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Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in your... - 9/5/2008 8:48:14 AM   
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I have been having this discussion with a friend who is also a preacher. He and his wife take other lovers into their relationship and he justifies it by this explanation listed below. I would like some feedback and scripture reference on what others feel about this. Thanks much.
Linda

"Sorry I've been so slow to reply. My job has just been insane since I
came back from vacation.
It sounds like you have a lot of experience in the political maneuvers
of a traditional church. It's sad that so many "men of God" run churches
like their own little 3rd world dictatorships. I have no problem with
alpha males, but in a church setting that status is not properly gained
by bullying people. Within a religious setting a minister should first
love people unconditionally, then strike out in the direction God is
calling. If he has done a proper job of loving people they will follow.
On the topic of D/s lifestyles, let me clearly state, I think everyone
should run their own relationships in the way that suits themselves. If
a D/s relationship suites you and is a happy way of life for you, then
God bless and carry on. With that being said, I don't think the Bible
supports D/s, monogamy, polyamory, or any other specific relationship
style. The Bible teaches love based morality. If your D/s relationship
is based on mutual love and respect, God bless and carry on.
Part of the problem in applying the Bible to modern relationships is
that certain parts of the Bible are very much out of context in the
modern world. The oldest parts of the Bible are over 4000 years old. The
culture it was written into no longer exists. For example, the Bible has
much to say about how a slave should behave. This does not indicate that
the Bible is in favor of slavery. Slavery was a cultural fact. It only
says that if one IS a slave they should act in a certain way. The Bible
says little directly about whether a person SHOULD be a slave of whether
slavery should exist.
Likewise, many of the submission passages in the Bible are merely
acknowledgements of the cultural reality of the time. The Bible also
lays equally strong requirements on men to love and care for their
wives. IMHO, if you strip the culture of the time out and look at the
principles being taught what you find is a doctrine of couples being
partnerships of equals. Men DO take a leadership role, but that is
earned through loving their wives and being worthy of their respect.
It's always tempting for us to decide that a certain lifestyle is for
us, then to try to justify it as being "Biblical." In your case it's the
D/s lifestyle. In our case it's polyamory. I could trot out the
extensive lists of great Bible stories of poly people. I could try to
make the case. The fact of the matter is that the Bible really makes no
comment on poly vs mono relationships. Likewise, for all the submission
passages in the Bible, there are also MANY stories of strong willed
women who did what was right rather than what they were told. The Bible
has room for both submissive women and strong willed mavericks.
To make a long story short, we are polyamorous because it makes us
happy. God does not forbid these kind of relationships so we stepped out
and live the way we are happy.
If a D/s lifestyle makes you happy, Gods law does not forbid that sort
of relationship so step out and life the way that makes you happy.
The whole core of the teachings of Christ is found in Matthew
22:34-40. That is the only commandment Jesus ever gave. It is the Law of
Love.
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I look forward to
hearing from you again
God bless,"
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:10:46 AM   
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To make a long story short, we are polyamorous because it makes us happy. God does not forbid these kind of relationships so we stepped out and live the way we are happy.


So, scripture doesn't matter as long as he is 'happy'? WRONG on SO many counts!

Matthew 22:34-40 Love your neighbor as yourself does NOT mean sex!

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:14:23 AM   
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quote:

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To make a long story short, we are polyamorous because it makes us happy. God does not forbid these kind of relationships so we stepped out and live the way we are happy.


So, scripture doesn't matter as long as he is 'happy'? WRONG on SO many counts!



So what scripture are you referring to?
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:23:31 AM   
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There's so many verses that teach against sex outside of marriage, adultery, etc.

1 Co 6:13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

1 Co 6:18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

1 Co 7:2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.

1 Co 10:8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

1 Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality;

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:28:47 AM   
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Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:34:22 AM   
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Linda, you shouldn't be 'talking' about sex with another man. I'd block his messages and emails.


