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Obama fans or not
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| He is like minded with Wright. |
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Obama fans or not - 4/30/2008 9:38:08 PM
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Hi, was wondering if the latest Wright scandal has changed your views on Sen. Obama? Please explain your reasons. Do you still think he will win? Thank You.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 4/30/2008 9:44:53 PM
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No, hopefully not. Wake me up when it is over. I personally think what happened with Wright helps BO, because now people are starting to feel sorry. I did for a slight moment. but I'm not buying it. Wright changed hisself after 71? years. I don't believe that.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 4/30/2008 9:49:11 PM
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Sorry light....I'm no "fan" of any presidential candidate. I save that for the Phoenix Suns and Az Diamondbacks. :)
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 4:29:41 PM
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I am not sure who I will vote for, but your poll seems to be more about what will happen that what you want to happen, so I answered that Obama will win. I think intrade has the probability at approx 60%.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 4:34:51 PM
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I don't personally beleive the Wright thing hurts Obamessiah much because at the core of his support is the same basic elitist hatred of America. They obviously don't see much wrong with what Wright says, besides, Wright is black, from a black neighborhood in Chicago so, no one can be critical because that is racist and we just don't understand.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 4:42:18 PM
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JW is not doing anything new. He has preached like that for years. It is just inconvient now for BO. I think he thinks the same way as him. BO voted against measures to put an end to gang violence in Chicago because it would target black people? So imagine an important piece of legislation needs signing does that mean he really be thinking of the good of the country?
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 6:10:36 PM
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How do you fiqure? I tried being fair in asking a whole range of questions, so no it is not my personal preferance in the questions I ask. With due respect your personal view of my post is an unfair judgement, I was wanting to know how people really felt. quote:
ORIGINAL: Random I am not sure who I will vote for, but your poll seems to be more about what will happen that what you want to happen, so I answered that Obama will win. I think intrade has the probability at approx 60%.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 6:22:50 PM
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I find it rather telling that poor John McCain isn't getting much love on any of the right wing talk shows, here on CW, nowhere. Sean Hannity talks about Obamawright non-stop and I think CW has set a record for the most anti-anybody threads EVER. I wonder about a party who thinks the only way their candidate has a chance is to make people afraid to vote for the other guy. So far, the GOPs whole campaign revolves around convincing people that Obamawright hates white people and hates America. It's working, considering McCain isn't a guy the GOP is really excited about and some of you have got to admit you're skerd to death of the prospect of having Hussein Farrakhan Ahab Obamawright and his evil wife, Michelle Jezebel, in the White House. Skerd enough, I believe, that some of you are praying that Hillary Clinton, the once hated Hillary, can somehow work a miracle and save us all from impending doom. I just think it's a shame because I think McCain is a real honorable guy and is the most qualified candidate, but nobody seems to care. I mean, if I claim to love my wife, but never tells her how beautiful she is but constantly talks about the "other woman", negatively or otherwise, how do you think my wife would feel? - Julius
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 6:48:23 PM
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Judge me Julius, thats fine, glad you know my thoughts better than I do.. If you read my post Hillary annoys me, McCain has the wooden eye effect, ( never mind) You know what ever , I had a hard day, think of me what you will. Your thought do not define me. quote:
ORIGINAL: saved9201 I find it rather telling that poor John McCain isn't getting much love on any of the right wing talk shows, here on CW, nowhere. Sean Hannity talks about Obamawright non-stop and I think CW has set a record for the most anti-anybody threads EVER. I wonder about a party who thinks the only way their candidate has a chance is to make people afraid to vote for the other guy. So far, the GOPs whole campaign revolves around convincing people that Obamawright hates white people and hates America. It's working, considering McCain isn't a guy the GOP is really excited about and some of you have got to admit you're skerd to death of the prospect of having Hussein Farrakhan Ahab Obamawright and his evil wife, Michelle Jezebel, in the White House. Skerd enough, I believe, that some of you are praying that Hillary Clinton, the once hated Hillary, can somehow work a miracle and save us all from impending doom. I just think it's a shame because I think McCain is a real honorable guy and is the most qualified candidate, but nobody seems to care. I mean, if I claim to love my wife, but never tells her how beautiful she is but constantly talks about the "other woman", negatively or otherwise, how do you think my wife would feel? - Julius
