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CherishedbyGod -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (6/23/2008 2:49:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Heavendweller

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ORIGINAL: CherishedbyGod
Oh yes, He speaks through nature!

Indeed! The first time I saw the Grand Canyon, tears filled my eyes. What a wonderful artist our Heavenly Father is!

Heavendweller


When I first saw Bridal Falls at Yosemite, I asked Him if I could rule and reign somewhere like that georgeous place[:)]



CherishedbyGod -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (6/23/2008 3:02:04 PM)

Welcome to the forums, Leo[sm=wave.gif] That was an awesome post!

The past few days He has been particularly gracious to me in the way He has spoken.

A few days ago, He called me "My darling"...

And then the next day He whispered to me "My darling, well done thou good and faithful servant"...

And then, this morning, I was out pruning roses and He whispered to me "I Am the Rose of Sharon".

You talk about being swooned[sm=heart.gif][sm=heart.gif][sm=heart.gif]

In case any of you think I think I am super spiritual, I do not. I have just been desperately needy, recently...And He met me at my need as He always does...Don't we just love Him?



Leo71 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (6/25/2008 2:22:55 PM)

Thanks, Cherished. Yes, God is an awesome God indeed! I wouldn't still be in the land of the living if He wasn't. Looking forward to future conversations. God be with you all~



cheeky_monkey -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (6/26/2008 12:20:03 AM)

I believe God spoke to me clearly once when I was struggling to name our sixth child. I prayed and prayed for the perfect name for her because nothing I was coming up with made me happy. Finally, DH and I agreed on a name, but I just wasn't at all thrilled by it. Still, I continued to pray for the right name because the name we agreed on just didn't seem right.

One night as I was sleeping, God woke me up with the name "Lydia." I can't explain it exactly, but it's as if he shouted the name into my head. I was immediately woken up with not only the name "shouted" into my head but also with it in my head written as big white letters on a black background. I just knew that was God's way of answering my prayer.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean by "God speaking to individuals;" I'm just assuming it fits somehow.



soma77 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (6/26/2008 4:08:25 PM)

Thanks for the book suggestion. A book that helped me was "Evolution of Consciousness" by John Kuykendall

Tha site is Christian Mysticism



CherishedbyGod -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (6/26/2008 4:59:15 PM)

I am a closet mystic[;)]

But they called Tozier a mystic, also and he wrote one of the best books I have ever read:

"In this hour of all-but-universal darkness one cheering gleam appears: within the fold of conservative Christianity there are to be found increasing numbers of persons whose religious lives are marked by a growing hunger after God Himself. They are eager for spiritual realities and will not be put off with words, nor will they be content with correct "interpretations" of truth. They are athirst for God, and they will not be satisfied till they have drunk deep at the Fountain of Living Water"

For the entire book, please click below.

http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/tozer/5f00.0888/5f00.0888.c.htm



soma77 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/7/2008 9:05:28 PM)

Thank you, that is great news.



SamSpick -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/9/2008 2:03:51 PM)

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How would we know it's God?

This is a very good question and one I have pondered too. I came to the conclusion that the only way by which we may know if the supreme being speaks to us is if we were created by said being with the innate and unmistakable ability to perceive and authenticate the creator's voice. Therefore if any doubt exists, at all, then it is not the voice of God that speaks.

If it were otherwise we could not be held accountable for acceptance of false prophets/teachers/voices and our ultimate deviation from the divine morality.



soma77 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/14/2008 6:46:53 PM)

Sam I agree. We fight, kill and defend beliefs, but when we know that all ends and love begins.



DaveW -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/16/2008 10:16:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker

So, what would you say to that bishop that is strongly asserting that God told him this is the right thing to do....to marry his gay lover? What would you say to people who says God told him to leave their spouse, or that God promised them that they will be married, or that their kids will be a preacher someday?
First off, God DOES speak to us by many modes. Secondly, He will NEVER EVER EVER say anything that contradicts scripture. EVER!!!! (it may however contradict an incorrect intrepretation of scripture)

So, since the scriptures clearly say that same gender intimate relations are sinful, and it also says that God will never tempt us to sin, the bishop is clearly decieved. The voice speaking to him is one that tempts him to sin and that would be the devil.
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Isn't all this talk about God speaking to them in a tiny voice just a little too subjective?
It is subjective. And that is OK.

"Subjective" and "objective" are labels from a western logic framework that is extra-biblical. Holy writ uses a different logic framework that is more relational, more anecdotal, and much less abstract. It can be circular and can accept some apparent contradictions. It can allow for a great deal of diversity.

What it does not accept is violation of its commands and principles. Leaving one's spouse is a violation of the principle of covenant. Homosexuality is a violation of a direct command against that.

As to the other (future) predictions, that is something only time will tell if it really was God or not.



SamSpick -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/16/2008 3:27:44 PM)

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Sam I agree. We fight, kill and defend beliefs, but when we know that all ends and love begins.


Yes, there is no requirement of us that we should hate and kill for the sake of belief of this, that or the other. Yet all religions are guilty of, at some time, promulgating this very sin. Sad but very true.



Dan1138 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/20/2008 1:50:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: soma77

Sam I agree. We fight, kill and defend beliefs, but when we know that all ends and love begins.