"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." - 2 Tim. 3:1-5


"For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them..." - Eph. 5:5-7

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. " - Eph. 5:11

"For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;" - Tit. 1:10-13

"But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." - Titus 3:9-11

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:36:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dianetavegia

There's so many verses that teach against sex outside of marriage, adultery, etc.

1 Co 6:13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

1 Co 6:18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

1 Co 7:2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.

1 Co 10:8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

1 Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality;


OK so now I will play the devils advocate here: you state that these are stated as sex OUTSIDE the marriage...........what if it is done within the marriage and it is consensual between all parties involved. I am just looking for things to go back to him with. Thanks for your input.
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:41:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dianetavegia

Linda, you shouldn't be 'talking' about sex with another man. I'd block his messages and emails.




This man is a preacher in Alabama who goes around preaching these things. I have met him personally and he and his wife are very sweet people. I'm not saying I agree with what he teaches or how he lives I am just debating with him what his beliefs are and what it is I believe. We are not talking about sex with each other, but how it is used within others lifestyles. How do you witness to others if you just block them????
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:50:13 AM   
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Again, it is wrong for you to discuss sex with another man. This could be a sexual outlet for this man and you are opening the door to Satan.

Do you know the parable of 'sweeping a house clean"? It applies to you and this situation.

Matthew 12:43 "When an evil spirit leaves a person, it goes into the desert, seeking rest but finding none. 44 Then it says, 'I will return to the person I came from.' So it returns and finds its former home empty, swept, and clean. 45 Then the spirit finds seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they all enter the person and live there. And so that person is worse off than before. That will be the experience of this evil generation."

When you turn from sin and turn to Christ, your house is swept clean. When you open the door, again, to sin.......


Adultery is adultery. Just because this man and his wife enjoy sinning does not remove the 'sin' stain. Homosexuals 'love' their partner, yet homosexuality is an abomination to God.

Sex inside marriage is between a husband and wife. Read the scriptures.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:53:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Histrblmkr
We are not talking about sex with each other, but how it is used within others lifestyles. How do you witness to others if you just block them????


You will have to give an account for every idle word spoken. Talking about how sex is used within his lifestyle IS talking about sex.

This man is a false prophet, heretic, lover of himself and not a man of God. Scripture is VERY clear.

"But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." - Titus 3:9-11

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 10:04:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Histrblmkr
This man is a preacher in Alabama who goes around preaching these things. I have met him personally and he and his wife are very sweet people...

One observation: Satan does not show up in a red suit with a two-pronged pitchfork. No, he comes, according to scripture, as a messenger of light. (see 2 Corinthians 11:14) He and his messengers are going to be sweet, appealing, and have a soothing message. But his purpose is to deceive and consume you. (see 1 Peter 5:8) How do you know when you are in the presence of a servant of Satan? When their gentle persuasion contradicts or twists scripture (read Matthew 4 where Satan twisted scripture in an attempt to deceive Jesus!).

It seems to be a universal sign - one that is repeatedly ignored by the deceived - that false teachers encourage sexual sin. The list is long but those that ignore the huge warning to their destruction is far, far longer!
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 10:06:37 AM   
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As far as I know, no where in the Bible does God ever say its ok to have more then one wife or husband or to have a 3rd, 4th, etc. involved with the relationship sexually.

Those that had more then one, were in defiance of God's laws at the beginning - it was man that started this, not God.

And keep in mind that the Bible warns of many false teachers in the churches - sounds like this preacher is one of them.
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 10:40:55 AM   
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This 'preacher' is wrong when he said 'the only commandment Jesus ever gave...... citing one'. Jesus repeated every commandment except 'remeber the Sabbath Day'.

Linda, are you reading the scripture we give you? Also, what is D/s?

