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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/21/2008 6:49:01 PM
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lightshineon
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Not me, if I do a job it has to be perfect. It is hard that way sometimes though, my husband says I would clean a Gnats ( never mind TOS)
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I ask this question half-jokingly, because all my life, I have been told (at work) maybe other places that I take too long to complete tasks or do not work fast enough. My thinking is this is just how I am wired. I never really "got it" when in school and always needed extra attention. So I guess my question is do I need to speed up or do I just accept how God made me and find continue to cope with my handicap and eventually find a job that isn't so "production" based instead?
Mike,
It's just you're "wiring," I think. I never got the impression that you were stupid in any way. Meticulous and analytical are just ways people operate. There's nothing wrong with that. Some people just get in a hurry and do a poor job.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/21/2008 9:13:50 PM
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I ask this question half-jokingly, because all my life, I have been told (at work) maybe other places that I take too long to complete tasks or do not work fast enough. My thinking is this is just how I am wired. I never really "got it" when in school and always needed extra attention. So I guess my question is do I need to speed up or do I just accept how God made me and find continue to cope with my handicap and eventually find a job that isn't so "production" based instead?
Mike,
It's just you're "wiring," I think. I never got the impression that you were stupid in any way. Meticulous and analytical are just ways people operate. There's nothing wrong with that. Some people just get in a hurry and do a poor job.
Thanks Larry, the only thing is that they expect me to do an excellent job as well. I realized today that my boss has a real lot on his mind, and he kinda shoots off requests faster than I can handle them. For example, I have a routine that I do everyday, come in early, eat my breakfast, punch in, check voice mail, etc.
When checking voice mail, my boss already shot out a request before I was even off the phone. Then when I was about do do the first request he asked me to put an extra step in that as well. When finally doing that, he made another request in which I reminded him that a seperate job was due and needed to be packed by a certain time. He said do his next request first, but anyway. So my point is that things happen faster than I am comfortable with.
Praise God that my boss was more relaxed this afternoon! Today was a State Holiday (Patriots Day) while most places were still open, it was still much slower than usual.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/22/2008 6:19:34 AM
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I think it's worth pointing out that there is a difference between slow and methodical versus slow and unprepared.
For example, at the grocery store, if you wait in line for several minutes, then talk to the cashier while she's ringing up your stuff, and then only after she gives you the total do you start to look for your checkbook, that is being unprepared and people have more of a reason to be annoyed.
On the other hand, some people get out their checkbook while the cashier is ringing stuff up. Then they write the store name and sign the check, etc. Then when the total is known, they write the total on the check, AND they write it in the checkbook and subtract it from the balance. They may write slowly and methodically, but at least they are prepared and are not holding everyone up while they do the stuff they could have done while waiting in line.
Big difference. You sound like more of the slow and methodical as opposed to slow and unprepared.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/22/2008 9:55:42 AM
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Mike speaking as a supervisor I would prefer someone be slow and do the job and do it right than have two or three who were real fast but constantly having to correct things. My motto around here is if you do not have time to do it right, how will you ever find time to do it over?
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/25/2008 1:52:30 PM
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Personally, I don't believe we were designed by God to live at the pace we are forced into in this day and age. That's why I think so many people suffer from severe depression, anxiety and panic attacks...they just weren't built to go at such an accelerated speed and sometimes they simply breakdown as a result.
A car can go 100 mph, but if you drove it at that speed every day for hours a day, it would fall apart, wouldn't it?
Mike, think of it this way: Your slow pace is exactly right, it's the rest of the world that's off!!!
I agree 100%!
I do things slower than most people as well. Drives my soon-to-be-former boss nuts. If she's not doing 10 things at once and running all over the store, she's not happy.
One thing that gets to me is that employers want employees who are fast. They don't take into consideration accuracy, courtesy, etc. Makes no sense to me. What good is speed if it isn't efficient?
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/25/2008 2:51:14 PM
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There's a slogan that is popular around advertising agencies..."There's never enough time to do it right,but always enough time to do it over".
Yes. And in my years of working in the newspaper industry, I can tell you that this type of thinking really causes more problems for them than anything. Advertisers get very upset when their ads are wrong, they get a huge discount or a second ad for free and the sales person (who probably never saw the ad or the mistake) often has the money taken out of their commission.
