|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 1:12:45 PM
|
|
|
Mrs.X
Posts: 2955
Joined: 7/7/2005
From: Newberg, OR
Status: online
|
quote:
The FDA is also worried that a ban — as sought by leading pediatricians' groups — might only drive parents to give adult medicines to their youngsters.
HERE is the link.
_____________________________
-Stina
From Sweet Grass to the Packin' House
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. -Proverbs 15:1
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 1:21:39 PM
|
|
|
stellaluna
Posts: 4294
Joined: 4/11/2005
Status: online
|
I was raised on Triaminic for cold symptoms and as an adult, I know all too well how miserable it is to be sick and have no relief from symptoms.
What say you parents? Do your kids benefit from OTC cold medicines? The argument is that they don't work, but I have a hard time buying that. I also have a hard time believing that parents think cold medicines make their children well, as opposed to just giving them some relief from symptoms.
_____________________________
Who should be allowed to attend church?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 1:49:22 PM
|
|
|
Mrs.X
Posts: 2955
Joined: 7/7/2005
From: Newberg, OR
Status: online
|
They've always worked for my kids. When they banned the infant cold medicine, I bought the older children's stuff, and asked the pharmacist to do the math and figure out how much to give my kids based on their weight. They had no problem doing that. The pharmacist actually said that she wishes parents thought to ask the pharmacist how much adult or older children's medicine to give their babies because people were overdosing their kids.
I think the medicine companies need to just put in large plain writing that they shouldn't give their children acetominophen or a decogestant with the cold medicine because it already has it in there. I also think they should say the medicine should not be given more often than every 4 hours under any circumstances and threaten death or overdose with big pictures and big writing.
Medicine is not something to mess around with especially with kids, and parents need to be responsible and read the label!
_____________________________
-Stina
From Sweet Grass to the Packin' House
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. -Proverbs 15:1
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 1:53:35 PM
|
|
|
Mrs.X
Posts: 2955
Joined: 7/7/2005
From: Newberg, OR
Status: online
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: stellaluna
I also have a hard time believing that parents think cold medicines make their children well, as opposed to just giving them some relief from symptoms.
My mom used to think that, LOL. I can remember feeling better at the tail end of a cold but my mom insisted I keep taking medicine until the cold was all the way gone because if I stopped taking before I was well, then I'd get sick again. Like ti was antibiotics or something.
And, when I had a cough, I would take cough syrup but she thought it if I washed it down with juice or something that it would be less effective because it needed to coat my throat for as long as possible. Bleh!
_____________________________
-Stina
From Sweet Grass to the Packin' House
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. -Proverbs 15:1
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 3:01:16 PM
|
|
|
karlie
Posts: 16957
Joined: 4/10/2005
From: Central California
Status: offline
|
I gave my kids cold medicines when they were sick(Triamninic and Dimetap) and it always helped them a lot with their symptoms. Enough to feel temporarily better so they could rest and not feel so miserable. It's ridiculous that some doctors think parents can't make those decisions anymore. There may be a few irresponsible and not-so-bright parents, but the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for that.
quote:
Our pediatricians office wasn't allowed to help that way because of liability issues.
Wow, that's strange. Our pediatrician was the one who recommended which cold medications to give them, depending on their symptoms and weight. If a pediatrician can't advice parents on that, who can? 
_____________________________
1 day of coal...364 days of fun. I'll take my chances!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 3:04:49 PM
|
|
|
Mrs.Wifey
Posts: 5082
Joined: 4/12/2005
From: The Gorgeous plains of Colorado
Status: offline
|
quote:
quote:
quote:
Our pediatricians office wasn't allowed to help that way because of liability issues.
Wow, that's strange. Our pediatrician was the one who recommended which cold medications to give them, depending on their symptoms and weight. If a pediatrician can't advice parents on that, who can?
If there is a ban on a drug use, then pharmacists and doctors aren't legally supposed to advise it's use, if something goes wrong then they are WAY open to law suits.
The ban is recent though Karlie, like in the past 18 months? Maybe 2 years, tops.
_____________________________
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 3:10:07 PM
|
|
|
karlie
Posts: 16957
Joined: 4/10/2005
From: Central California
Status: offline
|
I think I'm glad my kids are raised
_____________________________
1 day of coal...364 days of fun. I'll take my chances!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 3:17:35 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 6266
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
Cold meds prolong illness. They treat the symptoms in the short-term but they make you stay sick longer. Yes, cold symptoms are miserable, but they are your body's way of fighting the illness...not the illness coming after you.
