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PrudentWife -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 9:26:39 AM)

We don't do Hep B at birth, we wait 2 months. Everything else is pretty much on time.

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My niece is cared for at home by her mother, and she contracted rotavirus after she turned 1. It was absolutely awful. She's a petite girl to begin with, and rotavirus just decimated her. She got scary thin.

Watching her go through that convinced me it was worth the risk. We've pretty much vaxed on schedule for everything. Nathan only had a reaction to the 12 month shots, with a red knot in his leg and some fever.


We declined the Rota-tek with Reagan because we thought she was low risk too by being an only child not in daycare. She got the virus at church, and passed it on to me while pregnant. [:'(]

It was such an aweful experience we kept her out of the nursery for a year (that was the 4th illness she'd caught there), and researched Rota-tek again and chose to get Lincoln vaccinated.

Neither of my kids have ever had any reaction to vaccinations.



Mrs.X -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 11:03:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PrudentWife
We declined the Rota-tek with Reagan because we thought she was low risk too by being an only child not in daycare. She got the virus at church, and passed it on to me while pregnant. [:'(]

It was such an aweful experience we kept her out of the nursery for a year (that was the 4th illness she'd caught there), and researched Rota-tek again and chose to get Lincoln vaccinated.

That's so scary. My friend's baby got rotavirus at 2 months old, and he wasn't in daycare either. Not even at church.



Flintejae -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 1:31:37 PM)

Hearing those two stories makes me feel even better about getting Jadon vacc'ed.



solo_soprano22 -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 1:34:50 PM)

I understand the reasoning, shadow. I was saying that to make sure people know that having chicken pox doesn't necessarily make one immune to it. I see so many who think getting it once is all people need.

About getting it multiple times, it depends on one's individual immune system especially. Since it can lie dormant, something that compromises the immune system may let the herpes get out of countrol. I see that a lot in older people who end up with shingles. Other than that, I imagine exposure can cause multiple cases, and everyone is probably exposed to it in different rates and ways. People down here don't seem to get it more than people anywhere else; I don't really know of any outbreaks right now, even in schools, daycares, etc.



Karaboo2 -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 6:00:43 PM)

Solo, I am one of those people who contracted chicken pox more than once .... I had it three times, actually. The first time I was 6 (got me out of school for summer break a week early!) The second time, I was in high school, and the third time I had just finished up first year at college (I spent a bunch of time with my one professor -- we went to the gym together and everything -- and we both came down with those lovely spots) Even now, if you do a titer on me, it shows zero immunity to varicella.



Karaboo2 -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 6:03:40 PM)

Oh ... as for vaxxing for other things, my boys have all had really nasty reactions to the MMR, so until Ontario separates them into individual components -- and funds them like the others -- the kids won't be receiving any more of that!



nhgirl -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 9:25:16 PM)

When is the rotavirus recommended?

Addison hasn't had it yet (she's 16 mos) but I think I want her to have it. She doesn't go to daycare, but does spend lots of time with her young cousins.



PrincessDonna -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 9:50:14 PM)

Rotavirus oral vaccine is done at 2, 4, and 6 months. Because of lack of research, it should not be started after 3 months or completed after 8 months, according to The Vaccine Book.



macokjc -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/21/2008 10:10:24 PM)

Ha, Ha, NHGIRL, fancy meeting you here. I think that the new rotavirus vaccine came out just about the time that Addison was born. I'm not sure. When Bethany was in the hospitalized last year, the nurses said that it was a new version of the vaccine. That's why she never got it. I had never heard of it.



Flintejae -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/22/2008 12:15:16 AM)

Go Donna, my informant!

Yeah, part of the reason why I believe I'll do the DTaP, Rota, HIB, and PC is because of his contact with other kids - especially his cousins who seem to always be sick because of daycare.



Flintejae -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/27/2008 9:47:57 PM)

Okay so today I let them give my son the HIB, pc, DTaP, and Roto vaccination. It was extremely stressful. Extremely, but it's done. He handled it like a trooper! Whined a little, but that's it. Everyone, including the nurse, was surprised.

And, on a side note - he's ten pounds 12 ounces now! Exactly five pounds since he was born 11 weeks ago!



ChelseaRae -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/27/2008 10:53:23 PM)

Here is an interview with Dr. Sears about vaccines. If it doesn't work you can go to youtube and search 'Dr. Sears vaccine' and it will come up. I thought it was interesting.



EmilyAnn -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/31/2008 7:35:58 PM)

I just got the The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child by Dr. Sears yesterday. I also got a book called What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations by Dr. Stephanie Cave. I am reading the info on each vaccine in both books to help me decide. I have only read about the HIB vaccine so far. We will not be having David vaccinated against Hep B as a young child. We haven't decided on any of the others yet. David will not be in childcare or the church nursery. I hope to exclusively breastfeed him also. I think Donna's plan looks good, but Chris and I are still reading and discussing.



manda59 -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/31/2008 7:40:43 PM)

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I have only read about the HIB vaccine so far. We will not be having David vaccinated against Hep B as a young child.



Just to clarify Emily - that you do know that the HIB vaccine and Hep B are two different things?
(it's not clear from what you posted IMO)



EmilyAnn -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (5/31/2008 7:56:02 PM)

Yep. Sorry I wasn't clear. I didn't read the chapter about Hep B, but we know we won't be doing that one. I have read the chapters about HIB but we haven't decided yet.



Karaboo2 -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 8:32:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EmilyAnn
Yep. Sorry I wasn't clear.