We live in an "I want in now" society that allows very little to no room for human error. We aren't meant to live this way.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/25/2008 2:58:09 PM
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There's a slogan that is popular around advertising agencies..."There's never enough time to do it right,but always enough time to do it over".
Yes. And in my years of working in the newspaper industry, I can tell you that this type of thinking really causes more problems for them than anything. Advertisers get very upset when their ads are wrong, they get a huge discount or a second ad for free and the sales person (who probably never saw the ad or the mistake) often has the money taken out of their commission.
We live in an "I want in now" society that allows very little to no room for human error. We aren't meant to live this way.
I Think that was meant to be a negative statement of that line of thinking. I think worded another way is "If you don't have time to do it right, how will you find time to do it over." I may be mistaken but I think this is what sdj2008 was talking about.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 1:10:16 AM
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I think it's worth pointing out that there is a difference between slow and methodical versus slow and unprepared.
For example, at the grocery store, if you wait in line for several minutes, then talk to the cashier while she's ringing up your stuff, and then only after she gives you the total do you start to look for your checkbook, that is being unprepared and people have more of a reason to be annoyed.
On the other hand, some people get out their checkbook while the cashier is ringing stuff up. Then they write the store name and sign the check, etc. Then when the total is known, they write the total on the check, AND they write it in the checkbook and subtract it from the balance. They may write slowly and methodically, but at least they are prepared and are not holding everyone up while they do the stuff they could have done while waiting in line.
Big difference. You sound like more of the slow and methodical as opposed to slow and unprepared.
Hmmm, now that is a tough one. While it may not immediately come to me to think of doing that, I am sure that I would think of doing that within 2-3 minutes or so though. My problem is my boss thinks that I should be mutlitasking much as possible, but I tend to be "single-focused" though, where I do not "think" of doing task B while concentrating on task A at all. 
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 1:14:46 AM
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Mike speaking as a supervisor I would prefer someone be slow and do the job and do it right than have two or three who were real fast but constantly having to correct things. My motto around here is if you do not have time to do it right, how will you ever find time to do it over?
But the only thing with my boss's is that they want me to work both fast and accurately. Fortunately things have lightened up a little bit this week. I have to laugh a little bit earlier tonight. Just before leaving work, I was out on deliveries. When I came back my boss was locking up. He said "I thought you had left!" I said "No, I'm still here." I also said I still need to punch out as well. He said would you like to lock up then? I said sure.
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There's a slogan that is popular around advertising agencies..."There's never enough time to do it right,but always enough time to do it over".
Yes. And in my years of working in the newspaper industry, I can tell you that this type of thinking really causes more problems for them than anything. Advertisers get very upset when their ads are wrong, they get a huge discount or a second ad for free and the sales person (who probably never saw the ad or the mistake) often has the money taken out of their commission.
We live in an "I want in now" society that allows very little to no room for human error. We aren't meant to live this way.
I Think that was meant to be a negative statement of that line of thinking. I think worded another way is "If you don't have time to do it right, how will you find time to do it over." I may be mistaken but I think this is what sdj2008 was talking about.
Still working on speed and accuracy.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 11:00:24 AM
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humble is doing something perfect important to you? It is me, and sometimes it can be a curse. When I was a kid, if I erased a question we had to write off the board, and there was an erase mark on paper, I would chuck it, start over, no matter if I was on the last question. That is frusturating for me. I can make a shower shine, like no one else, or a floor, or keep house that sparkles, but, I cannot fast clean, I cannot do the basics, that is why I have a routine, which makes me accurate, but a bit faster, knowing what has to be done. It is all like your greatest strength can be your greatest weakness, kind of thing, if out of balance. The Holy Spirit is able to balance us, if we ask. I no longer tear up notes, because a smudge mark, though I admit it bothers me. I work very, very, hard also like it sounds like you do, so maybe learning to work smarter, not harder is something we need to ask the Lord to help us do.
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Mike speaking as a supervisor I would prefer someone be slow and do the job and do it right than have two or three who were real fast but constantly having to correct things. My motto around here is if you do not have time to do it right, how will you ever find time to do it over?
