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StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 6:19:24 PM)

I did the WDW and went through a lot of medical issues that are not addressed often times in those "you are free to eat whatever your body craves" plans. I was not alone. You know how frustrating it was to gain 30 pounds on that program without cheating? Freedom for me is freedom from pain, cravings that are not normal, feeling well, health and then weight loss.

There are many different "Christian" based diets that are different from each other and so which one is the right "God" diet? Could it be that because we are all unique there is no one right way. I prayed for years to find freedom in this area and I was led to do whole foods and balanced diet. Jordan Rubin of The Maker's Diet is a good example of God answering his dietary needs that is 180 degrees different from what the other intuitive eating type diets say to do.



Jenny-Fair -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 9:56:22 PM)

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"you are free to eat whatever your body craves" plans. I was not alone. You know how frustrating it was to gain 30 pounds on that program without cheating?

Your use of the word 'cheating' makes it clear that you were never really free-there were 'rules' that you followed. Intuitive Eating is rule-free. I joke that the only food rule I have for my kids is, 'if you don't complain about the mushrooms, then you don't have to eat them' because basically, I didn't want to hear anymore mushroom-related whining, lol, when I made stroganoff or ordered a pizza. If you have a rule that you can only eat when you are at a certain hunger level, then that is not intuitive eating, that is a diet. If you have rules about food groups, portion control, or anything else, it is a diet. I am happy to be free from such legalism.

And, btw, finding out what your body disagrees with and not eating it IS intuitive eating.[;)] I have watched my blood-sugar-sensitive son do this exact thing. Is there a RULE that he can't have sweets on an empty stomach? Of course not...but due to his experience with having them, he realizes that he won't get a headache and be cranky if he makes sure to have some protein close to the same time. His little brother, on the other hand, can eat the food groups whenever he wants regardless of one another, but refuses to eat fresh pineapple because, even though he adores it, it makes his mouth break out. I have the same pineapple issue..but if it's really good, fresh, ripe, from Hawaii pineapple, I eat it anyway.[8D]

The other day we had a family dinner. My family is full of people with food issues--hence some of my own issues that I have been dealing with for the last 2 years. They really don't understand why my kids eat the way they do and why I allow it. I watched my boys-one took a piece of meat and nothing else. I think it was a bunless hamburger, but it could have been chicken. He went outside and ate it, and came back in and got some veggies. Took those outside, ate them, and came back in and got more meat. Ate that. The other boy took only peas. They are his favorite kinds-with pearl onions and butter. He took a plateful outside and ate them and came in and got a piece of chicken. He took it out but could not finish it. Unfortunately, there was no place that anyone would allow him to set his plate when he was halfway through his chicken and no longer hungry. 'Eat it or throw it away' was the edict his grandmother gave him, so he tossed it. SHE would have eaten it because she has a 'you must eat what you take' rule. THAT rule is the reason my little sister will eat herself sick. Fortunately my kids are not learning the bad rules that dieting of all kinds entails. They eat when they are hungry. They choose mostly healthy foods. They have no fear of food, and they are very healthy kids.

You don't have to christian-ize your dinner plate. You don't have to be a pious eater. All that is necessary is tuning out the food legalist voices and tuning in to the wonderfully and fearfully made body that God gave you. It isn't easy in this culture, but it is a simple concept.



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 10:32:49 PM)

My point was that I went through the program and followed the "rules" of the program and still gained 30 pounds. Yes, there are rules to those non-dieting approaches too. I waited for hunger and then ate what I was craving. Since I didn't know I had serious blood sugar issues the things I craved were foods that would quickly raise the blood sugar. The blood sugar rose and I was fine until the blood sugar crashed. That set up a vicious hunger/eating to just full cycle which led to other physiological issues. Since I have learned a bit about physiology and how insulin is the fat storing hormone I now know that I have to make sure that I don't start that cycle again. I can eat whatever I want but I will pay a price for some things and I'm just not willing to pay it any more. There is NO food worth feeling like I did when I was doing that program.

