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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 7/31/2008 7:40:20 PM   
BlessedMamaofmany


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oh no! It's not like that at all...he was honest and said it did hurt. He and Justin were very honest with each other. The pastor said he loves us and nothing could change that, and that they'd never hold a grudge against us.
I just worry...I struggle so badly with being a pleaser...don't rock the boat...don't cause trouble...
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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 7/31/2008 8:19:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlessedMamaofmany
I just worry...I struggle so badly with being a pleaser...don't rock the boat...don't cause trouble...



Sandy,

Any idea where you learned that "coping mechanism"? Maybe somewhere along the line you learned to take on false guilt, were maybe made to feel responsible for things you weren't responsible for?

If you'd rather not say, no problem.

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 7/31/2008 11:09:55 PM   
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I know exactly what it's from...and I don't mind saying. It's a constant struggle.
My parents fought a lot when I was young. My dad drank A LOT and was a jerk often (not abusive..just a jerk). My dad and I DID NOT get along...
My parents split up several times...4th grade, 6th grade, 8th grade, and finally divorced when I was 16. I'm the oldest, my brother was a trainwreck. I was indirectly responsible for keeping peace between him and I. If I was a good girl, that made it that much easier...kwim?
(to give my parents credit, they rarely fought in front of us..but I *knew* they did, you could cut the tension in my house with a butter knife..)
Thankfully, my dad is a wonderful grandpa and has quit drinking. My mom is saved (working on my dad) and has always been a wonderful mom.
I hate that about myself. I make myself sick with worry sometimes. I just don't know how to deal with it. How to change it. I try so hard...
Anyhoo. That's my trainwreck.

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 12:19:28 AM   
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Sandy I am glad that Justin was able to tell him so you can now sort of move on. Don't worry about it. I know its easier said than done, but what's the worrying going to achieve? They said they love you still, it will be fine. hugs to you!

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 10:38:51 AM   
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Sandy I feel bad for you and know how hard it is to leave a church. We left after 30 years and God told us not to tell anyone the real reason. So we just told people that God said it was time to leave.

But you and your husband aren't just leaving your church, you are being called into the ministry, Wow, what an exciting time in your life. You aren't leaving because of hard feelings, you are leaving to go to the place God has called you to. Double Wow. This is really out of your hands so please don't beat yourself up over this. God has called your husband into the ministry. Triple Wow.
God bless you and I hope you can share this calling with your friend and share being a pasor's wife with each other
I have a feeling that you will be given so many opportunites to minster and will your kind and loving heart, you'll do great.
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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 12:24:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlessedMamaofmany
I know exactly what it's from...and I don't mind saying. It's a constant struggle.
My parents fought a lot when I was young. My dad drank A LOT and was a jerk often (not abusive..just a jerk). My dad and I DID NOT get along...
My parents split up several times...4th grade, 6th grade, 8th grade, and finally divorced when I was 16. I'm the oldest, my brother was a trainwreck. I was indirectly responsible for keeping peace between him and I. If I was a good girl, that made it that much easier...kwim?
(to give my parents credit, they rarely fought in front of us..but I *knew* they did, you could cut the tension in my house with a butter knife..)
Thankfully, my dad is a wonderful grandpa and has quit drinking. My mom is saved (working on my dad) and has always been a wonderful mom.
I hate that about myself. I make myself sick with worry sometimes. I just don't know how to deal with it. How to change it. I try so hard...
Anyhoo. That's my trainwreck.





(((( Sandy ))))

When I asked you what I did, without knowing anything about you I thought "alcoholic parent" and "good girl".

That isn't because I am being particularly insightful, it's because I remember it from both my counselling training, and counselling I myself received during that time.

Being a "good girl" is a coping mechanism learned out of desperation in order to survive.

A "good girl" tends to measure her worth in the world by her ability to win approval - and if she does not do so regards herself as a failure.

Sandy, a trained professional counsellor will be able to assist you work to through it all, if ever you decide you want help.

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 12:42:21 PM   
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Sandy- posting semi-blind... If God has told you to go, go. If people really care, they will understand, just be honest. "I am not leaving for any reason other than God's leading. I am not upset about anything or disagreeing with a policy, dh and I just feel led to go elsewhere right now." It may even be good for your friend to have a friend "outside the fold" so to speak.

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 1:10:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: manda59

quote:

ORIGINAL: BlessedMamaofmany
I know exactly what it's from...and I don't mind saying. It's a constant struggle.
My parents fought a lot when I was young. My dad drank A LOT and was a jerk often (not abusive..just a jerk). My dad and I DID NOT get along...
My parents split up several times...4th grade, 6th grade, 8th grade, and finally divorced when I was 16. I'm the oldest, my brother was a trainwreck. I was indirectly responsible for keeping peace between him and I. If I was a good girl, that made it that much easier...kwim?
(to give my parents credit, they rarely fought in front of us..but I *knew* they did, you could cut the tension in my house with a butter knife..)
Thankfully, my dad is a wonderful grandpa and has quit drinking. My mom is saved (working on my dad) and has always been a wonderful mom.
I hate that about myself. I make myself sick with worry sometimes. I just don't know how to deal with it. How to change it. I try so hard...
Anyhoo. That's my trainwreck.





(((( Sandy ))))

When I asked you what I did, without knowing anything about you I thought "alcoholic parent" and "good girl".

That isn't because I am being particularly insightful, it's because I remember it from both my counselling training, and counselling I myself received during that time.

Being a "good girl" is a coping mechanism learned out of desperation in order to survive.

A "good girl" tends to measure her worth in the world by her ability to win approval - and if she does not do so regards herself as a failure.

Sandy, a trained professional counsellor will be able to assist you work to through it all, if ever you decide you want help.

I know I need it probably. Just kinda chicken to actually start it. I find it very difficult to face those kinds of things and share my deepest thoughts and feelings.

I saw my pastor's wife/Dear friend today at the farmer's market. I felt a tiny bit of awkwardness between us. I *can't* talk to her (for reason above..too chicken to share)...maybe I'll email her today. I know I can express myself so much better in writing...hence why I sound so brilliant and articulate on here right? (STOP LAUGHING)

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 1:31:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlessedMamaofmany
I know I need it probably. Just kinda chicken to actually start it. I find it very difficult to face those kinds of things and share my deepest thoughts and feelings.


I understand. But a good counsellor won't try and pressure you into talking about things you're not ready to talk about. Things will proceed at a pace you're comfortable with. You also won't be expected to talk about everything at once.

The standard "get started" questions are usually something like:

What has led you to come here today, ie why now?
When is the problem most troublesome?
When is the problem least troublesome?
When did the problem start?

So I reckon that's all you'd need to be prepared to talk about initially anyway.

quote:


I know I can express myself so much better in writing...hence why I sound so brilliant and articulate on here right? (STOP LAUGHING)


I didn't laugh!! I find it much easier too. I think sometimes people online get an erroneous impression of me because I say so much - whereas in real life I am actually quite a quiet person who could easily go unnoticed (my choice).

If you're not ready to see a counsellor yet, how would you feel about reading a book that might help you?

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RE: guilt over changing churches? - 8/1/2008 1:33:39 PM   
BlessedMamaofmany


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I would like that very much Manda! I'd bet you have a book in mind..am I right?
Sandy

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