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Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/22/2008 10:29:33 PM)

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In the same way, getting a job in the front-office of an I-bank is a better ticket to success than community organizing. Most front-office folks get into their MBA or law program of choice relatively easily- including Harvard (which is relatively easy to get into for non-thesis grad programs anyways- but that's another story.) Don't worry about me, though. Financial programmers don't work in the front office, so my grad degree will be from a state school.


It may be a better ticket to business success, but it wouldn't be a better ticket to launching ones political career from Chicago.




TomTurn -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/28/2008 7:42:44 AM)

Another Obama Marxist

Barack Obama has a thing for Marxists. He befriends them, listens to their counsel, and he even hires them to work in his campaign. And they seem to feel the warmth. President Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua, who led a revolution there in 1979, says Barack Obama's presidential bid is a "revolutionary" phenomenon, and Americans are "laying the foundations for a revolutionary change." A captured computer revealed that an unknown person chatted with Marxist FARC guerillas on Obama's behalf (they believed), stating he would be the next President and US policy towards Columbia would change. Frank Marshall Davis, a dear Obama friend and mentor was as a member of the Communist Party USA. Barack Obama just seems to attract Marxists.

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wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/28/2008 7:57:12 PM)

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A captured computer revealed that an unknown person chatted with Marxist FARC guerillas on Obama's behalf (they believed), stating he would be the next President and US policy towards Columbia would change.



How's that for a source :)


Let's see...of the umpteen thousands of people who potentially speak on "obama's behalf" how many are potentially speaking with Marxists? (eye roll)




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/28/2008 10:52:50 PM)

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Let's see...of the umpteen thousands of people who potentially speak on "obama's behalf" how many are potentially speaking with Marxists? (eye roll)


Well Obama is a pretty good buddy with Bill Ayers; I don't know how much more of a Marxist association one can have in an American contet.




wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/29/2008 1:07:20 AM)

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Let's see...of the umpteen thousands of people who potentially speak on "obama's behalf" how many are potentially speaking with Marxists? (eye roll)



Well Obama is a pretty good buddy with Bill Ayers; I don't know how much more of a Marxist association one can have in an American contet.



I'm a little surprised you would stoop that low Jack.


Or maybe it was Bill Richardson.....after all, he was down speaking with those marxist commie guerrillas in S. America over the weekend.




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/29/2008 8:43:28 AM)

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I'm a little surprised you would stoop that low Jack.

Or maybe it was Bill Richardson.....after all, he was down speaking with those marxist commie guerrillas in S. America over the weekend.


What is low about a factual statement? Obama has a relationtionship with Bill Ayers and his wife, who were noted leftist terrorists in the sixties, and members of The Weathermen. Even George Stephanopoulos noted it in the last debate, and he is certainly not biased in this regard..

Why would you want to avoid this fact?




wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/29/2008 9:38:16 AM)

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What is low about a factual statement? Obama has a relationtionship with Bill Ayers and his wife, who were noted leftist terrorists in the sixties, and members of The Weathermen. Even George Stephanopoulos noted it in the last debate, and he is certainly not biased in this regard..



Jack,

It's not the fact that he had a "relationship" with Bill Ayers....it's the implication that Obama is a Marxist because of that relationship...a point which you most certainly can not prove. I have relationships with many people whose views I certainly do not agree with...




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/29/2008 11:22:13 AM)

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It's not the fact that he had a "relationship" with Bill Ayers....it's the implication that Obama is a Marxist because of that relationship...a point which you most certainly can not prove. I have relationships with many people whose views I certainly do not agree with...


So you are saying if McCain had launched his political career from the home of the Grand Wizard of the KKK, that would say nothing about his political beliefs?




wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/30/2008 9:46:27 PM)

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It's not the fact that he had a "relationship" with Bill Ayers....it's the implication that Obama is a Marxist because of that relationship...a point which you most certainly can not prove. I have relationships with many people whose views I certainly do not agree with...



So you are saying if McCain had launched his political career from the home of the Grand Wizard of the KKK, that would say nothing about his political beliefs?



Of course it would. And McCain choosing such a venue is in no way comparable with saying someone had a "relationship" with someone and then implying they share similar views.




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/30/2008 11:24:19 PM)

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Of course it would. And McCain choosing such a venue is in no way comparable with saying someone had a "relationship" with someone and then implying they share similar views.


