My cat thinks of me as warm-blooded furniture!
My blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 7:34:45 PM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
quote:
1. I have FMS and RA and can not do any exercise that will add stress to my joints. Both Rheumatoid Arthritis and Fibromyalgia Syndrome require the patient to have some type of exercise routine. It actually lessens the severity of both diseases. You should also be able to qualify for disability with these two diagnosis's, which would enable you to get the care you and referrals you need. Your doctor can refer you to a trainer who can address these problems as they develop and exercise regiment that you can do safely. Medicaid and medicare can cover the cost for a trainer with the correct credentials when referred by your physician. The first thing you need to do is contact the social services in your are and get disability, which will get you medicaid.
2. Ever since I had my gallbladder removed 9 years ago, I can not tolerate raw foods like apples, salads, carrots, etc. Gall bladder surgery would not effect your ability to tolerate the foods you have listed. Your gall bladder stores bile which aids in the digestions of fats. Most people will have difficulty tolerating an excess of fatty foods after gall bladder surgery. You may need to check if you have another digestive disorder. You can still eat cooked fruits and vegetables. After you get medicaid you can have your doctor refer you to a dietitian. Many trainers who work with special populations are also certified in nutrition and can work with you and your doctor to address these issues.
3. Due to #2, I also can not tolerate orange juice or anything citrus or with acid such as tomatoes. See above
4. I do not like meat and could not possibly swallow fish, chicken, etc. see # two
5. It seems like the only food that I can successfully eat with my stomach problems are high in carbs. see #2
6. I absolutely crave sweets. I can do without, but I am miserable. This is something you will have to just do. After three weeks of following a healthier diet, you will find the cravings will diminish. (# two can help too!)
7. I can not exercise in a pool because I can not afford the fees and I do not have medical insurance to pay if a Doctor ordered water physical therapy/exercise. Again, apply for disability and medicaid and this will be covered.
8. I have hypothyroidism and my energy level is very low. You need to be on thyroid replacement therapy such as Levothyroxine or liothyronine, depending on how much thyroid function you have. Your doctor can prescribe the correct replacement, and it will bring up your energy level back to normal.
There is not anything on your list of I can't that cannot be turned into an I can. Please go to the Social Services agency in your area and ask how to apply to disability in your area. Get a family member or friend to assist you in the process. If you do not have anyone, either your church or the local shelters in the area have personal that can point you in the right direction. (The shelters will have case managers that will know who you need to contact.) Be prepared to be denied for disability, they almost always deny applications and will require you to appeal the process, even for those with no limbs! (The bureaucracy of the government is rather goofy!)
1. My Doctor told me not to do any exercises that would put stress or sudden added weight to my joints - especially to my knees. I have tried to walk since I used to walk 4 miles every morning before I went to work, and I can not do it. I am so exhausted by the time that I walk 1/4 mile, I have to lay down. One of the symptoms of FMS is also chronic exhaustion. I am not a lazy person. I have worked 40 years and was very distressed that I had to quit a great job.
I am on Disability. It will be two years in April and that is when I will be able to get on Medicare. I tried to get it before and was told that I had to wait two years. In Tennessee, Medicaid is called TennCare, but I can not get on it because my income (disability) is too much. Go figure! Also, my case worked told me that if I were an illegal alien who was pregnant, I could get TennCare and my child would receive it for five years. Not that this information has anything to do with my situation, but I feel that I worked for 40 years, paid in taxes, just to support illegal aliens.
When I get on Medicare in April, I will only be able to afford Part A, which covers hospital care. Part B is for all other medical care (except prescriptions) and I can not afford the premiums plus continue to pay cash for my prescriptions. If I buy a supplement to Medicare to cover prescriptions, I could not afford the premiums, plus deductible and co-pays.
More personal business than I care to share, but since I am asking for help, the help needs to fit my situation.
2. Maybe the removal of my gallbladder shouldn't have effected my stomach in this way, but it did. I saw a Gastroenterologist many times during the first two years. I had the scope down my throat twice, plus a colonoscopy. The Doctor said that I have "bile splashback". In other words all the bile goes back into my stomach instead of down into my digestive system. He said that there were puddles of bile in my stomach and it was already eating at my esophageus. I take two Nexium a day and still cannot eat the foods that I mentioned. I get diarhea until I pass out if I just eat a salad.
