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Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:32:30 AM
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P31W
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What is the reason behind him doing this when he knows those who don't speak spanish will not understand the ads and when only those born in the USA can vote or those who have become citizens (meaning they have to speak english) can vote?
Who do the ads target and why?
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:36:07 AM
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He's stirring the pot racially with absolutely unfactual claims. And he knows full well he's going to have to rely on voter fraud (ie illegals and dead people voting) in this election to have a shot at it.
...Oh! Or did you want to see someone try to actually answer that question?
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:39:51 AM
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What is the reason behind him doing this when he knows those who don't speak spanish will not understand the ads and when only those born in the USA can vote or those who have become citizens (meaning they have to speak english) can vote?
Who do the ads target and why?
Greetings,
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What is the reason behind him doing this
Because the Canadians undertsand English, havent you heard of the North American Union?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:39:54 AM
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He has spanish speaking ads for the spanish speaking americans.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:44:48 AM
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He has spanish speaking ads for the spanish speaking americans.
Unless they speak english they cannot vote.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:51:38 AM
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Does the ad contain any lies?
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:53:06 AM
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He has spanish speaking ads for the spanish speaking americans.
Quoted for common sense. Not everything is a sinister conspiracy.
Or maybe it is. Is the world feeding upon itself? Will the inevitable resulting indigestion be the end of all things as we vomit ourselves, cleaning our bodies of the true cancer that grows within us all. As we quickly decay into digested nutrients we'll ask ourselves the only possible question: Is it a touch ironic that our cure is our demise? Cosmic Pepto won't quell this stomachache.
Nah, its simply that Obama figures Spanish voters will listen to Spanish ads more closely and will appreciate the consideration. Its an important voting block. The end (or is it???).
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:54:13 AM
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He has spanish speaking ads for the spanish speaking americans.
Unless they speak english they cannot vote.
Where did you get THAT idea? ('cause it's not true at all)
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 9:56:42 AM
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He has spanish speaking ads for the spanish speaking americans.
Quoted for common sense. Not everything is a sinister conspiracy.
Or maybe it is. Is the world feeding upon itself? Will the inevitable resulting indigestion be the end of all things as we vomit ourselves, cleaning our bodies of the true cancer that grows within us all. As we quickly decay into digested nutrients we'll ask ourselves the only possible question: Is it a touch ironic that our cure is our demise? Cosmic Pepto won't quell this stomachache.
Nah, its simply that Obama figures Spanish voters will listen to Spanish ads more closely and will appreciate the consideration. Its an important voting block. The end (or is it???).
Exactly!
McCain also has Spanish language campaign ads:LINK
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 10:05:37 AM
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He has spanish speaking ads for the spanish speaking americans.
Quoted for common sense. Not everything is a sinister conspiracy.
You find out that common sense is not so COMMON.
Even when I do talk to my spanish speaking neighbors that can speak english, they are more comfortable when we speak spanish.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 10:13:13 AM
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I just noticed my little rant doesn't make sense. Vomit doesn't turn into digested particles. If the Universe ate itself then vomited the contents it would create a vacuum. Wouldn't said vomit implode? But implode from what? Science isn't my thing.
Thats what I get for trying to be clever during a work break.
Seriously, I'm glad Obama opponents are also saying no biggie (more or less). There are enough real concerns about Obama; there is no need to create more. No offense to the OP, the question was asked and it was reasonable, the topic discussed and many of us on both sides decided no biggie. Perfect.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 10:13:49 AM
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What is the reason behind him doing this when he knows those who don't speak spanish will not understand the ads and when only those born in the USA can vote or those who have become citizens (meaning they have to speak english) can vote?
Who do the ads target and why?
Palin and simply...hes kissing their behinds.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 10:54:18 AM
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When you go to a foreign country and try to speak their language , they like you and will help you.
It's also a way to see if they can get leverage on the FL vote. That's probably all they run in Miami.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 10:58:25 AM
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If the ads were accurate, or just a translation of the regular inaccuracies he's playing for American audiences, I'd agree that was all there was to it. Yea, I'm in Florida, I know everything here is run in two languages. It's annoying. But the ads Obama is running are pure race-baiting.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:04:34 AM
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No offense to the OP, the question was asked and it was reasonable, the topic discussed and many of us on both sides decided no biggie. Perfect.
So does the ad contain flat out lies? Have you heard the ad?