Blame it on your preggy brain .... and then once the precious one arrives, you can use baby brain as an excuse for the next millenia! (I mean, we ALL know that pregnancy and delivery zaps brain cells ... why else could you know what nanosecond it is BEFORE you get pregnant -- and sometimes during pregnancy -- but the second baby comes, you can't even remember where you put your keys ... when they are IN YOUR HAND!)



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 1:16:49 PM)

I guess I should amend my schedule for Gabby, she hasn't had any vax's since like 4-5 months. Hmm. I think I'll do one more set of what she has already received and then have her titered. She won't be getting an MMR until she's 3 or 4, as those diseases are not really harmful in early childhood. I will however get an MMR booster for myself.



manda59 -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 4:45:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey
She won't be getting an MMR until she's 3 or 4, as those diseases are not really harmful in early childhood.



I remember being really poorly with measles when I was little. Can't remember how young I was though.

I thought complications with measles were quite common - even possibly going so far as pneumonia and encephalitis?



PrincessDonna -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 4:55:27 PM)

According to Dr. Sears, measles are most dangerous for those who are too young to be vaccinated for them anyway, and for pregnant mothers (and their unborn babies) without enough immunity of their own.

We're also waiting until after 3 for the MMR and then will probably separate them.

Ryanne, will you post your schedule, including what you've already done? I'm curious.[sm=flower.gif]



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 5:15:36 PM)

Hehe. Donna, I would have to go hunt down her shot record to give specifics, lol. I should be more on top of this since she's my first baby[8D][:D]

So far I'm pretty sure she had-

2 months- DTaP, PCV
3 months- HIB, IPV
5ish months- DTaP, PCV


We aren't doing Rota or Hep B. I'm thinking I'll do another HIB and IPV, then another set of each between 12-18 months and then she'll be done until we do the MMR.

What does the Dr.Sears book say about Hep A?



PrincessDonna -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 9:36:20 PM)

Your schedule so far is similar to the one I posted on the last page. Cool![:D]

Hep A...rarely recognized in kids because it doesn't affect them as badly as teens/adults. Passed when an infected person goes to the bathroom and doesn't wash their hands (mainly in daycares and restaurants[:'(]). If exposure is known in an outbreak, an antibody shot can be given within two weeks of exposure. Children in 3rd world countries get it very young and have lifelong immunity. Not given routinely to children until 2006. Definitely want to get it before any travel to 2nd or 3rd world countries...anywhere the water quality would be questionable would be a good thing to go by, IMO, because it can be passed through contaminated water also.

We'll wait until 11-13 for this one and Hep B, but will get it then because we plan on our kids going on missions trips with church.



Royal.Fortress -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 10:57:55 PM)

Alright, I've got a bit of a hard question, but I'm hoping that maybe someone in here will be able to point me in the right direction for some answers.

My sister is planning her wedding in Mexico in April of 2009. June Bug will be around 9 - 10 months old. I'm concerned about the health risks of traveling there with such a young child. If it was *early*, I wouldn't be concerned b/c I'd be exclusively bf'ing ... but at 9 - 10 months, I can't guarantee that June Bug won't be eating some solid foods - meaning that not only is contaminated water (ie. Hep A) an issue, but also potentially the bugs in water/food that made me sick for half the week for my other sister's wedding (Brad and I drank a bottle of Pepto while we were there ...). We're planning on delayed vaccinations, so June Bug won't have 'up to date' vaccines.

I'm not willing to vaccine on schedule just to go to Mexico, and am considering telling my sister that we just can't go. I don't know how serious the health risks are, though, for such a small one not being completely vacc'ed. What would you all do?



PrincessDonna -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 11:02:12 PM)

Wow...that is tough.[:o] I think I might find an American missionary in Mexico and ask them about it. See how they deal with the risk to their little kids, if they have them. That's my only thought...and I think there are a couple missionaries in Mexico here on forums, so maybe start there if you can't think of anyone.

Do you know how your doctor feels about delaying vaccines? If he/she is okay with it, they may have some good advice for you too. If they are against delaying, even if they are willing to do it, then their info probably won't be as useful.

If you do go, can you bring all your own food and drinks at least for the baby? That might be a solution...and some kids don't really eat much at that age anyway.



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 11:02:54 PM)

*I* would Vax like normal and take as much jarred/canned food with me as possible even though it isn't ideal at 9 months(or for anyone). Gabby is nine months now and really isn't drinking much other then formula and occasionally some water or decaf/unsweetened tea from a sippy cup. I would probably just nurse instead of offering any water. Really, Hep A would be the only thing I would be concerned about with an infant in a resort. It's not like your going on a missions trip and are going to be mingling with the local kids, ya know?



Royal.Fortress -> RE: Vaccination CHAT thread (6/1/2008 11:27:21 PM)

It's a pretty cruddy situation, eh?? I was thinking same as you, Ryanne, that Hep A is really the only issue, and if the babe wasn't touching the water or eating fresh foods and veggies, it wouldn't be an issue. I don't know if they allow jarred/canned food in luggage - I guess they'd have to?

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Do you know how your doctor feels about delaying vaccines? If he/she is okay with it, they may have some good advice for you too. If they are against delaying, even if they are willing to do it, then their info probably won't be as useful.


My doc has many people that *don't* vaccinate, but said that she's never heard of anyone to delay vaccinations - but she's willing to do it. She might have some good info ... maybe I'll ask my m/w, too.

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some kids don't really eat much at that age anyway.


I'm hoping this is the case, as it would eliminate my concerns! If babe was still exclusively bf'ing, I wouldn't even worry about it, but because we're not planning to feed cereal or canned food and do baby-led solids, it kind of makes it hard ... I don't want my precious little one eating lukewarm buffet food!! [:'(]



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