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On the topic of D/s lifestyles, let me clearly state, I think everyone
should run their own relationships in the way that suits themselves. If
a D/s relationship suites you and is a happy way of life for you, then
God bless and carry on.


quote:

If a D/s lifestyle makes you happy, Gods law does not forbid that sort
of relationship so step out and life the way that makes you happy.


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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 10:51:20 AM   
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A few of the commandments of Jesus
(Note: Your 'preacher' claimed there was ONLY ONE)
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The whole core of the teachings of Christ is found in Matthew
22:34-40. That is the only commandment Jesus ever gave. It is the Law of
Love.


Matt 5:16 Live such a godly life that people, seeing you do good deeds, will have respect for your Father which is in heaven.

Matt 5:23-24 Do not come to worship God until you have settled any legitimate grievances against you.

Matt 5:25-26 Make every effort to be reconciled with those whom you may have wronged, lest they bring their complaint to God. There is no escaping His justice. If you do not make right the wrong you have done to another while you can, God will cause you to reap the very last ounce of grief that your evil deed deserves.

Matt 5:29-30 Cut off a precious member of the body rather than to allow the whole body to be corrupted and lost. It is better to lose one member of the body, however important, than that the whole body should be destroyed.

Matt 5:34-37 Do not make promises, for you may not live to keep them. Simply state your intentions.

Matt 5:38-39 Never do violent harm to anyone, even in self-defense. To please God, you must be willing to be mistreated.

Luke 6:29a If someone strikes you, do not resist him. Let him do it again.

Luke 6:29b-30 If someone unjustly takes your goods away, let him take the rest, not even asking to have them back. Never turn down a request for what you have, regardless of who asks for it.

Matt 5:40 And if someone sues you for your coat, give him also your shirt.

Matt 5:41 If you are forced to do a favor, do two favors instead.

Matt 5:42 Lend to those who want to borrow from you, and give to those who ask for your aid.

Matt 5:43-48 Be, like your perfect heavenly Father, without fault. Love even your enemies, and do good to everyone, including those who despise you and try to harm you.

Luke 6:27-28 Always do good to others, even if they do evil toward you.

Matt 6:1-18 Do not make a show of your religion, or it will be in vain. There will be no eternal blessing for deeds done to be seen by men. This means, do not make a show of your charity, or your praying, or your fasting. Do these kinds of things in secret, not looking for men either to know about them or to reward you for them, but trusting the Father to know and to reward.

Matt 6:19-24 Do not hoard up money on earth, but labor to have a heavenly treasure. If you are pursuing money, you are not serving God.

Luke 6:38 Give to others, and God will see to it that others give to you.

Luke 6:34-35 And do not be like the unbelievers, who charge interest on their loans, but be like your Father, who freely gives to all.

Matt 6:25-34 Take time to consider God's care for animals and plants, that you might learn not to be anxious about your essential needs each day. Let your first concern be your need for the righteousness of God, and trust God for the rest. Do not waste a single thought today on the needs of tomorrow. After all, what can you change by thinking about it?

Matt 7:1-2 Do not make any judgments, lest you be turned over to the power of the judgments of others. Do not condemn others and you will not be condemned. And if you want forgiveness, you yourself must be forgiving.

Matt 7:3-5 Do not try to correct others until your own blinding faults are gone. Make your own heart right, and then you may be able to render spiritual guidance to others.

Matt 7:6 If you try to minister the things of the Spirit on your own, you will bring the holy things of God into contempt, unnecessarily making enemies in the process. As Uncle Joe says it, "If you get to people before God does, you're wasting your time."

Matt 7:7-11 Ask, seek, and knock for the things of God, and they will be given to you.

Matt 7:12 Treat others the way you would like to be treated. This is what the Law and all the prophets were trying to show you to do.

Matt 7:13-14 There are just a few people who find the way into eternal life. Therefore, choose the narrow way.

Matt 7:15 Beware of Christian ministers, those who merely think they are God's servants.

