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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/11/2008 9:26:04 AM   
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Feel free to explain how this is right of the mark.
So what you're saying is that the new generation is godless, because of the fact they believe in evolution. Which means that the teachings of Jesus will die with your generation. Is that really what you're trying to say?


The Bible (the teachings of Jesus) are as strong as they ever have been, if not more. As a former atheist, your comment is an embarrassment for the belief system you're trying to espouse.

I advise you actually read and study the things which you have faith in. Because if you're goal is to engage Christians in debates regarding absolutes, matters of science and law, judicial probability, etc.. then it is only proper and good that you do so from an educated/informed standpoint.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/11/2008 9:28:40 AM   
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Which means that the teachings of Jesus will die with your generation


Well, the "sins of the father" are passd down because the fathers aren't passing down God's laws. Kat has it exactly correct and I'll even add that legalizing abortion I'm sure changed alot of thinking. Life isn't looked as precious and God giving so why should these teens care?

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/11/2008 8:09:08 PM   
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I had a job as a loss prevention manager for a large company several years ago. I used to get advice from our local police from time to time. During one conversation, the detective I was chatting with told me that earlier generations of criminals used to be able to be guilted into confessing because they knew what right and wrong was. But recent generations of criminals have no belief system of any sort, and truly believe that right and wrong is just something society or the people in charge make up. So they don't feel bad about what they did but only about getting caught because there is no right and wrong, merely choices that have to be made.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/13/2008 9:47:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Marcus.

I had a job as a loss prevention manager for a large company several years ago. I used to get advice from our local police from time to time. During one conversation, the detective I was chatting with told me that earlier generations of criminals used to be able to be guilted into confessing because they knew what right and wrong was. But recent generations of criminals have no belief system of any sort, and truly believe that right and wrong is just something society or the people in charge make up. So they don't feel bad about what they did but only about getting caught because there is no right and wrong, merely choices that have to be made.


I agree. Criminals today are a totally different breed and it's frightening.
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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/13/2008 12:22:35 PM   
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That is scary.


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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/13/2008 2:05:28 PM   
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In reading all of this (and with past job experiences), what I totally do not understand is how anyone can justify their actions, saying another person "deserved" the violence that was inflicted upon them. I've worked at prisons as well as with incarcerated youth - and sadly, I have to admit that they all wanted to justify their violent actions in one way or another. Marcus hit the nail square on with what he had to say - modern-day folks often have no belief system, one way or the other. What a scary world we are raising our children in! Unfortunately, the media tends to be the same way - always looking for the next big story without concern for its influence or ramifications (or so it seems).

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/15/2008 9:25:21 AM   
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In my opinion, the girls did this (particularly the videotaping and YouTubing) because it got them attention. They probably got lots of hits on YouTube and even better....made national news. Its being sensationalized, they got exactly what they wanted. I personally have a real issue with the news media's facisnation with all the YouTube segments, where is the real news? But thats another topic....


The media didn't pick it up from Youtube- the girls never got it posted- the police released it to the media.

I agree- as a mom of teens, this sickens me... but I know there were similar fights back when I was a kid... and I remember my mom talking about fights when she was a kid... so I don't think it is anything new.

SOOOO.... I was a little surprised to hear these girls might get life sentences (because of the kidnapping charge).

Again- it sickens me, they should be punished, but... life in prison? Seems a little much.

Tara P

You know, I kind of thought the same thing. Growing up I was involved in many fights, worse and bloodier than this and the only thing that happened to me or the other girls involved was grounded by parents or suspended from school. I'm not saying it's right but it happens all the time and has for as long as time has been around. Life sentences? Wow.

I wonder if it's because it caused such an uproar in society and the authorities don't want to look like they condone it or what, but again, wow.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/15/2008 7:48:49 PM   
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You know, I kind of thought the same thing. Growing up I was involved in many fights, worse and bloodier than this and the only thing that happened to me or the other girls involved was grounded by parents or suspended from school.


It was stated that the father could not even recognize his daughter's face she was so badly beaten.

I can't imagine ever being involved in something so horrific.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/15/2008 8:00:34 PM   
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Growing up I was involved in many fights, worse and bloodier than this and the only thing that happened to me or the other girls involved was grounded by parents or suspended from school.



Were you ever knocked unconscious for 30 minutes while you continued to be beat on, lost your hearing, etc?

The video that was posted was not the complete beating.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/21/2008 8:22:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 1love1God1way

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ORIGINAL: PrincessGiselle
Growing up I was involved in many fights, worse and bloodier than this and the only thing that happened to me or the other girls involved was grounded by parents or suspended from school.



Were you ever knocked unconscious for 30 minutes while you continued to be beat on, lost your hearing, etc?

The video that was posted was not the complete beating.

No but I've seen it happen. Sadly you're speaking to someone who grew up in a gang filled area. You aren't going to shock me.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 4/21/2008 9:19:16 PM   
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I am sorry to read that Princess Gazelle. It is wrong for that to happen to anyone, anywhere.

They do deserve to be facing life for kidnapping, holding this girl captive against her will. And so did the peers of your youth, if they treated any victims with the same violent disregard for their freedom and welfare.

Too bad they only got suspended. They deserved to face the full penalty of the law, and not a little hand-slap for violent criminal offenses.

How many of them continued to be violent after the slap on the wrist, I wonder?

< Message edited by shadowspring -- 4/21/2008 9:27:56 PM >


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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 5/3/2008 9:19:23 PM   
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This boy also has a very important message about stopping violence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ykDHB2OOg&feature=related

This boy touched my heart.

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 5/3/2008 9:43:28 PM   
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This boy also has a very important message about stopping violence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_ykDHB2OOg&feature=related

This boy touched my heart.


What's really heartbreaking is the rediculous comments people posted under this childs video. Is it any surprise stuff like this is happening with young people. Makes you want to keep your kids home. I guess the anonymity of the internet really brings out the stupidity in people. Sad. Truly sad .

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RE: CNN video: teenage girls beat up one girl, post vid... - 5/4/2008 8:00:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tinkerbell_

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ORIGINAL: SweetLittleErin
In my opinion, the girls did this (particularly the videotaping and YouTubing) because it got them attention. They probably got lots of hits on YouTube and even better....made national news. Its being sensationalized, they got exactly what they wanted. I personally have a real issue with the news media's facisnation with all the YouTube segments, where is the real news? But thats another topic....


The media didn't pick it up from Youtube- the girls never got it posted- the police released it to the media.

I agree- as a mom of teens, this sickens me... but I know there were similar fights back when I was a kid... and I remember my mom talking about fights when she was a kid... so I don't think it is anything new.

SOOOO.... I was a little surprised to hear these girls might get life sentences (because of the kidnapping charge).

Again- it sickens me, they should be punished, but... life in prison? Seems a little much.

Tara P

You know, I kind of thought the same thing. Growing up I was involved in many fights, worse and bloodier than this and the only thing that happened to me or the other girls involved was grounded by parents or suspended from school. I'm not saying it's right but it happens all the time and has for as long as time has been around. Life sentences? Wow.

I wonder if it's because it caused such an uproar in society and the authorities don't want to look like they condone it or what, but again, wow.


I wonder if the reason is because this is on video? If it's taped, no one can deny it happened or pretend it wasn't as bad as all that. If it wasn't taped, people who don't know how to deal with it can just chalk it up to teenage drama.

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