For the rest of your suggestions: I absolutely will NOT go to a public pool as big as I am. PERIOD! No need of suggesting it. It is out of the question.
I take Levothyroxm (sp?) or Synthroid and the Doctor says my Thyroid level is normal.
I can lay off the sweets. It will be hard, but I can do it. I can eat Jello, skim milk, non-sugar cereal, unsweetened apple sauce, hard cheese, and cooked veggies. Maybe that will work.
I have to pay cash when I see my Doctor, but I go on the 7th and I am going to ask him what he thinks about me getting an ellyptical stationery bike.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 7:44:03 PM
|
|
|
agapetos
Posts: 8154
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: This side of the lil duck pond!
Status: offline
|
quote:
My Doctor told me not to do any exercises that would put stress or sudden added weight to my joints - especially to my knees. Then find out from your doctor what exercises you can do.
quote:
Also, my case worked told me that if I were an illegal alien who was pregnant, I could get TennCare and my child would receive it for five years. Not that this information has anything to do with my situation, but I feel that I worked for 40 years, paid in taxes, just to support illegal aliens. Your case worker was VERY wrong to say this.
quote:
For the rest of your suggestions: I absolutely will NOT go to a public pool as big as I am. PERIOD! No need of suggesting it. It is out of the question. That's your decision, but it's a pity that you're ruling out the best kind of exercise for your health for no good reason.
_____________________________
My cat thinks of me as warm-blooded furniture!
My blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 8:25:03 PM
|
|
|
MrsTracy72
Posts: 1666
Joined: 2/28/2007
Status: offline
|
If you can join a YMCA or do a local water aerobics class with your city, usually, the women there are older and overweight. So if that is your hangup about a public pool, those classes are usually held during the day when the pools are not in use by people who work or go to school full time. I know this because after I had my son, that is when I took classes because I was afraid to go out in a swimsuit in public.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 8:35:22 PM
|
|
|
blueeyedgirl2
Posts: 1775
Joined: 8/31/2008
From: quote in siggy by George MacDonald
Status: offline
|
You do have a lot of barriers making losing weight more difficult, BUT there's always things you can do. Believe me, this is a good reminder for me as well because although I know what to do I have a hard time following through.
I have had the best success when I've journaled what I eat. Once you put it down on paper it's easy to see where you are going wrong. I recently heard that to lose a pound a week you just need to cut back 500 calories a day. It was suggested to cut 250 calories and then burn 250 calories through exercise.
If you have a hard time leaving the house to exercise, you might enjoy Leslie Sansone's walking workouts. They start at one mile, but you could start by doing half of it.
All it takes is burning more calories than you are eating. A good site to help track your daily intake of food is calorieking.com.
Hope something here is helpful to you! You can do it! I'm convinced it's more of a mind battle than anything else.
_____________________________
"I would rather be what God chose to make me than the most glorious creature I could think of; for to have been thought about, born in God's thought, and then made by God is the dearest, grandest, and most precious thing in all thinking."
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 8:48:01 PM
|
|
|
Psalms274
Posts: 3152
Status: offline
|
quote:
1. My Doctor told me not to do any exercises that would put stress or sudden added weight to my joints - especially to my knees. I have tried to walk since I used to walk 4 miles every morning before I went to work, and I can not do it. I am so exhausted by the time that I walk 1/4 mile, I have to lay down. One of the symptoms of FMS is also chronic exhaustion. I am not a lazy person. I have worked 40 years and was very distressed that I had to quit a great job.
I would expect walking to be rough on your joints because of the excess weight. Using a recumbent bike, elliptical machine, swimming, water aerobics are all options to get your heart rate up. Ask your doctor to look into getting a referral to a trainer. I know Medicaid will cover the cost for a NSCA Certified trainer (because I am one  ) and they will be able to guide you in a routine that will work with your special needs.
quote:
I take Levothyroxm (sp?) or Synthroid and the Doctor says my Thyroid level is normal.
Your thyroid levels being normal are the results of your meds ... it means their doing there job! 