So we hardly ever used them. The only time I used meds when the kids were little is if they could not sleep at night, because if you can't sleep, you can't heal. And, if Nate's temp got to the point where he could not keep water down, we used acetaminophen and ibuprofen to keep it below 102. Other than that, I just tried to make them as comfortable as I could, and I treat myself the same way.
I don't care about the ban one way or another, but it does seem to me that a lot of people have unrealisitic expectations for these meds, and use them to their own detriment.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 3:58:00 PM
|
|
|
karlie
Posts: 16957
Joined: 4/10/2005
From: Central California
Status: offline
|
quote:
They treat the symptoms in the short-term but they make you stay sick longer.
I have never, ever noticed that, not in my kids or in myself or my husband. Times when I haven't taken anything I've stayed sick just as long as times when I have. Even with the kids...we went on a kick for about a year when we didn't do any chemicals, medications, artificial dyes, etc. I never noticed them kicking a cold any faster with no meds than with.
quote:
but it does seem to me that a lot of people have unrealisitic expectations for these meds, and use them to their own detriment.
Even so, that's a parent's choice to make. If they think it makes their child more comfortable and they rest better, then it really should be left up to them as long as they aren't overdosing them.
_____________________________
1 day of coal...364 days of fun. I'll take my chances!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 4:04:46 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 6266
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
Which is why I said I don't really care about the ban.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 4:25:51 PM
|
|
|
pbaribeault
Posts: 1055
Joined: 4/29/2005
Status: offline
|
Yep, the authorities can chase me down too... I kept an old bottle from infant's cold meds and dose my baby using older children's meds calculating the appropriate milligrams from the infant's bottle. I know this might be a risk, but I'm not deeply worried because the original bottle (from my older girl's babyhood) certainly did a reasonable job before all this who-ha and did her no harm that I'm aware of.
I find that it works for the symptoms, but I only use it if the congestion is interfering with nursing or sleeping. A snotty nose that's not bothering her I just wipe up. My older girl is almost 4, and is clearly more comfortable when I provide her with medicine to relieve her symptoms.
I don't think that effectiveness needs to be 'scientifically established' at every age in order to offer a product for a parent to be free to choose it. If parents found it ineffective they wouldn't use it. I think banning these meds for under 6 would just lead to people becoming desperate enough to try giving the kids smaller doses of meds designed for the next age group. People with strong math skills may be safe if they research and calculate carefully, but if the problem in the first place was mis-dosing, how much more mis-dosing are we going to see when less-than-careful parents (who were not following clear labeling in the first place) say, "About half what it says for an adult should be fine." and go on guesswork.
Now, what I might support would be a ban on mixed-medicines. Cough-and-Cold-and-Fever is more likely to be misused than a one-chemical (or combination for one symptom) meds. We work this way, so that if I'm dealing with cough/cold/fever I give 3 medicines, but if not all 3 are present, I only treat what they have.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 4:39:48 PM
|
|
|
stellaluna
Posts: 4294
Joined: 4/11/2005
Status: online
|
I totally agree about the mixed medicines. If you really needed congestion/cough one time and the next time you didn't, it would still be tempting to use the mixed medication than to buy something new.
Also, it sounds like better labeling would solve a lot of problems.
And wasn't part of the problem labeling in the first place? Seems like I remember part of the problem was that the measuring for infant medication was different for child medication and the labels didn't make that clear. (Thus kids were getting overdosed because their parents thought they were measuring properly.)
_____________________________
Who should be allowed to attend church?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 6:26:02 PM
|
|
|
delete123
Posts: 969
Joined: 6/1/2005
Status: online
|
I think maybe the ban was set mainly for 'neglectful' parents. (IOW working parents who live an everday shuffle, get the kid to day care, off to work, blah,blah,blah!) Instead of doing what should be done IMO.
I am sure I will hear it from some women on this.
Anyhow what I do with my son, during the day I actually suction his nose as well as have him blow. At night I will give him a hot bath or shower to break up any congestion and suction him again. Rub him with vicks  and then give him tylenol cold (I do not use ibuprofen as it is harsher on the liver)dress him warm and he will usually sleep through the night.
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 6:58:19 PM
|
|
|
peculiar_lady2
Posts: 9496
Status: offline
|
quote:
I think maybe the ban was set mainly for 'neglectful' parents. (IOW working parents who live an everday shuffle, get the kid to day care, off to work, blah,blah,blah!) Instead of doing what should be done IMO.