It wasn't what I needed because my body is wacky and the things I craved were the very foods that made me fat and feel like crud. Again, if you have found what works for you then congratulations. I do know what IE is since I've read that book too, the dietitians work people down to basically a low fat diet. That is disaster for my particular health. Again, there is no one perfect way of eating because we all have different needs. There isn't one right God diet, because there are several out there that have provided some people what they needed. One thing I have learned in the past couple of years of figuring out what I need to do is to accept what others need to do for their own health and fitness goals as long as it's not starvation or obvious plans that lead to eating disorders.



Jenny-Fair -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 10:40:19 PM)

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I do know what IE is since I've read that book too, the dietitians work people down to basically a low fat diet.

I have read the book three times and not seen a low-fat diet in it. I have also not seen any rules. No, not even the 'wait until you are hungry and eat until you are satisfied' rule. I think perhaps you saw the book through eyes still clouded by diet thinking.



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 11:02:07 PM)

It doesn't work for me. I've read the book. They don't call them rules but principles. It's all semantics.

ETA: Chapter 14, Principle 10 gentle nutrition based on the food guide pyramid.



SallyGee -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/28/2008 3:53:21 PM)

I have no problem with calling how I eat a "diet". Most people use the word when refering to wanting to lose weight. For me diet means an eating plan or goal I set to acheive, to lose weight.

There are many different reasons for wanting to lose weight. And that is the Key, you have to make up your mind and be ready to do it before you ever will. Every excuse in the world will be yours if you are not ready.

As many have said what works for one will not work for another. It has to be a plan that will work for you.

Like one of the other posters, I have a problem with sugar. You can be addicted to sugar and yes I was.
Any time you use a certain food/ or anything as a way of escape, it is an addiction. So that means to me some people really do have to cut out certain foods, just like an alcoholic has to cut out alcohol. If you have an addiction to food then it applies to certain foods, junk foods.

I also found out that the body utilizes white flour just as if it was sugar. Those two things raise your insulin level that gives you that "feel" good feeling. Then when you stop eating it you will crash, and need it again for that "feel" good feeling. That is what chocolate does for you.....right? That is also what a drug addict experiences.

It takes 3 days to get sugar out of your system, it will bring on withdrawl such as head aches, shakes you get the drift! If you have withdrawals doesn't that mean that your body is dependant on it?

That is where the Christian aspect comes in. God is the answer to kicking addictions. That is where you need God to help you. That is where the Holy Spirit comes in!

So, you see I also have no problem with a diet being called a Christian diet. I actually call my diet the
Holy Spirit Diet. And yes, people think that I am crazy, even christians come up to me to ask "how I lost the weight" and when I tell them from the help from the Holy Spirit, they ask me how I "really did it".

People are either ready to hear it and be doers or their not!

That is why I put on the full Armour of God every morning to help me resist the temptations of eating foods that are not good for me. The helmet really helps with my thoughts and the shield helps defend those
fiery arrows.

It really boils down to it being a spiritual battle and I know I have won, I win every day that I give
God the Glory for that "win".
I thank God for allowing me to experience those addictions because it enabled me to have a close and personal relationship with my Heavenly Father.

I have lost over 60lbs and have kept it off for three years, and with Gods' help it gets easier every day I just can NOT take my eyes off of Him.

God wants us to eat to live, not live to eat.......


sally



ofa23 -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/29/2008 2:19:01 AM)

Thin Within is a Christian based "diet" that I like. Intuitive Eating has the same basic principles but its not Christian based per se.



staychill -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/29/2008 1:29:07 PM)

i love this diet, it works too. but it only works if u do. u have to eat fruits and excersice , fruit is like a nautral chocolate, its sweet and it reduces the cravings for sweets that make u fat. and walk and do anything that gets u moving, it helps u burn calories to just wash the dishes and small stuff like that.



JesKlu -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (6/4/2008 3:09:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: staychill

i love this diet, it works too. but it only works if u do. u have to eat fruits and excersice , fruit is like a nautral chocolate, its sweet and it reduces the cravings for sweets that make u fat. and walk and do anything that gets u moving, it helps u burn calories to just wash the dishes and small stuff like that.


