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Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/15/2008 5:56:52 PM   
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Have you tried any new experiments in your veggie garden this year?

What have you found to be successful and what has been unsuccessful?

Successful - I had read a tip to crush eggshells and mix them in with the dirt at the root ball of tomato plants to help prevent blossom end rot. Aside from tempting the raccoons to keep digging up my plants, this worked! Even my Roma tomatoes which are extremely prone to blossom end rot showed not one sign all season! I didn't use quite the "dozen eggs per plant" the tip called for. Maybe about 9 eggs worth. And, of course I had to be a bit creative with keeping the raccoons from digging.

Successful - Another experiment I tried this year was using landscape fabric across my row, cutting two lengthwise slits and planting my lettuce, beans, carrots, and beets in the slits. This worked very well save me from some very tedious work weeding those crops.

Successful - We tried an electric fence around the garden this year. One wire about 6 inches off the ground for the rabbits and such. One wire about 3 feet off the ground for the deer. This was very successful. The critters learned very quickly where they can eat in the yard and where they cannot. The last two years, especially, had been a real battle to get much of anything form the garden. Moreso since they have been building up around here and the wildlife have fewer places to forage. (I have "tested" the fence several times myself and found it to be nothing to fear.)

Unsuccessful - I know I had one or two unsuccessful experiments I wouldn't bother with again but, presently, I can't think of them. I'll have to leave that for another post.

Please give tell us what worked and didn't work for you.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/15/2008 9:55:07 PM   
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I remembered another

Successful - My beans would never survive the rabbits until my neighbor suggested covering the row with tulle (fabric) untill the plants got big enough to fend for themselves. My bean plants did very well after that - even before the electric fence went up.

Unsuccessful - Putting tulle over the cabbage plants didn't keep the butterflies/moths completely out so there were still some cabbage worms. (Maybe not as many though.) I might try covering individual plants instead of the whole row next year.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/15/2008 9:59:00 PM   
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I did the "egg shells by the tomato roots" thing this year, too, and had no issues with blossom end rot. I recommend this method!

Unsuccessful: for the second year running, getting my tomatoes to ripen on the plant. I think my little garden space just doesn't get enough sunlight. I had planted them in the other end of the space, but I was still unsuccessful. However, I did learn just how well tomatoes ripen in a paper bag on the kitchen counter!

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/16/2008 1:18:01 PM   
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I did the eggshell thing as well but was not as lucky as you two. My Opalka (paste tomatoes) have terrible, terrible BER. The rest seem fine.

I've been reading that the eggshells help but even watering is important. Even if the calcium is there if the plant doesn't have a way to bring it up then BER can develop. Me, I don't really water. Or at least I didn't until they all started rotting off the end. I thought we were having a wet summer already.

My experiments:

Almost everything I've done this year is an experiment. My family doesn't really garden.

Raising plants from seeds: mostly a success. I failed with the peppers, melons, cucumbers, and basil because I think they need higher temps. when sprouting. My stuff is in the basement which is generally in the 50s during late winter/spring.

A new raised bed: successful!

Eggshells in with tomato seedlings: eh...didn't seem to help the Opalkas much but the rest are okay..unsure of outcome

Raising beans in the bed under the trees: moderately successful or as successful as the insects and slugs allowed them to be. Much more successful then the potatoes and cukes last year.

Raising potatoes in 5 gallon buckets: moderately successful.

Raising carrots and lettuce from seed outdoors: unsuccessful. I tried planting 5 different times, weeded and watered. Nothing. Not one.

Succession planting beans: hopefully successful. I hope they'll have time to ripen before it freezes.

Composting in my husbands homemade pail with holes, etc, cut in it: half success (top half where I mixed leaves with kitchen waste) and half failure (last third from winter which wasn't mixed was nasty). We had to bury it.

Watering with a hose: unsuccessful. When I remember I still couldn't reach the farthest bed so I arced it across the yard. That bed has the worst case of late blight. Argh. I was so upset that I didn't get one squash or pumpkin this year. Maybe next year I'll try those drip hoses.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/16/2008 2:14:54 PM   
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Every one of my garden experiments were unsuccessful this year.
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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/16/2008 2:44:51 PM   
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I'm so sorry to hear of all the unsuccessful projects. But, the nice thing about gardening - - - - - -
There's Always Next Year

I am going to be cutting down a couple trees this fall. (Well, really Friend Hubby will. ) My veggie garden has become way too shaded over the years without me realizing it. I guess that'll be my first experiment for next year.

"Will Garden for Food" - I LIKE that!!!

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/16/2008 3:27:09 PM   
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Unsuccessful: hanging tomato plants. We cut holes in the bottom of 5 gallon buckets and planted the tomatoes hanging upside down from the hole. The plants curl up toward the sun and you don't need to stake them and they take up less space (an important feature for our tiny yard). Unfortunately, as the plants grew heavier their weight pulled their roots out of the bucket. I think it might work better with a burlap sack.

Successful: Planting zucchini in a different spot than last year.

Unsuccessful: Using plastic orange fencing to keep our new puppy out of the garden. We picked pieces of chewed orange fencing up from all over the yard and mourned our broken and crushed celery...which leads to:

Unsuccessful: trying to grow celery.