Matt 5:11-12 When persecutions come simply because you have done what is right in God's sight, rejoice and be extremely happy, for you have a great reward in heaven.

Luke 6:22-23 One of the happiest moments of a man's life should be when he is hated and abused for Christ's sake.

Luke 6:24-26 One of the most tragic things that can happen to a man is to have plenty of earthly possessions and be well-liked by all men.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 11:35:23 AM   
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Please tell me you plan to expose the wicked ways of this so called preacher. His blatant sins need to be outed to whoever is in authority over him, so he will be removed from the pulpit. His followers also need to be made aware of his heresy.
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 12:29:45 PM   
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In God's perfect example of what marriage should look like, the one in the garden, how many mates did He create for the other?

There was only one Adam and one Eve.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 12:33:24 PM   
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Part of the problem in applying the Bible to modern relationships is
that certain parts of the Bible are very much out of context in the
modern world. The oldest parts of the Bible are over 4000 years old. The
culture it was written into no longer exists.


While I agree that we must take culture and context into account, I think this "pastor" has denied biblical authority here. Any verses you give him he'll just say are irrelevant because it isn't applicable to our culture.

I seriously doubt you can change this man's mind. I agree with Diane - don't listen to his teachings and don't try to persuade him differently. It'd be casting pearls before swine.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 12:53:26 PM   
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Run from that guy as fast as you can. If you are in his congregation, quit now. This person is in serious error and perversion. He has no place as a leader of a church.

Like most lies of the devil, there is an element of truth mixed in there. A former pastor once told us that the devil will give you just enough truth to float his lies in. There is nothing in scripture (OT or NT) that specifically prohibits a man from having more than one wife IF HE IS NOT IN CONGREGATIONAL LEADERSHIP. That is the truth.

Now for the lies:

* There is no place in scripture that allows a woman to have more than one husband.
* There is no place in scripture that condones an extramarital sexual relationship of any kind.
* There are many places in the NT that say we are to follow the laws of the land inasfar as they do not force us to violate scripture. The law of this land is marriage = 1 man + 1 woman. period. The places that allow same gender relationships still do not allow multiples of them.

As to running your own relationships, God and the bible have a LOT to say as to how we should run them. What he advocates is the thing the author of Judges condemned Israel for: "everone did what was right in his own eyes,"

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 1:17:12 PM   
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I would be interested in knowing where this "preacher" got his degree in theology. He is twisting scripture to meet his own selfish desires. If this man claims to be a Christian but is teaching these things he is a wicked deciever whom I would avoid if I were you. He has been exposed to the truth but has rejected it for a lie.

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

1 Timothy 3:1 Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer,[a] he desires a noble task. 2Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife...

1 Timothy 3:12 A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

Ephesians 12:23 For these commands are a lamp,
this teaching is a light,
and the corrections of discipline
are the way to life,

24 keeping you from the immoral woman,
from the smooth tongue of the wayward wife.

25 Do not lust in your heart after her beauty
or let her captivate you with her eyes,

26 for the prostitute reduces you to a loaf of bread,
and the adulteress preys upon your very life.

27 Can a man scoop fire into his lap
without his clothes being burned?

28 Can a man walk on hot coals
without his feet being scorched?

29 So is he who sleeps with another man's wife;
no one who touches her will go unpunished.

Ephesians 12:32 But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment;
whoever does so destroys himself.

Leviticus 20:10 " 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

9Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Matthew 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

God's Word does not change. While it does help us to better understand the meaning of certain passages to understand the culture of Biblical times, it does not negate the commands and teachings of Christ.

Sex outside of marriage was a sin back then and it is a sin still today. So if this man is teaching that sex with someone he isn't married to is ok then he is wrong. Absolutely, 100% wrong.

Some people call themselves Christians but really aren't. The Bible says we can recognize other believers or non-believers by their fruit (i.e. how they live their lives). I would venture to say that this man is not a true follower of Christ.

