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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 12:59:22 PM
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Thessa
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A couple of columnists at a Philadelphia newspaper have intimated basically that if we don't vote for the One, we're going to have mass riots on our hands, and it will be the fault of those that didn't elect him.
Surrrreee....lol!
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 1:34:46 PM
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But that is beside the point that I was making. The point was that I'm not sure if it is accurate to draw the conclusion that the Obama campaign is "all about race" based on the observation of the actions of one woman in the Office Depot parking lot for a half an hour on one particular day.
Maybe you're right; I hope you are.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 4:30:13 PM
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A couple of columnists at a Philadelphia newspaper have intimated basically that if we don't vote for the One, we're going to have mass riots on our hands, and it will be the fault of those that didn't elect him.
HighPlainsDrifter: I'm curious - what paper was this? Also, do you remember the names of columnists or can you post a link (I couldn't find anything about this on Google News, but couldn't really do more than a cursory search since I didn't have a lot of information.) Thanks!
Also a general question for anyone who has posted here, what are you basing all of this riot talk on? Since the 70's, there have been many other black candidates for public offices that have lost, and I don't remember seeing widespread rioting because of that. (But, if you know of some, please post them so that I may be informed.) From what I have been able to gather, most "race" riots that have happened in the post-civil rights era surround a perceived injustice involving the police and a member of the minority community or between gangs - not political protest. Additionally, we see the more common riots that take place after sporting events, which often involve many different races of people (many of whom are white - simply because whites are the majority). Are you basing riot fears on that?
Or, are you basing this on the civil rights movement riots that took place in the 60s and very early 70's- most of which involved primarily black people? Or are you going back farther into history and basing this on riots that took place earlier - where many blacks were often targetted by whites during the Jim Crow era (such as Tulsa, Rosewood, Springfield) or even further back still to the anti-Chinese, anti-Italian, anti-Irish riots that took place closer to the turn of the century?
Also, do you have similar fears of whites (or other races) rioting should Obama be elected president? If so, why? If not, why not?
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 4:47:12 PM
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Forget about crying racism. If Obama loses there will be massive inner-city riots, looting, murders, shootings, etc..
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 4:49:34 PM
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Thessa
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Forget about crying racism. If Obama loses there will be massive inner-city riots, looting, murders, shootings, etc..
No. That will be if he wins.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 4:53:00 PM
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Forget about crying racism. If Obama loses there will be massive inner-city riots, looting, murders, shootings, etc..
No. That will be if he wins.
I never found law abiding citizens to do such things to begin with. But certain inner-city communities that are already in the nation (gang) business will be the first to do so. We're (law enforcement) are already murmuring about that possibility.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 4:54:57 PM
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I don't really care who cries racism first, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the meltdown.
This was supposed to be the coronation of The Messiah, after all....
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:04:10 PM
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Forget about crying racism. If Obama loses there will be massive inner-city riots, looting, murders, shootings, etc..
No. That will be if he wins.
I never found law abiding citizens to do such things to begin with. But certain inner-city communities that are already in the nation (gang) business will be the first to do so. We're (law enforcement) are already murmuring about that possibility.
I dont honestly see why anyone would start a riot at all if he lost. That makes NO sense at all. I dont see a riot starting if McCain loses either.
Am i missing something? Are citizens of this Country really that filled with ignorance?
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:06:03 PM
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The same ones who are crying about it now.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:06:43 PM
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I dont honestly see why anyone would start a riot at all if he lost. That makes NO sense at all.
You have to be kidding me, seriously. Do you not remember the riots from the Rodney King incident? Then the threats of riots if OJ Simpson was found guilty?
This will be the Rodney King thing x 10000000 and spanning not just LA.
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I dont see a riot starting if McCain loses either.
Because there wouldn't be.
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Am i missing something? Are citizens of this Country really that filled with ignorance?
It only takes a small amount to cause a lot of pain, loss, and death.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:08:19 PM
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I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the meltdown.
Not in peace.. not if you live in a big city.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:10:07 PM
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You have to be kidding me, seriously. Do you not remember the riots from the Rodney King incident? Then the threats of riots if OJ Simpson was found guilty?
Of course i remember that, but thats not the same thing as this. More people will come to know what Obama stands for as the election nears, and they will realize its just not about race. Its about everything else.
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It only takes a small amount to cause a lot of pain, loss, and death.
Very true.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:16:50 PM
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earthless
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Of course i remember that, but thats not the same thing as this. More people will come to know what Obama stands for as the election nears, and they will realize its just not about race. Its about everything else.
It is that and a lot more. Many inner-city communities feel that if Obama does not win it will be because of racism and "the man" holding them down.
Trust me. I see it every day on the streets and deal with those that hold the mentality that if he does not win, they will feel more than justified in bringing their wrath to the areas they feel are responsible (i.e. not like them...)
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:21:18 PM
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Thessa
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Of course i remember that, but thats not the same thing as this. More people will come to know what Obama stands for as the election nears, and they will realize its just not about race. Its about everything else.
It is that and a lot more. Many inner-city communities feel that if Obama does not win it will be because of racism and "the man" holding them down.
Trust me. I see it every day on the streets and deal with those that hold the mentality that if he does not win, they will feel more than justified in bringing their wrath to the areas they feel are responsible (i.e. not like them...)