Be persistent with your doctor about the digestive issues ... a salad shouldn't cause the distress it is causing you, and a gall bladder surgery would not be the cause, which means something else is going on. It is not uncommon to have some dietary problems with high fat or fried foods as well as whole grain breads and cereals, nuts, seeds or gas producing vegetables (baked beans) from the cabbage family (broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage or cauliflower) after gall bladder removal, but there are plenty of other types of foods that would work. Find some spices you like besides the salt an butter (I'm surprise the butter is not giving you stress!) But things like leafy greens should not cause problems.
As far as the Ali ... what that does is limit your body's ability to digest fats. So if you have too much you can end up with explosive diarrhea!  I suspect after a gallbladder surgery the side effects since your body no longer has a place to store bile ... that's probably why it's spilling over into your tummy.
quote:
I can lay off the sweets. It will be hard, but I can do it. I can eat sugar free Jello , skim milk, non-sugar cereal, unsweetened apple sauce, hard cheese, and cooked veggies. Maybe that will work.
It could work! You'll be surprised at how you will adjust to the change after a few weeks. For a treat you can try baking your apples with a little cinnamon and a splash of splenda ... very tasty!
Here's another you could try for those times you are craving the sweets:
6 pieces of fruit (pears, apples, nectarines, peaches, plums, apricots, cherries, grapes - whatever your favourites are), sliced
¼ cup blanched almonds
2 cinnamon sticks
peel of 1 orange
juice of 1 orange
2 tablespoons splenda
Preheat the oven to 180°C/350°F.
Place the sliced fruit in a baking tray, add the nuts, cinnamon sticks, orange peel and juice. Mix roughly. Sprinkle with the splenda.
Bake for about 20 minutes. Enjoy it hot or cold.
quote:
For the rest of your suggestions: I absolutely will NOT go to a public pool as big as I am. PERIOD! No need of suggesting it. It is out of the question.
I can understand not wanting to be seen in a bathing suit. My mom has had advanced Rheumatoid Arthritis for over 40 years, and is very deformed from the disease. She finally got over her fear of being seen in public in a bathing suit and has been doing water aerobics three times a week. She says when is a new person, it has helped tremendously with her arthritis. Before starting the water aerobics she had a terrible time anytime she had to travel. A plane ride meant being in a wheelchair because of the extreme pain for a few weeks afterwards, and my mom is a tough monkey ... she hates those things. She took a trip with no problems at all after she started the water aerobics ... so just pray about it. It may be a good option. I know it is hard, we so often are so concerned about what others think ... and people can be quite cruel. But the payoff may be worth it. Mom has made lots of wonderful friends at the pool. She'll be 72 this April.
Many Blessings ... and have a wonderful Sunday!
_____________________________
I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ.
http://piswa.blogspot.com/
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/3/2009 11:03:00 PM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
I appreciate all the good suggestions. A couple of people missed the part where I told that in Tennessee, Medicaid is called Tenncare and it is closed to people like me. The case worker was correct with the information that she gave me. It is a fact that I have to wait two years after I was approved for Disability before I could get on Medicare. Even if I had the money, I can not get on a private insurance because I have had cancer in the past. I am past the five years and I am considered cured, but insurance still will not cover me.
I will not go to a swimming pool because I am so fat. I can't even stand to look at myself so I will not allow others to see me. If this is the best exercise for me and my health situation, then I would rather hurt. That's how bad I would hate to go to a swimming pool. You just need to understand my feelings and not argue with them.
Since I can not eat raw fruits such as apples, I could bake them. I never thought of that. That's a good suggestion.
I saw a Gastroenterologist for two years after my surgery and had all kinds of tests run. The Doctor told me the excess bile is the reason that I can not eat raw foods. I never had that problem before my gallbladder messed up. It may not make sense, but I know what I could eat before the surgery and what I can not eat since the surgery. Believe, I would love to be able to eat a salad. I believe that I could eat a whole head of lettuce at one time, I miss it so much.
The reason I wrote this OP was to receive suggestions for a diet taking into consideration all of my health and stomach problems. Not to have people tell me that I don't really have the health problems that I described.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/4/2009 2:33:45 AM
|
|
|
PinkCarnations
Posts: 8274
Joined: 9/28/2007
Status: offline
|
Hi Lloyd-and-Me and welcome to the boards!