Love begins when God finds you, you repent of SIN and TRUST Jesus to pay for your sins. There is one way to God, Jesus. Jesus said "I am the Way..."

Universalism serves the individuals need for religious passion. Yuck!



Ps103 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/20/2008 8:11:26 PM)

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conrack50 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/21/2008 5:23:43 AM)

Yes, I agree about our Heavenly Father speaking thru nature.
The first time we went to the Dakotas and I saw that it was like that statement ...God's Country.
I watch the hummingbirds at the feeder and see how wonderful God is.

I hear that small peaceful voice say..Be still and know I am God.(Ps. 46:10)
I have had Him speak thru scriptures, events,and people.
Learning to hear God is quite wonderful. To Him I give the glory.


Connie Lou



kmangel -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/21/2008 7:14:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker

So, what would you say to that bishop that is strongly asserting that God told him this is the right thing to do....to marry his gay lover?


We are to search scripture and determine whether or not what we "hear" can be backed up scripturally. If what we hear goes against scripture, then God hasn't spoken.

My very first message from God was "If you want Me to help you, go back to church." I was seeking God's help and this is what I heard Him say to me, so I obeyed and I'm glad I did. I can look to scripture and see that scripture backs up what I heard. If I thought God told me to never go to church, well, then I would have to question whether that was God speaking or someone else!



Preludeian -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/22/2008 12:27:12 AM)

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My very first message from God was "If you want Me to help you, go back to church." I was seeking God's help and this is what I heard Him say to me, so I obeyed and I'm glad I did. I can look to scripture and see that scripture backs up what I heard. If I thought God told me to never go to church, well, then I would have to question whether that was God speaking or someone else!


I wonder if you would of listened if he told you not to got to a certain church? Within your mind you ponder attending Such-n-Such church when you heard the word come to you, "Do not goto that Church". Would you follow the word or go not knowing if it was Him?



kmangel -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/22/2008 12:32:34 PM)

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My very first message from God was "If you want Me to help you, go back to church." I was seeking God's help and this is what I heard Him say to me, so I obeyed and I'm glad I did. I can look to scripture and see that scripture backs up what I heard. If I thought God told me to never go to church, well, then I would have to question whether that was God speaking or someone else!


I wonder if you would of listened if he told you not to got to a certain church? Within your mind you ponder attending Such-n-Such church when you heard the word come to you, "Do not goto that Church". Would you follow the word or go not knowing if it was Him?


My experience with God, in this instance anyway, has been He speaks in generalities. In other words, He didn't tell me which church to go to--just to go to church.

When my husband and I moved out of state, we were looking for a new church. Since I'd had my Word from God years earlier, I've been highly motivated to go to church, so we were in a new place seeking a new church. There was a very popular church just outside our subdivision. We attended a few other churches, but this closer church is the one we attended more than any other. However, neither my husband nor me felt moved to join the church. Something was holding us both back.

While searching for a church, we had visited a church that we both liked. We had only attended one time, but the church was in the process of building a new property several miles away. When the church first moved to it's new location we didn't bother to go. The church outside our subdivision was so much closer so that's where we went. However, I kept "seeing" the other church in my mind's eye. I kept questionning why we weren't feeling moved to join the church we were attending. Finally, God revealed to me He wanted us to visit the other church. We had been visiting the church we were closer to for about 2 1/2 years. Honestly, if we weren't feeling we were in the right church, why go there? Convenience was the only reason. So I suggested to my husband that he and I go one Sunday to the church several miles away. And that's where we are today. We were always meant to be there all along.

I think that as we come to experience God in our lives, how He relates to us individually, we can figure out a lot of what He's saying to us--even if it's not verbal.



beachcooky -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/25/2008 12:58:51 AM)

When I was in 5th grade, I had a gift of prophecy. However, I turned my back on God in 8th grade and that faded away. I'm back with God now and there are times when he tells me to go pray for someone. A month or two months ago (I'm not sure) we have this whole event at our church. There was this girl that I've never met, standing across the room. God put her on my heart. I didn't approach her, and I knew I should have. But I felt that God was telling me that she didn't have him in her heart. So I prayed and I prayed, and it grew stronger. I was about to go over after like an hour (haha) but then the sermon started. And the sermon was about accepting Jesus into your lives. And then I see that girl, going up to the altar to accept Jesus as her personal Lord and Savior. I mean, I believe that God can speak to individuals. There were many prophecies in the Bible.

God can give us message in many ways. I mean, his ways are unimaginable. We don't know what he's going to do, or how he's going to do it. All you can do is pray. Pray and seek after Him and he will reveal himself to you.



Dan1138 -> RE: God speaking to individuals.. (7/27/2008 11:15:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker

I often hear people how GOd spoke to them, or revealed to them about cetain things, decision, future events, etc. I have a hard time truly believing people when they say this because often times, I don't know in which manner God spoke to them. I guess God could speak to us invidividually if he chose to. But is this really biblical? I'm from the camp that believed God gave us his instruction for living and decision making through the bible, but why do a lot of people have to ask God to speak to them, or give them a personal revelation? And how would God do this? How would we know it's God? This is somewhat new to me.


How true Prairiehiker. People are full of lusts for self fullfillment. Even if God does speak to some individuals they would get lost in the experience. Some spend the rest of thier lives searching for this experience.

What you speak of is experientialism.



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