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 7:01:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon Judge me Julius, thats fine, glad you know my thoughts better than I do.. If you read my post Hillary annoys me, McCain has the wooden eye effect, ( never mind) You know what ever , I had a hard day, think of me what you will. Your thought do not define me. quote:
ORIGINAL: saved9201 I find it rather telling that poor John McCain isn't getting much love on any of the right wing talk shows, here on CW, nowhere. Sean Hannity talks about Obamawright non-stop and I think CW has set a record for the most anti-anybody threads EVER. I wonder about a party who thinks the only way their candidate has a chance is to make people afraid to vote for the other guy. So far, the GOPs whole campaign revolves around convincing people that Obamawright hates white people and hates America. It's working, considering McCain isn't a guy the GOP is really excited about and some of you have got to admit you're skerd to death of the prospect of having Hussein Farrakhan Ahab Obamawright and his evil wife, Michelle Jezebel, in the White House. Skerd enough, I believe, that some of you are praying that Hillary Clinton, the once hated Hillary, can somehow work a miracle and save us all from impending doom. I just think it's a shame because I think McCain is a real honorable guy and is the most qualified candidate, but nobody seems to care. I mean, if I claim to love my wife, but never tells her how beautiful she is but constantly talks about the "other woman", negatively or otherwise, how do you think my wife would feel? - Julius Sorry you had a hard day, but, what makes you think I was talking specifically about you? -Julius -
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 7:19:07 PM
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Thanks for the hard day pity, needed it. I feel attacked by everyone today, you know one of those days from hades. I am not gleeful in obama scandal, it saddens me, that we are divide in the Body of christ by race, something so stupid to be divided over, instead of issues I am just curious in an unoffical silly poll peoples insights, which I am teachable, so I like to see if anyone has wisdom in this case. quote:
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon Judge me Julius, thats fine, glad you know my thoughts better than I do.. If you read my post Hillary annoys me, McCain has the wooden eye effect, ( never mind) You know what ever , I had a hard day, think of me what you will. Your thought do not define me. quote:
ORIGINAL: saved9201 I find it rather telling that poor John McCain isn't getting much love on any of the right wing talk shows, here on CW, nowhere. Sean Hannity talks about Obamawright non-stop and I think CW has set a record for the most anti-anybody threads EVER. I wonder about a party who thinks the only way their candidate has a chance is to make people afraid to vote for the other guy. So far, the GOPs whole campaign revolves around convincing people that Obamawright hates white people and hates America. It's working, considering McCain isn't a guy the GOP is really excited about and some of you have got to admit you're skerd to death of the prospect of having Hussein Farrakhan Ahab Obamawright and his evil wife, Michelle Jezebel, in the White House. Skerd enough, I believe, that some of you are praying that Hillary Clinton, the once hated Hillary, can somehow work a miracle and save us all from impending doom. I just think it's a shame because I think McCain is a real honorable guy and is the most qualified candidate, but nobody seems to care. I mean, if I claim to love my wife, but never tells her how beautiful she is but constantly talks about the "other woman", negatively or otherwise, how do you think my wife would feel? - Julius Sorry you had a hard day, but, what makes you think I was talking specifically about you? -Julius -
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 7:26:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon How do you fiqure? I tried being fair in asking a whole range of questions, so no it is not my personal preferance in the questions I ask. With due respect your personal view of my post is an unfair judgement, I was wanting to know how people really felt. I'm sorry I upset you, although I'm not sure why you are upset. No part of my post is an unfair judgment, and I have no idea who you support or don't support. I am not sure I even understand what you are upset about. You have two options about him winning or not. One says "He will win" and the other says "He will not win." They do not say "I want him to win" or "I don't want him to win." So, I read that part of the poll as a prediction, rather than a preference, and that's how I voted. I was not judging you in any way, I was just answering the question you asked. I don't know who I will vote for, but my prediction is that Obama will win, so I answered that way, since that's what you asked.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 7:43:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature I don't personally beleive the Wright thing hurts Obamessiah much because at the core of his support is the same basic elitist hatred of America. They obviously don't see much wrong with what Wright says, besides, Wright is black, from a black neighborhood in Chicago so, no one can be critical because that is racist and we just don't understand. I think it's the exact opposite in many ways. It seems that the only thing truly African-American about Obama has to do with his skin color. He's a bit of an elitist, but I see him as the best alternative when it comes to things I think we can influence- the federal deficit, the trade deficit, and energy.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 8:07:50 PM
