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Concerto -> Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 8:44:21 AM)

"The A.M. radio host will be paid about $400 million to continue serving up his daily dose of conservative patter through 2016." NY Times

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I say, grab all you can get. This is a capitalist society, work hard, and if someone wants to shower you with unbelievable wealth, as long as it is legal and does not transgress the moral law, why not?

On the other hand, to see someone make this much while the truly important jobs--school teacher, firemen (and women), police officers, day care workers, etc., languish with wages that are weak, to say the least, is troublesome.

But then I remind myself, the reason why he gets so much is because millions listen to him. Interestingly, his commentary offers nothing that could be considered brilliant, new, unique, or revelatory in nature. There is nothing new under the sun.

I personally will not listen to his show for several reasons. One, I am at work when his show is on. Two, I do not wish to increase his wealth. Three, why should I listen to someone speak about things which I already know? I am quite capable of understanding the issues w/o so-called "expert" commentary.

I try (as best as possible), not to make millionaires richer by buying their goods and/or services.

C



Sophie11 -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 8:57:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Concerto

I try (as best as possible), not to make millionaires richer by buying their goods and/or services.


Quite a difficult task I imagine.



morningmike -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 9:12:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sophie11

quote:

ORIGINAL: Concerto

I try (as best as possible), not to make millionaires richer by buying their goods and/or services.


Quite a difficult task I imagine.


Yeah, I thought about that too last time I (partially) filled up my gas tank.[:@]



StephK -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 10:05:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Concerto

"The A.M. radio host will be paid about $400 million to continue serving up his daily dose of conservative patter through 2016." NY Times

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I say, grab all you can get. This is a capitalist society, work hard, and if someone wants to shower you with unbelievable wealth, as long as it is legal and does not transgress the moral law, why not?

On the other hand, to see someone make this much while the truly important jobs--school teacher, firemen (and women), police officers, day care workers, etc., languish with wages that are weak, to say the least, is troublesome.

But then I remind myself, the reason why he gets so much is because millions listen to him. Interestingly, his commentary offers nothing that could be considered brilliant, new, unique, or revelatory in nature. There is nothing new under the sun.

I personally will not listen to his show for several reasons. One, I am at work when his show is on. Two, I do not wish to increase his wealth. Three, why should I listen to someone speak about things which I already know? I am quite capable of understanding the issues w/o so-called "expert" commentary.

I try (as best as possible), not to make millionaires richer by buying their goods and/or services.

C



He must generate a lot of income for a lot of companies that hires a lot of people. If he didn't bring in the $$$$$$$$ he wouldn't get paid the big bucks.



Grace-N-Mercy -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 10:12:01 AM)

I don't know about this... but do you think he gets any kickbacks from politicians?? Or is it from advertisers alone?



rlj -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 10:22:30 AM)

You'd have to be a fool or hate money to not re-sign him. Love him or hate him he is $$$.



rcjames -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 10:43:12 AM)

The contract is just indicative of the number of folks that listen and the advertisers that want to reach those folks.

The liberal talk shown are folding and Rush gets a Million a week; you gotta love it as it is the Amrerican way; free enterprise.

Thsnks
RC

edited for spelling



StephK -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 10:52:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Grace-N-Mercy

I don't know about this... but do you think he gets any kickbacks from politicians?? Or is it from advertisers alone?


It's more than likely from the advertisers to be honest. I don't listen too often but when I do there are a lot of commercials.



Grace-N-Mercy -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 10:56:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StephK

quote:

ORIGINAL: Grace-N-Mercy

I don't know about this... but do you think he gets any kickbacks from politicians?? Or is it from advertisers alone?


It's more than likely from the advertisers to be honest. I don't listen too often but when I do there are a lot of commercials.


It just seems like $192,000 a day is a LOT of money to gather from advertisers alone. But then I'm not in this business so I dunno.



StephK -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 11:05:29 AM)

He has an audience between 14 -20 million weekly.

quote:

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/07/rush-limbaugh-4.html

First, the coming election results won't matter a whit to his ability to do what he does best: work up an outrage over politics. He's dissed both Obama and McCain in the past, so whoever wins, he'll still get to play the aggrieved victim. Second, the size of his listenership doesn't really matter. (It's been estimated at between 14 to 20 million listeners a week on 600 stations; in any case, no other radio personality comes close to his numbers.) For the last 20 years, he's had a loyal core of "dittoheads" who'll follow him whether his ideology is in the ascendancy or on the wane. A station that puts Limbaugh on the air figures it can build an entire slate of like-minded talk shows around him, figuring that if his listeners will come for him, they'll stay for the rest.

What's important, from an industry standpoint, is Limbaugh's ability to deliver those listeners to advertisers. In the fascinating profile of Limbaugh that runs this weekend in the New York Times (but is already available online), Limbaugh says that he's a businessman first, and his priority is to sell airtime. What's more, the big-ticket sponsors who advertise on his show know it's a friendly environment for a pro-corporate, consumerist message. "I consider myself a defender of corporate America," Limbaugh tells the Times. In other words, no sponsor ever need worry that its ad will appear alongside a rant about downsizing, pollution, price-gouging, or other corporate bad behavior. (This is also, conversely, one reason why liberal talk radio hasn't prospered: sponsors are afraid to support what they fear will be a hostile environment for their ads.)



rcjames -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 11:25:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: StephK
He has an audience between 14 -20 million weekly.


So that would make his salary ewuate to 5 cents per listener per week.

And that is cheap advertising.