In 2000 I had my gall bladder removed. I noticed that it never corrected my problem with diarrhea or acid reflux. A friend of mine suggested that I eat a serving of yogurt a day. That got rid of both problems and it's low-cal, low-fat and you can even find sugar-free. It also tastes good and is good for you.
_____________________________
With faith all things are possible....
.... not easy! Roberta
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/4/2009 10:37:29 AM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
Thanks Roberta.
I went to a "doctor" one time and she wanted to put me on some kind of diet that offered very little to eat (for me), plus I would have taken an antibiotic and a couple other pills. She said that the first week or so would be miserable with headaches, mood swings, and other side effects, but that it was well worth it. She made all her staff go on it. Supposedly it cleans out all the "bad" bacteria in a person's intestines. We are supposed to have "good" bacteria but sometimes we get too much of the "bad" bacteria. She said her diet was the only way to get rid of the bad bacteria.
I didn't go on it after talking to a couple of her receptionists. Plus I would have starved! I am sure that I would have had headaches and been moody on that diet!
The point is - I have heard that Yogurt helps with the "good" bacteria. Maybe I will try some. I don't like the taste at all because it is so sour, but maybe the kind with fruit would taste better. I'll buy some the next time that I go to the grocery store.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/4/2009 2:33:55 PM
|
|
|
agapetos
Posts: 8154
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: This side of the lil duck pond!
Status: offline
|
quote:
The reason I wrote this OP was to receive suggestions for a diet taking into consideration all of my health and stomach problems. Not to have people tell me that I don't really have the health problems that I described. I haven't read that anyone has told you that you don't have the health problems you do.
quote:
The point is - I have heard that Yogurt helps with the "good" bacteria. Maybe I will try some. I don't like the taste at all because it is so sour, but maybe the kind with fruit would taste better. I'll buy some the next time that I go to the grocery store. Yougurt can help restore levels of good bacteria in your system. You may also want to think about trying acidophilus tablets.
I don't know whether the doctor you saw (who wanted to put you on a diet) was a medical doctor or some other sort of doctor. I do think (again) that is worth you requesting a referal to a dietitian, given your digestive problems they may be able to offer you more help.
quote:
I will not go to a swimming pool because I am so fat. I can't even stand to look at myself so I will not allow others to see me. If this is the best exercise for me and my health situation, then I would rather hurt. That's how bad I would hate to go to a swimming pool. You just need to understand my feelings and not argue with them. Oh I do understand your feelings. I felt the same way some years back about going to the gym. I finally swallowed my pride and discovered that instead of people 'looking' at me, they were doing whatever they'd gone to the gym to do. Over time, as I got to know people, we were able to encourage, support and complement each other on our achievements. I'm saving to get back there, because like you, I don't get help ~ but it is my goal for this year that I'll get back.
< Message edited by agapetos -- 1/4/2009 3:11:31 PM >
_____________________________
My cat thinks of me as warm-blooded furniture!
My blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/4/2009 3:58:26 PM
|
|
|
agapetos
Posts: 8154
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: This side of the lil duck pond!
Status: offline
|
Something else for you to consider
Think about going into a local health store and seeing if they can give you advice on different grains you can get that you may be able to eat without discomfort. Grains such as barley, amaranth, quinoa, buckwheat, millet, oats and spelt.
You could also try to include pulses ~ lentils and beans into your diet.
_____________________________
My cat thinks of me as warm-blooded furniture!
My blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/5/2009 10:52:16 AM
|
|
|
PinkCarnations
Posts: 8274
Joined: 9/28/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Lloyd-and-Me
I don't like the taste at all because it is so sour, but maybe the kind with fruit would taste better. I'll buy some the next time that I go to the grocery store.
I don't like the plain ones either.
_____________________________
With faith all things are possible....
.... not easy! Roberta
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/5/2009 11:35:21 AM
|
|
|
csl7037
Posts: 2139
Joined: 3/24/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
quote:
The last time that my Doctor checked my thyroid blood level (about six months ago) he said it was normal.
If your metabolism has slowed and there is not a thyroid problem, it is more than likely due to a poor diet and a lack of exercise. Believe it or not, exercise will actually increase your energy level when done properly. A poor diet and immobile lifestyle will exasperate the diseases you already have and it can contribute to the development of other disease processes that will slow you down. So just start moving until you are able to get the assistance you need.