You seemed to miss the point here - Obama launched his political career from the home of Bill Ayers...its completely comprable




wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/30/2008 11:32:07 PM)

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You seemed to miss the point here - Obama launched his political career from the home of Bill Ayers...its completely comprable


Source?




tracydolls -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (4/30/2008 11:32:07 PM)

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You seemed to miss the point here - Obama launched his political career from the home of Bill Ayers...its completely comprable


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before 2004 Democrat Convention? you got link? they are just skimming the top, who else does this man know or run with? Is this Bill worse than Wright? [:'(]




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/1/2008 12:03:04 AM)

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before 2004 Democrat Convention? you got link? they are just skimming the top, who else does this man know or run with? Is this Bill worse than Wright?


It was before his '95 state senate run.

A couple of links:

Obama once visited '60s radicals

The Friends of Barack Obama, Part 1




wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/1/2008 12:16:18 AM)

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When Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer decided to retire in 1995, she hand-picked local left-winger Barack Obama as her successor. In order to introduce Obama to influential liberals in the district, she held a function at the home of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. This was, really, the beginning of Obama's political career, and it linked him forever with Ayers and Dohrn, with whom, as his campaign has acknowledged, he continues to have a friendly relationship.




Ok...so shall we start looking up every house party John McCain ever attended in his "coming out" days as a politician. I think not.




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/1/2008 12:18:36 AM)

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Ok...so shall we start looking up every house party John McCain ever attended in his "coming out" days as a politician. I think not.


Hey, if McCain was seeking political support from and serving on boards with terrorists, I would want to know about it.




tracydolls -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/1/2008 12:39:05 AM)

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“I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough,” Ayers told the New York Times in 2001.



This is........... fill in the blank. We need prayer.




TomTurn -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/1/2008 1:11:31 AM)

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Ok...so shall we start looking up every house party John McCain ever attended in his "coming out" days as a politician. I think not.


Why would that bother anyone here? He does not seem to be too popular. Sour grapes on your part.




wing2000 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/2/2008 9:43:43 AM)

Well Tom, I don't post here to "bother" people.

I do question the "guilt by association" line of thinking. I try not to judge any candidate based on appearances or speculation.

If any one can post quotes by Obama (in context) that shows he is a Marxist...I'm all ears. To date, none of his proposed policies even resemble Marxism. Liberal? Certainly. But I guess that label is enough for some here. Rather than address specific policy issues, it's easier to throw scary labels around....




Jhud -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/2/2008 10:54:05 AM)

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I do question the "guilt by association" line of thinking. I try not to judge any candidate based on appearances or speculation.

If any one can post quotes by Obama (in context) that shows he is a Marxist...I'm all ears. To date, none of his proposed policies even resemble Marxism. Liberal? Certainly. But I guess that label is enough for some here. Rather than address specific policy issues, it's easier to throw scary labels around....


Well, I don't think he would set up a Stalinist regime if he were elected President, but I do think if he had his druthers he would appoint someone like Ayers as Secretary of Education or some such.

Fortunately, the man seems to be running out of druthers.




TomTurn -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/3/2008 10:44:42 AM)

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I do question the "guilt by association" line of thinking.


I agree, but is a big differnence in getting your photo taken with someone and launching your campaign in their living room.

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If any one can post quotes by Obama (in context) that shows he is a Marxist...I'm all ears.


Taking much of what he (and his wife) says, they have those leanings and looking at their supporters, it backs up those leanings.

Anyway, from keeping from driving off the cliff, I pay attention to the warning signs. Do not need to see the cliff to know it is ahead.




rcjames -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/4/2008 9:56:28 AM)

I may be in need of an aluminum hat, but I see Obama as a real version of the "Manchurian Candidate".

For he is surely something other than he is presenting himself as.

Thanks
RC




ken1906_4 -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/4/2008 3:11:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

I may be in need of an aluminum hat, but I see Obama as a real version of the "Manchurian Candidate".

For he is surely something other than he is presenting himself as.

Thanks
RC


according to most of course he is.

I mean he's already a racists, anti-American, Marxist, Islamic manchurian candidate with a scarey name that would throw his white grandmother/bigoted pastor under the bus and attend the million man march in his quest to bring about the rise of the anti-Christ and the end of the world with the help of Muslim extremists named Farrakhan, Osama and Hussein.

I think that covers everything. [:D]




Closie -> RE: Obama's Marxism? (5/4/2008 3:54:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ken1906_4

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

I may be in need of an aluminum hat, but I see Obama as a real version of the "Manchurian Candidate".

For he is surely something other than he is presenting himself as.

Thanks
RC


according to most of course he is.

I mean he's already a racists, anti-American, Marxist, Islamic manchurian candidate with a scarey name that would throw his white grandmother/bigoted pastor under the bus and attend the million man march in his quest to bring about the rise of the anti-Christ and the end of the world with the help of Muslim extremists named Farrakhan, Osama and Hussein.

I think that covers everything. [:D]


You forgot to add in something about baby killing and affirmative action.




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