But the only thing with my boss's is that they want me to work both fast and accurately. Fortunately things have lightened up a little bit this week. I have to laugh a little bit earlier tonight. Just before leaving work, I was out on deliveries. When I came back my boss was locking up. He said "I thought you had left!" I said "No, I'm still here." I also said I still need to punch out as well. He said would you like to lock up then? I said sure.
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There's a slogan that is popular around advertising agencies..."There's never enough time to do it right,but always enough time to do it over".
Yes. And in my years of working in the newspaper industry, I can tell you that this type of thinking really causes more problems for them than anything. Advertisers get very upset when their ads are wrong, they get a huge discount or a second ad for free and the sales person (who probably never saw the ad or the mistake) often has the money taken out of their commission.
We live in an "I want in now" society that allows very little to no room for human error. We aren't meant to live this way.
I Think that was meant to be a negative statement of that line of thinking. I think worded another way is "If you don't have time to do it right, how will you find time to do it over." I may be mistaken but I think this is what sdj2008 was talking about.
Still working on speed and accuracy.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 11:09:46 AM
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Hi Light, now the whole perfectionist thing is a real struggle for me. I strive to do a good job, and yet at the very same time, I want to get the task done too. Its very hard for me to balance the two. When I work very fast, I am very much prone to make many more mistakes than if I take my time. Also, I seem to forget a lot too, so I find myself double and triple checking my work as well.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 11:55:41 AM
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me too. Kindered brain wiring. 
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Hi Light, now the whole perfectionist thing is a real struggle for me. I strive to do a good job, and yet at the very same time, I want to get the task done too. Its very hard for me to balance the two. When I work very fast, I am very much prone to make many more mistakes than if I take my time. Also, I seem to forget a lot too, so I find myself double and triple checking my work as well.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 1:11:04 PM
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No, they would not, production may, but would not be your boss, quality manager would. Production and quality are always at odds, but they need people slow, take their time. check mistakes. You are a quality managers dream employee.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 1:14:04 PM
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Hmmmm, interesting, the only thing is that I would have to "really know" the job in order to make sure that everything is ok.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 3:29:48 PM
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you are very bright, and would be trained and would learn, maybe advancing to quality manager yourself. it is a strength for you. automotive, medical device, computers ect.. pay really, well.
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Hmmmm, interesting, the only thing is that I would have to "really know" the job in order to make sure that everything is ok.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/26/2008 7:04:33 PM
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I was thinking of two things, Quality Control in a lab setting, very slow paced, details and and being accurate very important. Maybe, I should be a career counselor, what do you think? (lol), just joking. I am serious about this though. The Lord told us he would be our strength in our weakness. I believe this applies to more than our flesh nature.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/29/2008 9:26:37 PM
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Well, that sounds great, however I just had a snag in my QC process. Last evening around 5PM an attorney came into my work with a fairly elaborate copy job. My boss jotted down everything he said on notes, etc. Well I ended up being the person with the person copying this job, and logging it into the system, etc.
I was not the least happy about working overtime and only had these notes to work with. Well with the many "details" that I was told, I went on my way to complete this task. I took pain stakingly effort to make sure that the job was "perfect!" Still not happy with how things were going, I sped up the process a little bit, but not erring on quality for the most part. I finally got to a good point where I could leave work and pick it up tomorrow. BTW, this job was due at 10AM.
I came into work today and finished up what I had started. I 'fixed' a couple of last minute things that I thought would look better. The main boss questioned me as to why I was doing this? I told him because the other boss (who is lower in command) demands it.
Anyway, the lower boss comes in as I am packing up the job and he goes this doesn't seem right, where is the part with the white covers? Do'h! I had taking very great care on making sure that this job was just right and I missed one very important detail, a part of the job was supposed to be on white covers!
We all ended up scrambling getting this fixed to meet the deadline, In fact, it went past the deadline. Anyway, it finally got done and it got out the door.
Now here's the thing, when I rush, I almost always make mistakes! No one stayed to help me get this job done, and I didn't want to do it to start with.
In order to do a good job, I need to see a plain list in plain black and white for me to referrence. The problem in part was trying to decipher my boss's notes, however I should have known that one detail.
In the end I doubt myself, feel like my hard work was for not, and wonder if I will ever be good at "any" job that I may have in the future.
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RE: Is Being Slow A Sin? - 4/30/2008 12:17:03 AM
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a QC lab situation would be best.
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