With all your current problems, I think that should be all the more reason to get serious! I know you're frustrated and all the misinformation out there, I think, should be criminal. But you simply cannot afford to continue with the kind of diet you've been on. It will absolutely compound your problems if you don't learn what's really necessary for a healthy lifestyle and figure out what will work for you...
quote:
ORIGINAL: MrsTracy72
If you can join a YMCA or do a local water aerobics class with your city, usually, the women there are older and overweight. So if that is your hangup about a public pool, those classes are usually held during the day when the pools are not in use by people who work or go to school full time. I know this because after I had my son, that is when I took classes because I was afraid to go out in a swimsuit in public.
quote:
ORIGINAL: Lloyd-and-Me
I will not go to a swimming pool because I am so fat. I can't even stand to look at myself so I will not allow others to see me. If this is the best exercise for me and my health situation, then I would rather hurt. That's how bad I would hate to go to a swimming pool. You just need to understand my feelings and not argue with them.
I did a water aerobics class when I was pregnant - like the last trimester. I was huge and I just felt so horrible. I had awful sciatic pain and it helped tremendously. It also just helped my mood a great deal. Trust me, I was never a "cute" pregnant lady; that was not how I wanted to be seen in public! Can I just suggest you go once and watch or just peek in on a water aerobics class - you might not feel so bad.
Also, what about yoga? Yes, you'd feel completely silly - everyone feels silly doing yoga in the beginning (some of it always feels silly). I'm a yoga instructor and firmly believe EVERYONE should be doing yoga as we age - it's relatively harmless, yes, you can get injured if your instructor doesn't know what they're doing or you're not careful, it's not foolproof...but it's totally impact free.
Walking can be hard, yes. Get good shoes (expensive I know) and do it for the fresh air, if nothing else...just what you can do. If 1/4 mile exhausts you, come home and take a nap. Next month, make your goal not to take the nap. The following month, make your goal 1/2 mile/day (maybe with a nap ;-) ) and so on. Baby steps.
quote:
ORIGINAL: blueeyedgirl2
All it takes is burning more calories than you are eating. A good site to help track your daily intake of food is calorieking.com.
That's not necessarily a good policy. The OP's doesnt' really have the luxury of simplicity. With her other medical issues, current lack of energy (probably for several reasons), going restrictive, cutting 500 calories, could be disasterous! Not to mention, she probably couldn't stick to it - because she'd been eating almost nothing or at least feel like it. All calories are not created equal. Bottom line, you've got to find some protein you can tolerate (poultry is best - lean protein) - cottage cheese is even really good for protein, check the label on the yogurt for protein too...can you eat eggs? Then you've got to get some green veggies - this is SO hard for me too. Experiment with things, take it slow, and in the mean time, get a really good supplement to make up the difference. You're going to waste away (nutritionally if not physically) without nutrients. And then learn about good carbs...can you eat a baked sweet potato? Did you say rice is hard on you? (you need brown rice) What about oats? You'd be amazed the difference in your energy level and mood on "good carbs" rather than empty junk carbs. And you could eat twice as much "clean" food and probably drop drastic weight (at least in the beginning).
BTW - if you think you don't like cottage cheese or oats, here's a suggestion. You'd be amazed what I can do with cottage cheese and oats!! But my favorite, my breakfast every morning (and sometimes afternoon snack) is Protein pancakes...2 egg whites, 2 T LF cottage cheese, and 4-5T regular oats (not instant) - mixed in a blender (my Magic Bullet is perfect for this small amount) - voila! Pancake batter! Spray butter and a little powdered sugar - sweet tooth is happy! And that keeps me going for hours! Just an example.
I also love cottage cheese with pineapple - but you mentioned problems with citrus...try a sliced banana in cottage cheese with just a little maple syrup - tastes like bananas foster! Sweet tooth happy again. These are two staples for me from the Eating for Life cookbook. Good stuff.
quote:
The reason I wrote this OP was to receive suggestions for a diet taking into consideration all of my health and stomach problems. Not to have people tell me that I don't really have the health problems that I described.