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I think it's the exact opposite in many ways. It seems that the only thing truly African-American about Obama has to do with his skin color. Now I agree there. Is the racist wright making people show their racism, yes. Do I think BO will win, yes because I believe he is Rev. 13, and there ain't nothing I can do to stop it. none of it, if this world desingrates into a racist war, I'm not gonna even defend myself. Not from a racist white or a racist black.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 8:20:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: saved9201 I find it rather telling that poor John McCain isn't getting much love on any of the right wing talk shows, here on CW, nowhere. Sean Hannity talks about Obamawright non-stop and I think CW has set a record for the most anti-anybody threads EVER. I wonder about a party who thinks the only way their candidate has a chance is to make people afraid to vote for the other guy. So far, the GOPs whole campaign revolves around convincing people that Obamawright hates white people and hates America. It's working, considering McCain isn't a guy the GOP is really excited about and some of you have got to admit you're skerd to death of the prospect of having Hussein Farrakhan Ahab Obamawright and his evil wife, Michelle Jezebel, in the White House. Skerd enough, I believe, that some of you are praying that Hillary Clinton, the once hated Hillary, can somehow work a miracle and save us all from impending doom. I just think it's a shame because I think McCain is a real honorable guy and is the most qualified candidate, but nobody seems to care. I mean, if I claim to love my wife, but never tells her how beautiful she is but constantly talks about the "other woman", negatively or otherwise, how do you think my wife would feel? - Julius Julius, you sound angry. There isn't much talk about McPain now because it is still in the primary season and the demmis can't seem to get their act together. When the primary for the Dems is over and they finally have their nominee, the attacks on McPain will be relentless. quote:
I wonder about a party who thinks the only way their candidate has a chance is to make people afraid to vote for the other guy. So far, the GOPs whole campaign revolves around convincing people that Obamawright hates white people and hates America. I take particular umbridge with this thesis of yours here because in some circles this is called "politics as usual"and as much as I am sure it pains most to see the poor black guy or poor helpless woman get raked across the coals it's only gonna get worse from here, so you may want to brace yourself if you are getting angry already. quote:
some of you have got to admit you're skerd to death of the prospect of having Hussein Farrakhan Ahab Obamawright and his evil wife, Michelle Jezebel, in the White House. Skerd enough, I believe, that some of you are praying that Hillary Clinton Why do you think this is??? Is it possible that we disagree with his marxist, lefty, elitist politics?? Is that too much for small minded conservatives to actually disagree with??? (edited for spelling- FON)
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 8:33:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature I don't personally beleive the Wright thing hurts Obamessiah much because at the core of his support is the same basic elitist hatred of America. They obviously don't see much wrong with what Wright says, besides, Wright is black, from a black neighborhood in Chicago so, no one can be critical because that is racist and we just don't understand. I think it's the exact opposite in many ways. It seems that the only thing truly African-American about Obama has to do with his skin color. He's a bit of an elitist, but I see him as the best alternative when it comes to things I think we can influence- the federal deficit, the trade deficit, and energy. Thanks blessedinnyc for making the exact point I was...BO is an elitist, and I was speaking of Wright being from Chicago, black neighborhood yada yada. But at the core of BO's support is the extreme elitist liberals and they don't care much about Rev. Wrights sermons because they don't disagree with him and wouldn't disagree with him because he preaches in a black church on the southside of Chicago and they won't speak out because, heaven forbid, they would be painted racist by their colleagues.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 8:58:26 PM
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There are lots of blacks talking about Wright. Sean Hannity had a good show on last night. He talked to a black preacher. The National Baptists have talked about it. Some times a black person is like a white person , they see color and that's it...............
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 9:13:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: tracydolls There are lots of blacks talking about Wright. Sean Hannity had a good show on last night. He talked to a black preacher. The National Baptists have talked about it. Some times a black person is like a white person , they see color and that's it............... Sometimes a black person is like a....white...person? Huh? "They see color and that's it" would this be all white people, southern white people, white people from Minnesota. Tracydoll, ya' almost had me vexed there for a minute but I could swear you don't mean what you just typed???
