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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/26/2008 8:40:35 AM
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rgsoundguy
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Science and technology has proven when life begins. They can now see the progress from just before conception all the way to birth. People can pretend to ignore the truth but that doesn't change the truth. This is basic biology. It there is no life there is no growth period. If an organism is dead it will not grow.
Okay, well you can continue to stick to that and I hope you are successful. I know that I have been successful by humbling myself and encouraging the opposing view holders to humble themselves. As long as we show more people how horrible this barbaric act is.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 11:36:26 AM
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Prolife people believe that a baby whether newly conceived or 6 mos. old are persons and those who are prochoice do not.
Persons who are pro-choice need to believe that whether a newly conceived or 6 mos. old fetus is not a life in order to assuage their guilt.
The women who cry 'it is not a life' in order to justify an abortion because at this point a child would be an inconvenience, are the same women who cry 'I just lost my BABY' when they suffer a miscarriage when pregnancy is a little more convenient. An oxymoron at its best...
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 11:56:18 AM
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Persons who are pro-choice need to believe that whether a newly conceived or 6 mos. old fetus is not a life in order to assuage their guilt.
So how do you change their minds????
It all goes back to being a heart issue. Who changes people's hearts .... God.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 11:58:01 AM
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SovereignIsHe
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Persons who are pro-choice need to believe that whether a newly conceived or 6 mos. old fetus is not a life in order to assuage their guilt.
So how do you change their minds????
It all goes back to being a heart issue. Who changes people's hearts .... God.
All crimes and sins are a heart issue... And abortion is just another method of murder...
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Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 12:02:55 PM
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StephK
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Persons who are pro-choice need to believe that whether a newly conceived or 6 mos. old fetus is not a life in order to assuage their guilt.
So how do you change their minds????
It all goes back to being a heart issue. Who changes people's hearts .... God.
It starts by telling people the truth. You don't even have to bring God into the argument at first. Science and technology has proven that life begins at conception and that there is a lot more fetal development in the first trimester than previously thought.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 12:25:40 PM
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stampinlady
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All crimes and sins are a heart issue... And abortion is just another method of murder...
And??????????
How many years have we had prolife leaders and it's still legal to have an abortion. Doesn't that tell you something?
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 12:30:27 PM
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ljmac
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All crimes and sins are a heart issue... And abortion is just another method of murder...
And??????????
How many years have we had prolife leaders and it's still legal to have an abortion. Doesn't that tell you something?
It tells me that Democrats have opposed with all their might even the slightest infringment on their cherished right to slaughter babies.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 12:31:48 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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And??????????
Like all methods of murder it should be illegal, right?
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How many years have we had prolife leaders and it's still legal to have an abortion. Doesn't that tell you something?
Yes, most people in charge are evil...
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Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 12:51:11 PM
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StephK
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All crimes and sins are a heart issue... And abortion is just another method of murder...
And??????????
How many years have we had prolife leaders and it's still legal to have an abortion. Doesn't that tell you something?
Many leaders have passed laws limiting or outlawing specific practices and the laws keep getting ruled against by the USSC. The make up of the court has to change in order to actually get the laws changed. 0bama has already stated that he would appoint judges like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 100% pro choice. There will be some new supremes appointed the next term because several are very old. Justice Stevens is 88.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/29/2008 1:02:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: stampinlady
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All crimes and sins are a heart issue... And abortion is just another method of murder...
And??????????
How many years have we had prolife leaders and it's still legal to have an abortion. Doesn't that tell you something?
Many leaders have passed laws limiting or outlawing specific practices and the laws keep getting ruled against by the USSC. The make up of the court has to change in order to actually get the laws changed. 0bama has already stated that he would appoint judges like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 100% pro choice. There will be some new supremes appointed the next term because several are very old. Justice Stevens is 88.
It's BO's new entitlement, the right to a dead baby.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/30/2008 4:18:07 PM
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rgsoundguy
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Persons who are pro-choice need to believe that whether a newly conceived or 6 mos. old fetus is not a life in order to assuage their guilt.
So how do you change their minds????
It all goes back to being a heart issue. Who changes people's hearts .... God.
The problem is that people's hatred of God is the very thing that drives them to believe that an act such as abortion is OK. I find that in order to get to them, a lot of times God needs to be left out of the conversation. There are those who say they have the scientific proof, which I am in agreement with, but it is so easy for these lost people just to dismiss that. I try to use logic. If they reject the scientific proof I say, "you know, by that standard you are correct, I can not conclusively prove that life begins at conception, however, by using that same standard, you can not conclusively prove that it doesn't. I would rather have a clean conscience that eres on the side of life." They can not walk away from that conversation with out just the thought that they potentially have blood on their hands. It works trust me.
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Albert Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That convinces me that our nation is insane because we continually elect republicans and democrats expecting change and get none.
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RE: You were supposed to die, so do it! - 9/30/2008 5:47:36 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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ORIGINAL: stampinlady
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Persons who are pro-choice need to believe that whether a newly conceived or 6 mos. old fetus is not a life in order to assuage their guilt.
So how do you change their minds????
It all goes back to being a heart issue. Who changes people's hearts .... God.
The problem is that people's hatred of God is the very thing that drives them to believe that an act such as abortion is OK. I find that in order to get to them, a lot of times God needs to be left out of the conversation. There are those who say they have the scientific proof, which I am in agreement with, but it is so easy for these lost people just to dismiss that. I try to use logic. If they reject the scientific proof I say, "you know, by that standard you are correct, I can not conclusively prove that life begins at conception, however, by using that same standard, you can not conclusively prove that it doesn't. I would rather have a clean conscience that eres on the side of life." They can not walk away from that conversation with out just the thought that they potentially have blood on their hands. It works trust me.
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
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Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.
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