I don't know about polygamy. I personally don't think it's right but don't know any scripture that specifically teaches forbids it other than telling leaders in the church they should only have one wife. So either way, this man is wrong. He is a preacher and as such is clearly instructed to have only one wife.
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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 2:09:42 PM   
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I think this Alabama 'preacher' got a PHD as a Pizza Hut delivery guy instead of a Divinity Degree.

He's spewing horse manure, Linda. Block his emails and do not accept phone call from him or his wife. You're treading on very dangerous ground and you're going to get trampled.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 3:00:23 PM   
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This 'preacher' is wrong when he said 'the only commandment Jesus ever gave...... citing one'. Jesus repeated every commandment except 'remember the Sabbath Day'.

Linda, are you reading the scripture we give you? Also, what is D/s?




I hear what you are saying and I know that he is wrong. I have quoted this to him...........Hebrews 13:4
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

And D/s stands for Dominance and submission...........in other words I totally submit to what my husbands wants and trust in him completely to do what he feels is right for our family and relationship.
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And just what exactly is adultery? Truth is not relevant and is unchanging, otherwise it would just be a matter of opinion and therefore non-existent. Our God is not a God of confusion and He makes it very clear that fornication and adultery is a sin.
2 Peter:
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin, beguiling unstable souls: a heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam, the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbade the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 4:37:13 PM   
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And D/s stands for Dominance and submission...........in other words I totally submit to what my husbands wants and trust in him completely to do what he feels is right for our family and relationship.


You are not being completely truthful. The D/s sub-culture is much more than that. It is degrading to women to the point that some of them wear dog collars, and I am not talking about jewelry. You are trying to make it sound like you are using the word submissive the same way Christians do, but that would be untruthful. There is a whole sub-culture of strange things that go on.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 4:50:35 PM   
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This "preacher" is an absolute idiot and unintelligently misrepresenting scripture. It's certainly not "good" or based on acceptable moral standards that the Word lays down.

"On the topic of D/s lifestyles, let me clearly state, I think everyone should run their own relationships in the way that suits themselves."

Um, no. Our relationship is to reflect Godly principles and moral standards provided by His Word. Using this untheological "logic", premarital sex and other forbidden acts outside of marriage would be acceptable. Yet, the Bible is quite clear that any acts of sexual immorality is wrong outside of marriage. It's also clear that any sexual acts inside of marriage must be kept between you and your spouse, there isn't "another".

"Likewise, many of the submission passages in the Bible are merely acknowledgments of the cultural reality of the time."

This is a perfect example of someone twisting theology to fit their own wants and personal needs. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever will be. There are certain parts of the Bible that described a specific morality of that time, yes. However, it doesn't mean those principles aren't to be applied in the modern world. If purity was only a cultural expectation during a certain time, should we still practice it? Yes. Why? Because God's Word says so. Likewise with sexual morality in marriage.

"The Bible also lays equally strong requirements on men to love and care for their wives."

No. The Bible requires men to love their wife, non plural, as much as they love themselves, and to be their provider in every one of their needs.

"It's always tempting for us to decide that a certain lifestyle is for us, then to try to justify it as being "Biblical.""

A Christian only has one lifestyle, not many. It is supposed to be justified as being biblical and holding godly manners. Our relationships are also to demonstrate those identical principles. We are not to look at what is evil and call it good. We are to determine these things based off the knowledge we receive from the Bible.

"The fact of the matter is that the Bible really makes no comment on poly vs mono relationships."

Wow. That's amazing. Because as a preacher, I would certainly think you to be a lot less biblically ignorant than you are. The Bible is quite clear on this subject, but to the blind, they could never see that.

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RE: Is it Biblical to have more than one wife/lover in ... - 9/5/2008 9:30:00 PM   
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Gen 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

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1 Cor 6: 13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

14 And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.

15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not!

16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For "the two," He says, "shall become one flesh."

17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.


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