I am sure I will hear it from some women on this.
yeah you're gonna hear from some women on this...starting with me. "neglectful" does not mean...working parents who live an everday shuffle, get the kid to day care, off to work, blah,blah,blah!....it means neglectful. You can be a very good parent and work...and you can be a neglectful parent and stay home. Neglect has nothing to do with working parents, it has to do with neglect and that's it!!!!
_____________________________
Proud to be...  
Be alert - the world needs more lerts.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 7:54:02 PM
|
|
|
delete123
Posts: 969
Joined: 6/1/2005
Status: online
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: peculiar_lady2
quote:
I think maybe the ban was set mainly for 'neglectful' parents. (IOW working parents who live an everday shuffle, get the kid to day care, off to work, blah,blah,blah!) Instead of doing what should be done IMO.
I am sure I will hear it from some women on this.
yeah you're gonna hear from some women on this...starting with me. "neglectful" does not mean...working parents who live an everday shuffle, get the kid to day care, off to work, blah,blah,blah!....it means neglectful. You can be a very good parent and work...and you can be a neglectful parent and stay home. Neglect has nothing to do with working parents, it has to do with neglect and that's it!!!!
Peculiar Lady~
You have to admit that sometimes through the hustle and bustle that a parent can overlook or doesn't take the time to suction a child's nose because of the work schedule? To me and I will repeat this *to me* this is just as important.
I plan on returning to work and I already have anxiety about what school I want my child to be placed, because of some parents procedure of protocal.
I think someone posted about parents sending their kids off to school/sunday school with an illness.
I am no way a 'perfect' parent and my child is an only child in which many would say he is spoiled. Maybe so, but like everyone I try to do my best and what is right and important for him
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 8:18:44 PM
|
|
|
Sideways
Posts: 3720
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: delete123
You have to admit that sometimes through the hustle and bustle that a parent can overlook or doesn't take the time to suction a child's nose because of the work schedule? To me and I will repeat this *to me* this is just as important.
Suction a child's nose doesn't take a lot of time, but it has limited effectiveness, and for my older baby it was extremely upsetting and stressful. I find it ludicrous to associate giving an older baby relief from a cold to being to neglectful to properly care for a child.
I'm a SAHM, too, and I only have one child at the moment, but when he was old enough, and with a doctor's consultation, I did give him medication to relieve him from congestion and allow him to rest. A good amount of sleep is critical to recovering from a cold, so hardly neglectful for me to provide him with the means to rest comfortably.
I feel quite certain that the moms who work outside the home are just as careful to medicate their children properly and appropriately.
_____________________________
This warranty does not include shark bites, bear attacks and children under five.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 8:42:00 PM
|
|
|
delete123
Posts: 969
Joined: 6/1/2005
Status: online
|
Well good thing I didn't say, "All" parents!!! But I have noticed parents in many circumstance that neglect (maybe that is a strong word, maybe I should have used overlooked?!) their child in situations whre it is clear the child is not being cared for properly when colds/flus occur.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 8:54:48 PM
|
|
|
Jenny-Fair
Posts: 6266
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: WA
Status: offline
|
From my POV it isn't that parents neglect or overlook something so much as it is that you have a very different idea of proper care than most of us.
_____________________________
Tony: Ziva, did you kill Houdini?
Ziva: It is possible. I do not remember all their names.
My Blog
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/3/2008 9:23:28 PM
|
|
|
delete123
Posts: 969
Joined: 6/1/2005
Status: online
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair
From my POV it isn't that parents neglect or overlook something so much as it is that you have a very different idea of proper care than most of us.
You could be right. I may be older, but am still a first time mother
|
|
|
|
|
RE: FDA rejects ban on child cold medicines - 10/4/2008 1:21:24 AM
|
|
|
Mrs.X
Posts: 2955
Joined: 7/7/2005
From: Newberg, OR
Status: online
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair
The only time I used meds when the kids were little is if they could not sleep at night, because if you can't sleep, you can't heal. And, if Nate's temp got to the point where he could not keep water down, we used acetaminophen and ibuprofen to keep it below 102. Other than that, I just tried to make them as comfortable as I could, and I treat myself the same way.
I usually only treat my kids at night too. They don't seem to feel that bad during the day, but at night the fever seems to go up and so do the other symptoms. I wonder why that is. Anyway, for the most part, my kids only needed the medicine at night.
_____________________________
-Stina
From Sweet Grass to the Packin' House
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. -Proverbs 15:1
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