Successful: Letting the rogue tomato plants from last year's droppings grow. They did better than the ones we bought this year.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/16/2008 5:52:48 PM   
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I didn't have the heart to pick all the cabbage white caterpillars off my brassicas and turnips so they're gone.... but I have a bunch of happy butterflies.

I bought copper rings and it did a pretty good job of protecting my bean plants from the slugs and snails.

Salting slugs and snails work, as do beer traps and dry porridge oats.

My aubergine flowered (late) but didn't set fruit. But I bought it late, and it wasn't in a greenhouse.

My cucumber plants went crazy and I had a good supply of courgettes.

Strawberries in hanging baskets ~ wonderful!!! The slugs and snails can't get to 'em and if you use an old cd, the birds won't eat 'em either!

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/17/2008 1:04:23 PM   
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Unsuccessful: Growing tall runner peas up a 5 1/2 ft. bamboo tepee. The tepee kept falling over because the peas were just to tall and too heavy.

Successful: Letting the potatoes grow into plants that were left behind in the soil last year.

Unknown: I'm letting my lettuce go to seed for next year. I'm not sure when to harvest them, though they have flowered already.

Unsuccessful: Growing indeterminate Tomatoes in a Very Large Planter Box. They have grown too big and are taking too long to ripen. Only this month, have we been able to start eating tomatoes.
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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/17/2008 7:12:49 PM   
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Me too flowerz. I think it was the late spring.

I'm in Wisconsin (US) and I got only 2 tomatoes before September.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/17/2008 9:39:12 PM   
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Have you two tried the "tomatoes in the paper bag" trick?

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/17/2008 9:58:45 PM   
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They taste better when they ripen on the vine.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/17/2008 10:02:36 PM   
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I've made some yummy fried green tomatoes by dipping slices in egg wash then in (cheap) corn muffin mix. Fry them up and serve with honey mustard.

Tricia also has a recipe for green tomato pickles which is very nice.

And I've made green tomato hamburger relish. (recipe available on request)

Of course, they're not wonderful garden ripened red tomatoes but it might help turn unsuccessful into slightly successful.

And, yes, I've heard of the paper bag trick many times so it just might be worth a try. I personally have had about 10-15 ripe tomatoes from the garden. At least the frost has been holding off. I'm hoping for another couple weeks yet. I think they're saying something like Sept 18 being average killing frost here but I have seen it on Sept 10.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 10:04:10 AM   
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Yes, I think averages are based on the 80th percentile. Frost still comes earlier (or later in the case of spring) 20% of the time.

I have 4 mostly ripe windows on my windowsill so I may get to make tomato sauce for the first time this year.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 10:11:38 AM   
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quote:

I have 4 mostly ripe windows on my windowsill so I may get to make tomato sauce for the first time this year.


I've never grown windows before. Where do you get the seeds for those? &:)

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 11:33:05 AM   
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I'm going to leave my tomatoes on the vine to ripen as many as possible. We don't get our first frost till late October or so, but still, once the cooler weather & rains come, they don't want to ripen very much.
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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 3:20:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito

Have you two tried the "tomatoes in the paper bag" trick?

I have... and I've kept them on the vine when I'm doing it too...

I've heard, but not tried, that you can cut the main stem and then hang them upside down in a light, airy place and they'll ripen that way.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 10:29:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: agapetos

quote:

ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito

Have you two tried the "tomatoes in the paper bag" trick?

I have... and I've kept them on the vine when I'm doing it too...

Ahhh, nothing like "vine ripened tomatoes"

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 10:38:21 PM   
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I confess, I'm not too worried about them this year, I've got into jam and chutney making, so if they don't ripen, I'll make something with 'em!

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/18/2008 10:44:23 PM   
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I have never gotten around to trying chutney. This year my big experiment was Corn Relish. YUM! Someday I'll work into chutney. Do you use lots of it?

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/19/2008 10:24:59 AM   
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My whole garden was an unsuccessful experiment this year. Critters ate my bean plants not once, but twice, so the total number of beans I got was around a dozen.

I was late starting my tomato seeds. So late in fact that they didn't get in the ground until July. So I bought some plants at Home Depot, planted them the first week in June, got lots of cherry tomatoes, but the beefsteaks got a fungus that has now spread to everything else.

So I've already ordered seeds for next year, five different heirloom varieties that I already know will grow well here as long as I start them early enough.


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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/19/2008 11:01:40 AM   
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quote:

got lots of cherry tomatoes, but the beefsteaks got a fungus that has now spread to everything else.


Just about everyone I know who's planted tomatoes this year had bumper crop of cherry tomatoes and the regular tomatoes fizzled.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/19/2008 11:07:32 AM   
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I got some small ones off the beefsteak vines, but wasn't too happy with them. They looked and tasted like supermarket tomatoes. Around here that's unacceptable.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/19/2008 3:45:27 PM   
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uncabeeil, I highly recommend covering your beans with tulle (toole) - the fabric used for wedding veils etc. I am definitely using it on my first planting next year because it was so successful on my.... third.

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RE: Successful / Unsuccessful Garden Experiments - 9/19/2008 3:51:31 PM   
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quote:

Critters ate my bean plants not once, but twice,

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uncabeeil, I highly recommend covering your beans with tulle (toole) - the fabric used for wedding veils etc. I am definitely using it on my first planting next year because it was so successful on my.... third.


I'm really impressed by your diligent care for the critters of this world by feeding them such tasty and nutritious bean plants.

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