I don't think anyone's telling you you don't have these problems, just that these problems aren't insurmountable. Frankly, you're getting lots of great FREE advice. Frankly, even in some of what I'm reading here, as is to be expected, you've got to take some things with a grain of salt (please don't do diet drugs or anything crazy), but re-read everything Psalm 274 has written - she really should be charging for such advice! No, literally, that's her job.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/5/2009 10:26:24 PM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
When I was first diagnosed with FMS, and before I had to totally quit my job and apply for Disability, I went to a swimming pool for therapy ordered by my Doctor. I went for three weeks, every other day. I absolutely hated it. I hated getting ready and driving there when I really felt like staying in bed. I hated not being able to take my pain meds because I was going to drive. I hated changing clothes and putting on my swim suit. I hated getting in the water in front of complete strangers - and I weighed 50 pounds less than I do now. I hated getting out of the pool for the same reason. I hated taking a shower in a stall where only God knew who had been in it last. I hated having to change back into my clothes with a half wet body. I hated having to drive back home. The days that I went there were totally ruined by that experience.
So I do know how that is and I would never do it again.
I have a very limited list of foods that I can eat without getting a belly ache and/or having diarhrea. I could post my list, but I think that you all have the picture. Everything that I eat that doesn't hurt my stomach is full of carbs - like bread, pasta, cereal, etc. I also can eat cheese, drink milk and eat a small amount of scrambled eggs, although they hurt my stomach sometimes.
I can not eat bananas. BIG belly ache. I like oatmeal, but of course I want sugar and butter in it. :o) I can not eat rice. I thought that I would be able to, but when I tried, I got a belly ache. Even rice cakes bother me.
I miss spegetti, chili, tacos, meatloaf (I could manage ground beef if there was enough spices in it). I miss salads something awful. I miss snacking on raw carrots and apples. I miss my glass of orange juice every morning. It even bothers me to eat homemade vegetables soup because of the tomatoes and corn.
I tell you - it is miserable to be this limited when it comes to eating.
A good part of my medications have side effects of: increased appetite, water retention, and weight gain. Gee, thanks Doc!! :o)
Yet still I want to figure out how to lose some weight - actually about 75 lbs. I go to my orthopedic doctor tomorrow and hope that he gives me enough time to discuss what type of exercise that I can do.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/5/2009 10:46:37 PM
|
|
|
csl7037
Posts: 2139
Joined: 3/24/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Lloyd-and-Me
I have a very limited list of foods that I can eat without getting a belly ache and/or having diarhrea. I could post my list, but I think that you all have the picture. Everything that I eat that doesn't hurt my stomach is full of carbs - like bread, pasta, cereal, etc. I also can eat cheese, drink milk and eat a small amount of scrambled eggs, although they hurt my stomach sometimes.
I can not eat bananas. BIG belly ache. I like oatmeal, but of course I want sugar and butter in it. :o) I can not eat rice. I thought that I would be able to, but when I tried, I got a belly ache. Even rice cakes bother me.
What do you think causes all of that? You can't live like that. Sadly, I don't think you can lose weight like that - at least not in a healthy way...you can't live in a healthy way avoiding so much of what you need. You poor thing. You've got to figure this out and find a doctor who'll get something straightened out and alleviate some of this.
In the mean time, maybe if you did list the foods you CAN eat, we may have some suggestions - my pancakes, for instance - only three ingredients, would that work for a healthy, substantial meal?
Scrambled eggs - could egg whites be easier to handle?
oatmeal - spray butter and a drop of honey? cinnamon? vanilla? Oatmeal is so good for you.
bread - what about something like Ezekiel bread? doughey white breads just aren't any good.
rice - white or brown? does brown rice cause problems?
We've got to be able to come up with some things that will work. But, long term, you've got to figure this out and find something that will let you get some healthy food in you without torturing you.
...going out on a limb here. Have you ever explored spiritual causes or roots to your illnesses, especially the stomach issues? I have several friends deeply involved in "deliverance ministry" and will go on record as saying I think that goes way too far and creates a theology that gets off quickly into the ridiculous. But I do think there's a kernel of truth that it is based upon and there can be spiritual roots to illnesses...sin (yours or someone close), oppression (unforgiveness, fear, bitterness, anxiety, etc), and other things can be an open door for the enemy to come in and create something that will keep us defeated. Just something that occured to me based only on the extremity of your stomach problems. Just something to think and pray about...