Then if that is true i feel they are the ONLY ones that see black and white when it comes to this race for President.
Most voters dont see that. They see issues. They see policies.
Its obvious that a few african american people will be mad and talk about how he didnt win because of his race, but deep down they will know the truth. If that was going to be the case he never wouldve even won the nomination.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:23:20 PM
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Then if that is true i feel they are the ONLY ones that see black and white when it comes to this race for President.
Most voters dont see that. They see issues. They see policies.
Its obvious that a few african american people will be mad and talk about how he didnt win because of his race, but deep down they will know the truth. If that was going to be the case he never wouldve even won the nomination.
Unfortunately, none of the pure common sense your post exemplifies will matter when if Obama loses.. mayhem will ensue.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:26:11 PM
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Then if that is true i feel they are the ONLY ones that see black and white when it comes to this race for President.
Most voters dont see that. They see issues. They see policies.
Its obvious that a few african american people will be mad and talk about how he didnt win because of his race, but deep down they will know the truth. If that was going to be the case he never wouldve even won the nomination.
Unfortunately, none of the pure common sense your post exemplifies will matter when if Obama loses.. mayhem will ensue.
I hope and pray you are wrong. And ill also pray for you to be safe if it does.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 5:51:10 PM
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Cries of racism would be the least of problems if riots ensue.
A close loss in Ohio could do it I think.
I've seen this warning a few times here and elsewhere, and I'm sorry, but I really don't consider the warning that "if he loses, his supporters might throw a tantrum and riot in the streets" to be a compelling argument to vote for a candidate.
"Thug politics" is not appealing.
indubidibly, however i provided it as more of a realist.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 6:05:39 PM
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Also a general question for anyone who has posted here, what are you basing all of this riot talk on? Since the 70's, there have been many other black candidates for public offices that have lost, and I don't remember seeing widespread rioting because of that. (But, if you know of some, please post them so that I may be informed.) From what I have been able to gather, most "race" riots that have happened in the post-civil rights era surround a perceived injustice involving the police and a member of the minority community or between gangs - not political protest. Additionally, we see the more common riots that take place after sporting events, which often involve many different races of people (many of whom are white - simply because whites are the majority). Are you basing riot fears on that?
Or, are you basing this on the civil rights movement riots that took place in the 60s and very early 70's- most of which involved primarily black people? Or are you going back farther into history and basing this on riots that took place earlier - where many blacks were often targetted by whites during the Jim Crow era (such as Tulsa, Rosewood, Springfield) or even further back still to the anti-Chinese, anti-Italian, anti-Irish riots that took place closer to the turn of the century?
Also, do you have similar fears of whites (or other races) rioting should Obama be elected president? If so, why? If not, why not?
Folks:
If you're really worried about black people holding riots and destroying your communities after the November election, I invite you to go back and think about the questions Rgod asked. I think you'll find your concerns are unwarranted.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/16/2008 6:33:17 PM
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Racism still exists. And whether you want to believe it or not, there are plenty of reasons why one would think racism was involved in Obama lost. Bust judging from the insensitivity of this post, their belief would be well justified.
I imagine if I were black and had experienced racism I would understand this person's reply.
Having been the black sheep of the family though, I can empathize with this reply and only one that has been there can understand the hurt involved.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/17/2008 7:28:26 AM
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ever wonder where alll that "racism" was when OJ walked away free?
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/17/2008 8:20:52 AM
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Since racism has been redefined as the excuses why people don't get what they think they should have...usually without earning it....it would not surprise me at all for riots to happen after McCain wins.
If not riots then certainly without a doubt it will be said...over and over...that Obama lost because of racism.....
or Al Gore lost because of hanging chads when it was proven he did not.
The liberal mantra...repeat it enough and people will begin to believe it....and believe me, there are many people out there who would love to have Obama lose so they can go on making a living crying about racism.
How many nice houses and cars ( and pregnant gf's) does Jesse have to have before the black community wakes up and says..we have been had?
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/17/2008 8:35:38 AM
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Racism still exists. And whether you want to believe it or not, there are plenty of reasons why one would think racism was involved in Obama lost. Bust judging from the insensitivity of this post, their belief would be well justified.
I imagine if I were black and had experienced racism I would understand this person's reply.
Having been the black sheep of the family though, I can empathize with this reply and only one that has been there can understand the hurt involved.
CherishedbyGod,
Thank you.
Way back when I made my post I asked how Obama's loss could be seen as racist. You seem to be the only one who has endeavored to answer that question. in any form. However, I still fail to see the connection.
How can one's experience with racism be the sole justification for voting for someone, who is said to represenitive of a minority group? What about the other issues and concerns that face all of us regardless of our race? Issues and concerns that should and do tend to unite us. Issues and concerns that do not tend to be solely about race.
National security
taxes
personal and corporate accountability
etc.
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RE: When Obama loses, who will cry racism first? - 9/17/2008 9:50:10 AM
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The liberal mantra...repeat it enough and people will begin to believe it....and believe me, there are many people out there who would love to have Obama lose so they can go on making a living crying about racism.
and, those VERY SAME people, who make their living out of "creating" this 'victim class'....
and, who would TOTALLY disregard....and, actually campaign AGAINST a BLACK conservative when he/she runs for office.
it's hypocrisy at it's worst!
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