Thanks
RC



Leon_Figg3 -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 1:35:18 PM)

rcjames,
Are you factoring in the number of times the "drive-by media" mention him, or make accusations about what they believe he has said?



TaoPoohBear -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 1:43:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: StephK

He must generate a lot of income for a lot of companies that hires a lot of people. If he didn't bring in the $$$$$$$$ he wouldn't get paid the big bucks.


Escort services & drug companies.
Also, trying to weasel out of alimony must keep alot of lawyers busy.
And then of course private transportation companies - biz-jets & limousines.
Golf courses (can't forget them!)



StephK -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 1:46:12 PM)

How he spends his money is not the same thing as how he makes money for his employer. [;)]



TaoPoohBear -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 2:00:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: StephK

How he spends his money is not the same thing as how he makes money for his employer. [;)]

You said - "He must generate a lot of income for a lot of companies that hires a lot of people."
I agreed by expounding on it.[:D]
Considering the hypersensitivity of conservatives, should I have included libel lawers (or just ALL lawyers)? And I completly skipped the ghost-written commentator & muck raking rumor mongering industry![:D]



StephK -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 2:29:14 PM)

I don't care one way or the other as far as how much money a company is willing to pay an employee. He makes Clear Channel a lot of money and evidently those advertisers are making a lot of money off of his show or there wouldn't be that big of a contract. Besides, I believe I read where Howard Stern made $500 mil for his contract with sirius.

As far as how he spends his money, it does keep the economy moving. He spends money, those people then spend money and on and on it goes. That is what makes the world go round for the most part. [;)]



tafkam -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 2:44:09 PM)

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I try (as best as possible), not to make millionaires richer by buying their goods and/or services.


Wow, what a classic case of wealth envy....



TaoPoohBear -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 2:52:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: StephK

As far as how he spends his money, it does keep the economy moving. He spends money, those people then spend money and on and on it goes. That is what makes the world go round for the most part. [;)]

And Rush is rounder than most.[:D]

He's an overpaid buffoon, and so is Stern.
I would much rather listen to classical music on the radio; If I want to be provoked, I can ask my teenagers (they'll gladly oblige). It astounds me in this day & age, with all the stress that can be in a person's life, how they will deliberately add to it by listening to "commentary" that is designed to provoke anger.

He who has knowledge spares his words, and a man of understanding is of a calm spirit - Proverbs 17:27



StephK -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 2:55:30 PM)

They both played their personalities to their most profitability. If nobody bought the goods then they wouldn't make the $$$$$$$$$$$ they do.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 3:16:07 PM)

I'll betcha he brings in much more than he takes.

Its called...business.

Government jobs are not usually money making businesses, hence the lower pay. Its called...public service.

If a teacher could promise the results that Rush gets, then I would say, they should go into private education where they can set a higher salary.

Like him or not Rush makes his employers and business partners a bunch of money. Same with sports stars and movie actors. It might seem insane, to some, that these people make that kind of money...but they also generate much more for their employers.'

It wasn't long ago that actors and athletes were not paid a lot of money while their employers made a ton. Now it is more equitable. Its just the nature of that business.

If you think some people make too much money, then become a communist.

No one promises you a life...or a fair one. If you want Rush's paycheck, go out and earn it. After you have earned that kind of money you can give away as much as you want to. Live in a trailor, drive a yugo and attend communist meetings.



tafkam -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 3:27:34 PM)

I'm wondering how many people who are so up in arms over Rush's salary would have no problem with a baseball player making millions per year or an actor making millions per picture.

Or is it just because Rush makes his millions doing something you don't like?



cybrjewls -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 3:34:12 PM)

Welcome to the 1/2 billion club Rush!


quote:

ORIGINAL: Concerto

"The A.M. radio host will be paid about $400 million to continue serving up his daily dose of conservative patter through 2016." NY Times

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I say, grab all you can get. This is a capitalist society, work hard, and if someone wants to shower you with unbelievable wealth, as long as it is legal and does not transgress the moral law, why not?

On the other hand, to see someone make this much while the truly important jobs--school teacher, firemen (and women), police officers, day care workers, etc., languish with wages that are weak, to say the least, is troublesome.

But then I remind myself, the reason why he gets so much is because millions listen to him. Interestingly, his commentary offers nothing that could be considered brilliant, new, unique, or revelatory in nature. There is nothing new under the sun.

I personally will not listen to his show for several reasons. One, I am at work when his show is on. Two, I do not wish to increase his wealth. Three, why should I listen to someone speak about things which I already know? I am quite capable of understanding the issues w/o so-called "expert" commentary.

I try (as best as possible), not to make millionaires richer by buying their goods and/or services.

C



TaoPoohBear -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 3:36:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

I'll betcha he brings in much more than he takes.

Its called...business.

If you think some people make too much money, then become a communist.

No one promises you a life...or a fair one. If you want Rush's paycheck, go out and earn it. After you have earned that kind of money you can give away as much as you want to. Live in a trailor, drive a yugo and attend communist meetings.


I would call it prostitution.

Calling people hateful names because you disagree with them?
You've learned his lessons well.



tafkam -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 4:04:29 PM)

So everybody that makes an extraordinarily good living is prostituting themselves?

Is that an argument you really want to stand behind?



rcjames -> RE: Rush Signs New Deal... (7/4/2008 4:47:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Leon_Figg3

rcjames,
Are you factoring in the number of times the "drive-by media" mention him, or make accusations about what they believe he has said?


No; just dividing in the number os listerners in a week (20 million) by the monies paid to Ruch in a week.

The fascination and fanatisism the "Drive by New media" shows just drives more listener to the show.

Thanks
RC



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