Acts 10:37, 38: That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Personally, I think sickness is rarely ALL physical or ALL spiritual - and most people try to stick to one side or the other...most of the time, I think we should be looking at it from both sides.
< Message edited by csl7037 -- 1/5/2009 10:57:52 PM >
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/6/2009 9:15:45 AM
|
|
|
WhiteRoseBlessings
Posts: 19193
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: Here . . . but subject to change; stay tuned
Status: offline
|
Lloyd-and-Me, Welcome to the threads!
Since you have made your feelings clear about what you won't do, I will respect that and not argue with you about it.
However, now I'm not sure what I can tell you that will be an encouragement to you.
I will tell you, that for me, personally . . .
I'm the same size as you, except 4" shorter . . . so, in reality, I'm, uhm, plumper than you. 
I'm also, at this very moment, waiting on my recently-ordered swimsuit to arrive any day now so I can begin swimming. Am I a bit self-conscious about going to the pool? Yes, I am. But several years ago, I discovered swimming and realized, for me, what a great exercise it was. I've been telling myself for years now that I needed to get back in the pool, and a few months ago, I promised myself that after I moved and took care of a few things, I was going to order a swimsuit before the end of 2008.
I live in a mountain town, where, in the past few days, it has been between -14° and -30°. Yesterday, it was +15°, but it was slick-icy and snowing all day long. We will have this kind of weather for at least the next 3 months; and some kind of winter weather for the next 5 months.
I tell you this because I am a pedestrian; so the only way I will be able to get to the pool is by walking to it . . . I could take the bus, but that wouldn't make sense because I live about a 10 minute walk from the pool.
My point being is I will do the things that are priority in my life, regardless of any roadblocks or hinderances. So will most other people.
Those things that are not priority, I will find reasons not do them. So will most other people.
I am currently around 115 pounds lighter than my heaviest weight, and 14 sizes smaller than my biggest sizes.
The reason why I lost the very first pound and the very first size is because eventually, I took my reasons for not doing so away, and made doing so a priority in my life.
What I would truly encourage you to do is to figure out what is a priority in your life, and then find a way to do it; regardless of what "it" is and regardless of any hinderances.
You've made a good start; you've come here asking for suggestions and support. 
You've also received many good suggestions.
May Our Lord abundantly bless you.
HIS Peace and HIS Joy,
Sharon-Marie
.
< Message edited by WhiteRoseBlessings -- 1/6/2009 9:24:13 AM >
_____________________________
And, with these our hells and our heavens so few inches apart, we must be awfully small and not as strong as we think we are.
--Rich Mullins
|
|
|
|
|
RE: I WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT BUT...... - 1/6/2009 4:07:50 PM
|
|
|
Mindy-and-Me
Posts: 233
Joined: 1/2/2009
Status: offline
|
CSL 7037 - I agree with you totally and am aware that I have a lot going on in my life and have had for many, many years. I have tried to fix and/or change the things that I could, but I am still dealing with a load of junk in my life. I don't want to go into details here - I mean, I would have to post something in about every subject OP on this site to get all my problems fixed!! Just let me say that I honestly feel that I have gotten rid of the things that I could, and I am dealing the best that I can with the things that I couldn't get rid of or fix.
So the things that I am living with now are pretty much permanent. You would understand if you and I had hours and hours together. So having said that - I need to lose weight. I have no insurance so I can not go to a Dietitian. I would love to, but can't afford to. Wouldn't it be nice to have enough money to hire a cook, tell her what I can and can not eat, and let her plan and fix all my meals so that I would lose weight?? What a dream!!
I know my situation sounds almost unbelievable, but I have lived like this a long time. To tell you the truth, it's a lot better now than it was a couple of years ago.
What I am trying to do is figure out what I can eat and how I can lose weight considering my situation as it is. The facts are the facts. I have seen multiple doctors, including therapists, and my life is probably the best now that it is going to get. :o(
You are very sweet and understanding. I appreciate any suggestions and recipes that I could try.
WhiteRose - Thank you for sharing. I really admire you for your determination and for what you have already done. You are a very strong person. I wish you the best in the future and pray that God will continue to help you. Anybody that can walk in those weather conditions and temperatures to go swimming is dedicated to say the least!
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
