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AslansChild -> What to do? (6/30/2008 9:24:20 AM)

I have pretty much given in to the fact that Obama will be the next president. I see that there will be a strong racial divide in the election that gives Obama many votes just on race alone and add to that the liberals who are so anti Bush-Anti Republican that the groundswell is overwhelming. That being said, what are conservative Christians to do under his leadership.



Sophie11 -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 9:38:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AslansChild

I have pretty much given in to the fact that Obama will be the next president. I see that there will be a strong racial divide in the election that gives Obama many votes just on race alone and add to that the liberals who are so anti Bush-Anti Republican that the groundswell is overwhelming. That being said, what are conservative Christians to do under his leadership.


Well first of all, the election has not been held yet so don't be too sure.

Also, if he is elected I would say only a small percentage of his votes would be race related, but on the other hand he would also have a small percentage of people who will not vote for him based on race, so I imagine they would cancel each other out.

Now the flaming liberals are definitely not going to be voting for McCain. But some of that blame does rest on the republicans and conservatives (though I see no real conservatives in power at the moment).

If Obama is elected however, then I suppose we are just going to have to deal with it. The last thing I want to see is Obama become what Bush has become to the liberals. I myself will respect the office of the president of this country enough to refrain from getting as low as the dems and liberals have during the Bush presidency.



Evangel70 -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 9:41:01 AM)

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what are conservative Christians to do under his leadership.


How about doing what the scriptures call us to do and pray for our leaders? Why should it be any different than what "conservatives" do under George Bush's leadership.

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor." Romans 13:1-7



AslansChild -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 9:57:50 AM)

Evangel70,

Maybe my question should have been how do we prepare for "President Obama", other than prayer?



Evangel70 -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 10:26:50 AM)

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Maybe my question should have been how do we prepare for "President Obama", other than prayer?


While I do agree that Barack Obama will likely be our next president, I don't think he will change much of politics as we know it. We do not live in a dictatorship, so a president's power is limited. Despite his rhetoric of "change" most of Obama's proposals still need congressional approval and finance.

Whoever gets elected as president will have to deal with a mess in Iraq, increasing violence in Afganistan, what to do about the prisoners in GITMO, dealing with the worst deficent we've ever had in American history, an economy headed toward a recession, gasoline prices out of control and the need to rebuild America's reputation as a world leader. Despite the hysteria from right-wing talk radio, life as we know it won't change much under Obama's leadership.



Sophie11 -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 10:43:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Evangel70

Despite the hysteria from right-wing talk radio, life as we know it won't change much under Obama's leadership.


I think it's the democrats/liberals who are the ones guaranteeing change under Obama. The talk radio I listen to knows Obama of course cannot just do whatever he wants, but thinks he will not be able to handle the current problems well, that's all.



cow451 -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 11:00:26 AM)

Although, I plan to vote for McLobby, I do not see a way for him to win unless Obummer campaign implodes. The electoral map puts Obummer in a stronger position than the national polls indicate. McLobby also has to fight off the legacy of the last eight years of GOP leadership (or lack of it). Then there is the Barr factor.

And, Obummer is raising cash hand-over-fist. And the internet nutcase attacks against him keep focus off the real issues and galvanize his supporters. If Obummer wins, he should send a nice fruit basket (with nuts as well) to the hacks at WorldNut Daily.

That said, remember the local races for Senate and Congress and how it is important to avoid a Dem sweep. Again, the GOP is having to right itself and get back in the game.



fiat_lux -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 3:38:59 PM)

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That being said, what are conservative Christians to do under his leadership.

The same as you did under Bush, I should think. Our faith is solid enough not to be shaken by elections.



Leon_Figg3 -> RE: What to do? (6/30/2008 11:46:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AslansChild

Evangel70,

Maybe my question should have been how do we prepare for "President Obama", other than prayer?


Prayer, is of course the main thing, but other than that we need to get active in educating people locally and on the internet.

People need desperately to be educated about the realistic history of the country.

They need to be educated about the Constitution.

They need to be educated about the evolution of our politican system and how it needs to be turned around so that we focus more on individuals and issues instead of the political parties and the large sums of money it takes to get people elected to office.

They need to be educated about the ways media is used to shape public and political views instead of accurately,and fully,educating people about individuals and issues.



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