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kung_fu_sed -> NWO (5/2/2008 5:41:51 PM)
Check this out: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7CLMtXSlL-I Opinions?

NumberOneSon -> RE: NWO (5/5/2008 1:11:45 PM)
Stan Jones: "What I’m about to say is fact..." quote: "A constitution was drafted, but was rejected by a few of those nations. But never mind, they implemented it anyway." No, they didn’t. The constitution could not be implemented unless all member states ratified it, which wasn’t the case. A number of countries did ratify the constitution, but their ratification didn’t change anything…it wasn’t unanimous. Since Mr. Jones' speech, the EU has given up trying to rework the constitution. quote: "You will have a national ID card with a radio frequency chip in it. That’s already law in America, and will be implemented by May 2000." I hope he misspoke, because he gave that closing speech in Oct. 2006, and yet he clearly said “May 2000”. The Real ID act was supposed to be implemented on May 2008, six days from now, but it’s been pushed back until 2011. Around 39 states have already passed or are in the process of passing legislation opposing the plan, so good luck with that. quote: ORIGINAL: kung_fu_sed Opinions? Stan Jones needs to spend less time surfing conspiracy blogs, and more time working on a viable campaign for his party. NumberOneSon

kung_fu_sed -> RE: NWO (5/8/2008 4:23:30 AM)
"The Real ID act was supposed to be implemented on May 2008, six days from now, but it’s been pushed back until 2011." "Stan Jones needs to spend less time surfing conspiracy blogs, and more time working on a viable campaign for his party." I don't think it really matters WHEN the real ID is coming out. What matters is if you believe what the Bible says, and that you don't take the "mark." "And he causeth all ... to receive a mark in their right hand or foreheads, that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name...." Do a little research on the real ID and the RFID-chip, and you will find that these are both fit candidates to be the so called "mark." Pointing out that the release date of the ID was changed does not disprove anything. Watch this for starters: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo

Birdiecat -> RE: NWO (5/17/2008 8:22:22 AM)
I've heard that our new $20s/up carried a RFID chip. I've hammered my driver's license ... don't you dare laugh [:D] Clubs in Europe that have patrons who have a chip embedded in their hand so they can pay for their drinks, etc.! Who in the world would have a dadgum chip put in them? That's just crazy! As long as God knows what I'm up to ... that's all that really matters! I hate to see what's become of the world, especially the United States. It saddens me.

Dragonnie -> RE: NWO (6/9/2008 9:23:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kung_fu_sed I don't think it really matters WHEN the real ID is coming out. What matters is if you believe what the Bible says, and that you don't take the "mark." "And he causeth all ... to receive a mark in their right hand or foreheads, that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name...." Do a little research on the real ID and the RFID-chip, and you will find that these are both fit candidates to be the so called "mark." No, in the Revelation it says the mark is religious. "In the hand " means you obey it without believing. "In the forehead" means you also believe. See the link Below about the mark of the Beast.

kung_fu_sed -> RE: NWO (6/12/2008 7:26:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dragonnie quote: ORIGINAL: kung_fu_sed I don't think it really matters WHEN the real ID is coming out. What matters is if you believe what the Bible says, and that you don't take the "mark." "And he causeth all ... to receive a mark in their right hand or foreheads, that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name...." Do a little research on the real ID and the RFID-chip, and you will find that these are both fit candidates to be the so called "mark." No, in the Revelation it says the mark is religious. "In the hand " means you obey it without believing. "In the forehead" means you also believe. See the link Below about the mark of the Beast. Ah yes. Good ol seventh day advantists. No thank you.

Dragonnie -> RE: NWO (6/12/2008 11:58:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kung_fu_sed quote: ORIGINAL: Dragonnie quote: ORIGINAL: kung_fu_sed Do a little research on the real ID and the RFID-chip, and you will find that these are both fit candidates to be the so called "mark." No, in the Revelation it says the mark is religious. "In the hand " means you obey it without believing. "In the forehead" means you also believe. See the link Below about the mark of the Beast. Ah yes. Good ol seventh day advantists. No thank you. I'm not Adventist. Denominations are a violation of scripture. I'm with you--Adventism, no thank you. When asked how to have eternal life, Jesus quoted Deut 6, where G d says to keep all the 10 commandments and the moral laws of Moses.

WesP -> RE: NWO (6/13/2008 8:49:31 AM)
Just a little interjection: how would a physical object like a chip be unpardonable offense against God? I would think that it would be a rejection of Him much more than an object. That being said, it would not be a chip. It would have to be the premise behind a chip. Something on the order of --> take this chip in worship/submission to (insert name) or starve, die, etc. KWIM?

kung_fu_sed -> RE: NWO (7/12/2008 5:12:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WesP Just a little interjection: how would a physical object like a chip be unpardonable offense against God? I would think that it would be a rejection of Him much more than an object. That being said, it would not be a chip. It would have to be the premise behind a chip. Something on the order of --> take this chip in worship/submission to (insert name) or starve, die, etc. KWIM? Here's my theory: It's the decision that is made in the heart (if one submits to the system instead of God) that damns the person. Not just the taking of the chip itself. However, the chip also has it's own part in the damnation of the individual. The chip will take over the function of the mind. It will send signals to manipulate the person, and control his/her actions. Therefore, the person has no way to turn to Christ, as his/her free will would be "seized" via the chip.

Sophie11 -> RE: NWO (7/13/2008 12:50:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kung_fu_sed quote: ORIGINAL: WesP Just a little interjection: how would a physical object like a chip be unpardonable offense against God? I would think that it would be a rejection of Him much more than an object. That being said, it would not be a chip. It would have to be the premise behind a chip. Something on the order of --> take this chip in worship/submission to (insert name) or starve, die, etc. KWIM? Here's my theory: It's the decision that is made in the heart (if one submits to the system instead of God) that damns the person. Not just the taking of the chip itself. However, the chip also has it's own part in the damnation of the individual. The chip will take over the function of the mind. It will send signals to manipulate the person, and control his/her actions. Therefore, the person has no way to turn to Christ, as his/her free will would be "seized" via the chip. I would imagine that if the government was up to sending signals out to control the public it could probably already be done, and definitely wouldn't need the use of each person actually being injected with a chip. I hardly think RFID technology is about to create a world full of zombies. As far as submitting to the system? Sorry but we all already do that. Try not paying your taxes or driving without a license plate or building a house in a state park. Good luck. I'm sure you'd be "submitting" to the government's demands for you to cease such activity pretty quick.

vixir -> RE: NWO (7/15/2008 9:49:21 PM)
I've learned to ignore most of these videos that come from You Tube. But doesn't it say that those who receive the mark, know that it's the mark of the beast?

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