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 9:32:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon Thanks for the hard day pity, needed it. I feel attacked by everyone today, you know one of those days from hades. I am not gleeful in obama scandal, it saddens me, that we are divide in the Body of christ by race, something so stupid to be divided over, instead of issues I am just curious in an unoffical silly poll peoples insights, which I am teachable, so I like to see if anyone has wisdom in this case. I think that God can be perfectly happy with you if you vote for McCain. I think one of the problems with internet conversations is that it's sometimes hard to convey tone. As a result, it often sounds to one side or the other that the other person is taking a swipe at them. Often, we read people who disagree with us on forums as sounding angry. Perhaps politics isn't the best thing to discuss over the internet. That combined with the fact that a lot of folks online like to couch their words to convey tone, but Christians- especially when they feel their views are backed by the Bible- don't couch as much. Maybe it is time for us all to shut down the current events forum. I'm sure I'd like ljmac and TomTurn a whole lot more- and they'd probably like me a whole lot more- if there was some sort of ban on political discussions.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 9:39:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon Thanks for the hard day pity, needed it. I feel attacked by everyone today, you know one of those days from hades. I am not gleeful in obama scandal, it saddens me, that we are divide in the Body of christ by race, something so stupid to be divided over, instead of issues I am just curious in an unoffical silly poll peoples insights, which I am teachable, so I like to see if anyone has wisdom in this case. I think that God can be perfectly happy with you if you vote for McCain. I think one of the problems with internet conversations is that it's sometimes hard to convey tone. As a result, it often sounds to one side or the other that the other person is taking a swipe at them. Often, we read people who disagree with us on forums as sounding angry. Perhaps politics isn't the best thing to discuss over the internet. That combined with the fact that a lot of folks online like to couch their words to convey tone, but Christians- especially when they feel their views are backed by the Bible- don't couch as much. Maybe it is time for us all to shut down the current events forum. I'm sure I'd like ljmac and TomTurn a whole lot more- and they'd probably like me a whole lot more- if there was some sort of ban on political discussions. I don't know that a ban on political discussions is the way to go. But I certainly agree that taking a step back and know that God is in control. No matter what direction the candidates wish to take the country and whether we agree or not, the bottom line for me is that when I wake up in the morning, I have Christ on my mind and my wife and kids by my side. I'll lot God handle the rest.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 9:42:52 PM
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Sometimes a black person is like a....white...person? Huh? "They see color and that's it" would this be all white people, southern white people, white people from Minnesota. Tracydoll, ya' almost had me vexed there for a minute but I could swear you don't mean what you just typed??? don't swear. You know how there are white people that don't know one thing about Bo and don't care too,all they see is his color, or like there are black people that see McCain and don't know a thing about him, just see his color.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 9:49:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature Thanks blessedinnyc for making the exact point I was...BO is an elitist, and I was speaking of Wright being from Chicago, black neighborhood yada yada. But at the core of BO's support is the extreme elitist liberals and they don't care much about Rev. Wrights sermons because they don't disagree with him and wouldn't disagree with him because he preaches in a black church on the southside of Chicago and they won't speak out because, heaven forbid, they would be painted racist by their colleagues. I don't think there's anything elitist about Barack Obama's politics, and he's no more elitist than George Bush's- he regularly has closed door sessions with lobbyists he knew from Harvard, for example. If Obama were truly an elitist at heart, he wouldn't have spent three years as a lowly community organizer in Chicago after graduating from Columbia. If you go to a top-notch school (I didn't go to a fancy college, but I did wind up as a middle class kid at a very rich high school growing up), there is a tremendous pressure to graduate as a "success". At Columbia, that would entail getting hired at an I-Bank at the very least- if not a hedge fund or getting a job in Washington. Heck, I experienced that even at the state school I went to. He certainly could have gotten one easily if he had wanted to- he had interned in investment banking and received a job offer. At the very least, Obama had the wisdom to cut through all of that baloney- something most college students are too naive to do (including my college self.) If he is an elitist, he is a very wise one and a very long-term one. In order for me to like you, you just have to be wiser than you are arrogant, and I think that Obama's path to the Senate shows this is the case.
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RE: Obama fans or not - 5/1/2008 9:59:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: freakofnature Thanks blessedinnyc for making the exact point I was...BO is an elitist, and I was speaking of Wright being from Chicago, black neighborhood yada yada. But at the core of BO's support is the extreme elitist liberals and they don't care much about Rev. Wrights sermons because they don't disagree with him and wouldn't disagree with him because he preaches in a black church on the southside of Chicago and they won't speak out because, heaven forbid, they would be painted racist by their colleagues. I don't think there's anything elitist about Barack Obama's politics, and he's no more elitist than George Bush's- he regularly has closed door sessions with lobbyists he knew from Harvard, for example. If Obama were truly an elitist at heart, he wouldn't have spent three years as a lowly community organizer in Chicago after graduating from Columbia. If you go to a top-notch school (I didn't go to a fancy college, but I did wind up as a middle class kid at a very rich high school growing up), there is a tremendous pressure to graduate as a "success". At Columbia, that would entail getting hired at an I-Bank at the very least- if not a hedge fund or getting a job in Washington. Heck, I experienced that even at the state school I went to. He certainly could have gotten one easily if he had wanted to- he had interned in investment banking and received a job offer. At the very least, Obama had the wisdom to cut through all of that baloney- something most college students are too naive to do (including my college self.) If he is an elitist, he is a very wise one and a very long-term one. In order for me to like you, you just have to be wiser than you are arrogant, and I think that Obama's path to the Senate shows this is the case. quote:
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