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Sophie11 -> Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/16/2008 4:58:29 PM)

Link to article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSN1634773920080616

I guess I'm still debating with myself as to whether or not I agree with this.




mapachito13 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 7:47:04 AM)

$ 100,000 a year to guard a dog? Where do I apply? I'll even pick up the poop! [:D]

BTW, you think the doggie guard is armed? Trained in martial arts to fend off all those gigilo canine gold diggers?




Sophie11 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 9:04:30 AM)

Yes, I would love that job too, especially since I'm a lover of dogs and cats.

Anyway, who do you think gets the money if the dog kicks the bucket before his money runs out? And HOW do you spend that much on a dog anyway?




Starbucks880 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 11:15:21 AM)

Sorry, I don't agree with it at all. If I have a 12 million estate, I shoudl be able to do what I want with it and if I would rather give my cat money than my family, I should be allowed that. Her grandkids must have done something to make her really angry if she would rather give it all to her dog than them. I don't necesarily think she was mentally unfit either--many accounts say how much she loved that dog and did more than most people would for any one animal, so it isn't far fetched what she did. It is just the kids who thought they would get money that would get them set for life and then bitter that they didn't get it. I don't think that just because you are family you deserve a cut of the estate. I am curious why she cut her family out, though. I still don't think they shoudl get a dime.




Kat_D -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 11:35:05 AM)

I don't find it surprising since the judge ruled that she was mentally unstable when she wrote her will. It also doesn't surprise me because it was....well, it was Leona Helmsley. Come on now, she never had a reputation for being rational.

Personally, I think anyone who leaves their inheritance to a pet is mentally unstable when there are so many "humans" in desperate need...but that's just me. I think we'll see a lot more of this now that society has begun thinking animals are on the same level as we are.[sm=kitty.gif]




Ps103 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 11:44:32 AM)

Winston sez:

Dogs do not care about money--that is a people thing. If she really wanted to cut her grandchildren out of her will and make a point, she could have left it to a charity. Like maybe the ASPCA or the Humane Society.

A dog would be happy if she just left it in the care of someone who would love it and take care of it.

Oh--and would the dog need a body-guard if she hadn't saddled it with 10 million $?

If I had ten million dollars, I would probably chew most of it up. I like to eat paper[sm=icon_smile_blush.gif]

Woof.




Kat_D -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 11:59:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Ps103

Winston sez:

Dogs do not care about money--that is a people thing. If she really wanted to cut her grandchildren out of her will and make a point, she could have left it to a charity. Like maybe the ASPCA or the Humane Society.

A dog would be happy if she just left it in the care of someone who would love it and take care of it.

Oh--and would the dog need a body-guard if she hadn't saddled it with 10 million $?

If I had ten million dollars, I would probably chew most of it up. I like to eat paper[sm=icon_smile_blush.gif]

Woof.


I love Winston...he's the best!

Kate, I showed my daughter his picture in your profile..."she thinks this is cute"... the other day and she cracked up![:D]




Ps103 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 1:04:19 PM)

Winston says to give her a big slurpy kiss[:D]




Sophie11 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 5:29:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Starbucks880

Sorry, I don't agree with it at all. If I have a 12 million estate, I shoudl be able to do what I want with it and if I would rather give my cat money than my family, I should be allowed that. Her grandkids must have done something to make her really angry if she would rather give it all to her dog than them. I don't necesarily think she was mentally unfit either--many accounts say how much she loved that dog and did more than most people would for any one animal, so it isn't far fetched what she did. It is just the kids who thought they would get money that would get them set for life and then bitter that they didn't get it. I don't think that just because you are family you deserve a cut of the estate. I am curious why she cut her family out, though. I still don't think they shoudl get a dime.


You know, this is the first thing I thought when I read the story too. I disagree with the family getting money when it goes against the will. I disagree with a judge being able to overturn someone's will, period, but especially to overturn it and award the money to folks who were purposefully not to get anything.

BUT, I do think leaving that money to a dog is crazy, so I can understand the judge saying she was mentally unfit to make that decision. I just think that the judge should have awarded the money to some charity or charities, and not to family members who are only bitter and greedy to be suing for this money in the first place.




Kat_D -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 5:37:33 PM)

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to family members who are only bitter and greedy to be suing for this money in the first place.


And you know that, how?

From what I remember about the "Queen of Mean," her family may deserve a medal on top of that money for putting up with her...

"Leona Mindy Rosenthal Helmsley (July 4, 1920 – August 20, 2007) was a billionaire New York City hotel operator and real estate investor. She was a flamboyant personality and had a reputation for tyrannical behavior that earned her the nickname "Queen of Mean", that image of Helmsley was sealed when a former housekeeper testified that she had heard Helmsley say: "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.", a saying that became notorious and identified with her for the rest of her life. She was later convicted of federal income tax evasion and other crimes in 1989 and served 19 months in prison (and two more months under house arrest), after receiving an initial sentence of 16 years."-Wikipedia




Sophie11 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 5:46:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kat_D

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to family members who are only bitter and greedy to be suing for this money in the first place.


And you know that, how?

From what I remember about the "Queen of Mean," her family may deserve a medal on top of that money for putting up with her...

"Leona Mindy Rosenthal Helmsley (July 4, 1920 – August 20, 2007) was a billionaire New York City hotel operator and real estate investor. She was a flamboyant personality and had a reputation for tyrannical behavior that earned her the nickname "Queen of Mean", that image of Helmsley was sealed when a former housekeeper testified that she had heard Helmsley say: "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.", a saying that became notorious and identified with her for the rest of her life. She was later convicted of federal income tax evasion and other crimes in 1989 and served 19 months in prison (and two more months under house arrest), after receiving an initial sentence of 16 years."-Wikipedia


Oh great here comes the nit-picking on such an unimportant topic.
I know who she was. I still think she has the right to do what she wishes with her money, whether her family feels they "deserve it" or not. Just because they are her family does not mean they are entitled to a paycheck when she dies. It seems to me that if one was not angry and bitter they would not care to take the time and recources to bring the matter to court, they would let it go. Anyway, maybe I should have put in my opinion after the comment in the previous post.




Ps103 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 7:14:47 PM)

If I recall correctly, Conrad Hilton left the bulk of his estate to his own charitable foundation, but his family contested the will and won.

I really do think a dog is a better heir than Paris Hilton....




Sophie11 -> RE: Judge trim's dog's $12 million inheritance (6/17/2008 10:40:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ps103
I really do think a dog is a better heir than Paris Hilton....


[:D] So true.




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