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Penpen -> Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 8:06:19 AM)

If a co-worker was obviously taking advantage at work would you tell anyone or keep it to yourself?

By "taking advantage" I mean, leaving when the boss isn't in or after he leaves and not charging any time for yourself on the time card. Coming and going as you please, and charging leave for what it is not intended.

I will write more on this situation after some responses.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 8:17:17 AM)

These things usually take care of themselves and to say something yourself, would be counter productive.



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 8:37:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1
These things usually take care of themselves and to say something yourself, would be counter productive.

That's worth repeating. I'd stay out of it, and watch that a root of bitterness doesn't grow up and choke your joy at work and also that you don't begin to do some of the same.



Jet_A_Jockey -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 9:01:42 AM)

my personal belief is that if it doesn't directly affect me, as in making my workload much harder, or whatever, then just leave it alone. It'll come out in the wash. Just be sure to cover your own in case he tries to accuse you of the same conduct, so come up with a way to prove that you are there when he isn't , or something of that sort.



Penpen -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 10:08:30 AM)

Thanks for all that posted.

What if this person leaving has affected you being able to complete a task that was given to you? To complete this task you need this person to do their job and they are MIA.



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 1:31:41 PM)

In that case, I would carefully word the explanation so that I didn't specifically implicate the other person. Honestly, I don't know that I'm right, but only if they had to come near to dragging it out of me, I would admit that the job could not be completed in a timely way because the other person wasn't there. Maybe that's passive/aggressive -- I don't know.

I just wouldn't want to be the one to spill the beans easily.

I would first go to the person her/himself first, tell them what their leaving has done, and see if they will correct it her/himself.



mvic -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 2:14:54 PM)

Obviously you can't and shouldn't give us details on this Forum.

But let's consider the scenario:

If the individual's actions are affecting your work try first, politely, to explain to him HOW it affected your work. Don't point out that his actions are the reasons - just say that your work was affected as follows (bla bla bla) because "I expected you to do something by a given time which you didn't". Ask him to suggest what can be done to improve the situation in future. This way you have not accused him of anything but merely informed him that he is affecting your output and you would like the situation to improve before management finds out.

If the situation improves as far as your work and output is concerned then leave it at that. Even if he continues with his behaviour. If it doesn't affect your work it is not up to you to tell management what he is doing. That's what supervision is there for.

If the situation does NOT improve as far as your output is concerned; then discuss the matter with colleagues who may also be affected. As a last resort, discuss the matter with supervisors/managers. But do NOT tell them about his actions. Just explain HOW he has affected your work output.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. Explain to management that you expected something of this individual by a given time and because it didn't happen, you in turn missed your target. Give examples of instances when this happened.

Hope this helps.



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 2:53:11 PM)

Would you also suggest that Penpen start documenting everything? Any suggestions about that if you do suggest this?



mvic -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 4:13:56 PM)

Thank you Covaan Meshuga for a great suggestion. I'd forgotten about keeping records.

Penpen should keep detailed records with times and dates when the individual's behaviour has adversly affected Penpen's output. If possible, also have witnesses - e.g. tell another colleague that the reason that you (Penpen) did not meet a target is because the individual in question was late with his input to the overall task. Then record that you told that colleague (time and date) about the incident.

Also, keep a separate copy of your written record at home. I've known a situation where management stopped an individual from entering the premises (after a serious accident); and whilst he was out they totally cleared his desk taking away written evidence that he had warned management several times of a risk situation.

Luckily for him, that individual had copies of the destroyed documents at home, countersigned by management, proving that they had been advised of a risk situation. These copied papers helped save him when the case got to Court.

Just because you have Christian ethics don't expect everyone else to be the same.



ConstantReader -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 7:31:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

These things usually take care of themselves and to say something yourself, would be counter productive.


Thou speaketh much wisdom, yea verily. [8D]



humbleinspirit -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/16/2008 9:27:02 PM)

I was in a situation in the past where a coworker would disappear on weekends for hours on end, leaving me with all the extra work to do. Then one day without warning the bosses did a check on who was coming in and out of the building. They found this coworker's time and and out to be unacceptable and fired him promptly.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/17/2008 8:39:28 AM)

Usta be the "company man". If it wasn't company policy or if it was wrong..I said something.

Two things happened...I made the people I work with mad at me...and I made the bosses I worked for mad at me.

I was raised on a farm and have a work ethic most people do not have. I also have my mom's temeperment...I wear my emotions on my sleeve. So when soemthing happens I would react.

Its not wisdom. Now you would figure your supervisor would want to know if someone was messing up...eh? Nope. As long as whatever is being produced is being produced, to bring up some problem to them...is asking them to do more work.

Same with blowing in your fellow employees. When push comes to shove, it will mean they have to do more work...and they will not like that.

This is the fact....if you are a good worker, you will do more work. You will do their work. You will do things above your own duties. The only alternative...is to become just as lazy as they are.

If you can't get your work done because of another's....inability or tardiness...when asked about it, tell them the truth. As long as it is the truth you shouldn't have a problem.



Penpen -> RE: Taking Advantage at Work (7/21/2008 7:06:25 PM)

Thank you all for your responses. I really took everything you all said to heart. The situation that happened with the employee leaving 4 hours early without charging leave is working its way to the surface. The manager found out that I could not complete my task and questioned me. I told facts and like one said, as long as it is the truth it is ok. I believe this manager will watch more closely. What bothers me so much is that this is stealing from the employer and this employee is a temp, and has been at this place of employement less than 2 years. I have worked there for over 20 years and always account for all my time. I feel now that people see more than we think they see. Thank you again for your posts.



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