Hello,

Honey is also an excellent natural sweetener and it actually has health benefits, if the honey is raw.

And fruit is also very important also. I have the vegetables in my diet, but I should incorporate more fruits.

Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica



Visionary2 -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (6/25/2008 1:55:21 AM)

I haven't done this but a co-worker years ago lost a lot of weight over the summer. She said she took a class at her church. It was to just eat whatever you normally would but cut the portions in half. If you would drink even a coks, drink half of it. It worked for her.



Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (6/25/2008 9:04:02 AM)

I just read this, and plan on looking into it myself:

According to ‘Consumer Report’: “The best way to lose weight! Looking for a diet you can stick with and that actually works? We evaluated 8 of the most popular diets from Atkins to Dr Sears’ Zone and found a new diet winner --- The Volumetrics Eating Plan. It had the best weight loss of any diet we evaluated.”

Check it out HERE



Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (6/25/2008 11:03:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady

I just read this, and plan on looking into it myself:

According to ‘Consumer Report’: “The best way to lose weight! Looking for a diet you can stick with and that actually works? We evaluated 8 of the most popular diets from Atkins to Dr Sears’ Zone and found a new diet winner --- The Volumetrics Eating Plan. It had the best weight loss of any diet we evaluated.”

Check it out HERE

After reading what I could find, on google, I have to say --- [:'(]; looks like another diet for making a profit. And it doesn't look much different then what I already use, when I'm tempted to diet:

ICE CREAM DIET

FIRST DAY:
Breakfast:
˝ Grapefruit (I like Ruby Red), 1 slice toast, 2 Tbls. peanut butter
Lunch:
˝ Cup Tuna, 1 slice toast, coffee or tea or water
Dinner:
2 slices meat (3oz), 1 Cup string beans, 1 Cup beets, 1 small apple, 1 Cup vanilla ice cream

SECOND DAY:
Breakfast:
1 egg, 1 slice toast, ˝ banana
LUNCH:
1 Cup cottage (I like Axaelrod with pineapple) 5 saltine crackers
DINNER:
1 hot dog, 1 Cup broccoli, ˝ Cup carrots, ˝ banana, ˝ Cup Vanilla ice cream

THIRD DAY
Breakfast:
5 saltine crackers, 1 slice cheddar cheese (I eat American Cheese slices), 1 small apple
Lunch:
1 hard boiled egg, 1 slice toast
Dinner:
1 Cup tuna, 1 Cup beets, 1 Cup cauliflower, ˝ banana, ˝ cantaloupe, ˝ Cup vanilla ice cream

After 3 days of dieting, you can eat your normal foods, but do not overdo it. After 4 days of normal eating, start back on your 3 day diet.

REMEMBER—DO NOT PICK BETWEEN MEALS – DRINK LOTS OF WATER – OR DIET DRINKS OR SODA.

FRUIT VEGETABLES PROTEIN MISCELLANEOUS
Grapefruit Broccoli Cottage Cheese Ice Cream (Vanilla)
Banana Beets Peanut Butter Crackers
Cantaloupe Cauliflower White Meat Toast
Apples Carrots White Tuna
String Beans Cheddar Cheese
Eggs
Hot Dog

UNLIMITED
Water
Diet soda or drink

Salt & pepper may be used. NO OTHER seasonings.

This diet is 3 days on, 4 days off

I have No idea where it came from but My Aunt gave it to me over 30 years ago, after she lost 300 plus pounds and has kept it off to this day. I use this from time to time and it has worked for me every time; my problem is fixing '2' different meals (one for me and one for the rest of the family) at each mealtime --- this gets old fast.

Pat



DenimDiva -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (6/25/2008 2:47:17 PM)

My mother is a Seventh Day Adventist. She has been one for about 10 years. About 4 years ago she had a mild heart attack. She started following the diet her church recommends very strictly. She lost about 50 lbs, improved her heart health and her COPD.

I don't know that the SDA diet guidelines are necessarily Biblical though. I was at a function recently held by the SDA churches and there was vegan cheese and sour cream there. I don't recall reading about those in the Bible. [;)]

PraiseMoves is an excellent Christian exercise workout.



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