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:10:23 AM
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The ad also doesn't target Hispanics - it targets Mexicans. I wonder if Obama's people know how that is going to go over with the Puerto Ricans and Cubans here in Florida?? Not well! And most of them ARE citizens. The quote below is interesting from Lincoln Diaz-Balart (who has significantly more credibility with the Hispanic community in Florida than Obama!). And the stuff they're using from Limbaugh is stuff he actually said complaining about McCain - it's like no one in the Obama camp does any research whatsoever!!
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"It is offensive and dishonest for Barack Obama to lie about John McCain's record on immigration and years of support for the Hispanic community, when it was Barack Obama himself who voted for 'poison pill' amendments that killed the effort at immigration reform. Instead of making false ads with baseless attacks, Barack Obama should be apologizing to the Latino community," Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart said in statement released by the McCain campaign.
The Spanish-language ad, launched earlier this week, aims to connect McCain to Republicans who have staked out staunch anti-illegal immigration stances — including talk radio host Rush Limbaugh.
"They want us to forget the insults we've put up with, the intolerance," the television ad's narrator says in Spanish as an image of Limbaugh is quoted saying, "Mexicans are stupid and unqualified" and "Shut your mouth or get out."
"They made us feel marginalized in a country we love so much," the narrator continues. "John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote and another, even worse, that continues the failed policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families."
But McCain has repeatedly disagreed with his party's base on the issue of immigration and was a chief sponsor of an immigration reform bill last year that deeply angered conservatives and nearly sunk his campaign for the presidency. The Arizona senator is also no favorite of Limbaugh, particularly for seeming to take a moderate stance on illegal immigration. But critics note McCain shifted his own policy on immigration as the Republican presidential primary race heated up, advocating a "security first" approach.
Limbaugh also took issue with the ad, telling the Politico it had taken his past statements — one of which is 15 years old — out of context and was an attempt at "race baiting."
Article here.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:12:53 AM
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What is the reason behind him doing this when he knows those who don't speak spanish will not understand the ads and when only those born in the USA can vote or those who have become citizens (meaning they have to speak english) can vote?
Who do the ads target and why?
You fail to realize the fact that millions of American Latinos actively watch, support, and enjoy Spanish language programming, radio, magazines, press, etc.. Most Hispanic households are, at a minimum, bi-lingual and 'Spanglish' is spoken. They share in both cultures and worlds.......
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:15:41 AM
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To become an american citizen if you are not born here you must be able to read, write and speak English.
That is for those of you who may not know this.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:17:52 AM
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You fail to realize the fact that millions of American Latinos actively watch, support, and enjoy Spanish language programming, radio, magazines, press, etc.. Most Hispanic households are, at a minimum, bi-lingual and 'Spanglish' is spoken. They share in both cultures and worlds.......
100% of them that are able to vote can understand English. There is no law requiring Americans to speak spanish. Why leave out more than "half" the voting population with these ads? Not wait it's much greater than that considering Latinos account for about 7.8 percent of potential voters nationwide. It's more than 90% of your potential voters!
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:18:50 AM
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The ad also doesn't target Hispanics - it targets Mexicans.
Correction - it targets Mexicans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorians, Colombians, Peruvians, Venezuelans, etc etc etc etc..
The mistake a lot of Anglo and Black Americans make is to think everyone is 'Mexican'. Nope, a good and large number of those illegally crossing the border from Mexico are anything but.
It's akin to saying all Germans are Polish, etc..
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:19:55 AM
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You fail to realize the fact that millions of American Latinos actively watch, support, and enjoy Spanish language programming, radio, magazines, press, etc.. Most Hispanic households are, at a minimum, bi-lingual and 'Spanglish' is spoken. They share in both cultures and worlds.......
100% of them that are able to vote can understand English. There is no law requiring Americans to speak spanish. Why leave out more than "half" the voting population with these ads?
He (and McCain) is specifically targeting Spanish speaking voters. Again, it's a dual culture thing.
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RE: Why Obama has ads in Spanish? - 9/19/2008 11:21:37 AM
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To become an american citizen if you are not born here you must be able to read, write and speak English.
That is for those of you who may not know this.
Sigh.
Again, many American BORN Hispanics watch, listen, read, live, enjoy their latino cultures and media outlets, seminars, books, celebrity news, soap operas, movies, etc etc etc etc..
Obama and McCain's ads on Spanish media outlets is nothing more than their reach into those large markets. Do you not live in or near a major city to see this day in and day out?
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