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Kat_D -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/3/2008 10:03:58 AM)

[sm=icon_smile_yikes.gif]Whoooooeeeeee! It sure got hot in here!!! Whoda thunk it would have happened in a thread on "Diets." Anywhoooo....

I think it is important to note that that the word can mean a lot of things:

DIETS: "Humans may alter their usual eating habits for many reasons, including weight loss, disease prevention or treatment, removing toxins from the body, or to achieve a general improvement in physical and mental health. Others adopt special diets for religious reasons. In the case of some vegetarians and vegans, dietary changes are made out of ethical concerns for the rights of animals." -Answers.com

It was obvious to me that the OP was looking for a weight loss diet and that word has taken on a dirty meaning with all the fads and gimmicks and dangerous diets so popular of late.

I agree with Jenny that short term, highly restrictive diets don't work. One may lose, but as soon as they stop, they often gain it all back plus more. Many continually yo-yo in their weight and it is proven that is more harmful to the heart and the health than just remaining heavy. People tend to go to extremes in their dieting (I know I have in the past) and that is never beneficial to the health. It has to be a lifestyle change.

Slow, steady, and healthy wins the race.[sm=thumbsup.gif]



HisCovenant -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/3/2008 10:19:30 AM)

I agree... depending on what you mean by "highly restrictive." If you mean things like the grapefruit diet or cabbage diet or Atkins in Phase 1 for months on end, I totally agree. If you mean eating habits that restrict junk food and support eating a disciplined, nutritious diet, I disagree. Restriction, discipline, knowledge, and wisdom in eating aren't necessarily bad things. As Jimbo says, those things are needed throughout life. We can't just give our desires free reign. That's what has made us (me) overweight. Knowing you, I feel that we would agree.

Some diets can be harmful- and they don't have to be for weight loss. The diets that have made America such an obese nation are definately unhealthy and have nothing to do with weight loss. It just drives me nuts that "diet" is a word that is taken out of context. It can mean an unhealthy fad... it can also mean a healthy lifestyle.



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/3/2008 10:32:57 AM)

Are you looking for a good Bible study dealing with the emotional reasons why you eat? There are several books that deal with that side of things. The one to steer clear of though is Weigh Down because Gwen Shamblin's theology is whack. A couple of good hunger/full books are Thin Within and The Diet Alternative. This approach works for many who don't have any underlying medical issues. There is some good information in both as far as understanding the hunger/full response. Intuitive Eating is similar but not based on the Bible. I've read it and it's got it's own little quirks that can easily become legalistic for some, just like any other diet. There's also an online program that has an excellent Bible study that is free. The Lord's Table works for many but the diet part for me was just not what I needed. What I want and what I need are two different things entirely most of the time. I have learned valuable insight from those books though so it wasn't a total waste. I don't do well on those diets because after a while all I want to eat is sugary foods because I have a malfunctioning insulin response. If you are looking for something more structured there are plenty of those books too. Christian Book Distributors has four pages of Bible based diets.

There is no one size fits all diet out there. We are all unique and have different needs. The key is to truly listen to your body's feedback and make the necessary adjustments. For me whole foods, balanced, nutrient dense and minimally processed is what makes me feel best and lose weight. I used to beat myself up because of never being able to get past the junk food cravings. It turns out that there were some underlying food intolerances, allergies and reactive hypoglycemia triggering those "emotional" eating cravings. When I finally realized that there was something physical going on and not just emotional it was easy to let go of those foods. Yes all things are permissible but not all things are beneficial. That was a key verse for me in learning to give up what I wanted because it really wasn't what I needed.



crm4souls -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/7/2008 2:56:53 AM)

A Healthy Lifestyle is the key! The diet means "habitual norishment", diet is what we eat spiritually, mentally, and physcially. The old addage garbage in, garbage out is true. We need to focus on spirit, soul, & body for a healthy lifestyle. When we say Christian diet, I think you mean what God is saying and His strategy. Once again, check out the Power 3 Diet if you want to change in your spirit, soul, & body. It's a biblical based diet for your spirit, soul, & body. It helped me change to a healthy lifestyle. www.power3diet.com

My plan is to be around for the grand kids and fulfilling all of God's plans for my life. To obtain this goal, I will have to live a healthy lifestyle.



mutinywxgirl -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/7/2008 3:19:53 PM)

The Lord's Table - through Setting Captives Free. I've done it - am doing it and it works. It's a heart issue.



NoDumbBlonde -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/10/2008 4:14:59 PM)

To me the healtiest "diet" regardless of whether or not you want to lose weight is one that is balanced with lean proteins, fresh fruits and veggies, plenty of water and moderate exercize. Giving up overly processed foods, drive through and all that junk we tend to shove down our throats is probably the best 1st move we can take. It's about gaining health not necessarily about losing weight. If you get healthier chances are you'll get closer to that ideal weight for you.

I don't know if you'd call is "Christian" but if you eat the foods that God provided and avoided the ones that man overly processes, you'll feel and look so much better.

Just my 2 cents. [:D]



fantom -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/11/2008 3:20:59 PM)

My wife and I did PRISM a few years ago with success.
It is in phases and and the first one is tough. No sugar, white flour or potatoes so it's tough.

Problem with sugar and white flour is the processing. If you don't take some time and eliminate totally, I have experienced, is you will crave it.

I read once that white flour is probably one of the worst things. Many people have a reaction to it that triggers other issues.

It is probably all but impossible to avoid it completely but it seemed once you kind of break it's cycle and really limit it, it loses some of its power.



charity7 -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/15/2008 12:34:02 PM)

You have to figure out the way your body works and eat that way--I figured out what raises my sugar and chanced those things----I eat a lot of vegies and fruit and natural foods --God didnt make twinkies! Eat food the way God made it--diets do not work! eating is a life style--Ive lost 80 pounds once I figured out how to eat!



Cloak -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/15/2008 4:02:58 PM)

Christian diet? That sounds funny even diets have to have a religion. I believe eating things the God's way is the best way to do that. For instance, if you can afford to have a garden, I would recommend you to use organic seeds since they are natural and no chemicals have been used on them.

I was listening to a Christian doctor who mentioned that we should try to do our best to eat organically.



jubee -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (4/28/2008 10:41:31 AM)

Have you ever tried going to a dietician or nutritionist? I have found them to be very helpful. My mom wanted to lose weight but she did not want to diet. Diets are temporary but healthy eating is long-lasting. The nutrionist just taught her about serving sizes and how to think-ahead about what she'll do when she gets a craving or hungry again. He gave her a list of things she could eat between meals and appropriate serving sizes for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I also went to a nutrionist and he suggested a blood type diet. Which is not a "diet" but a way of eating foods that benefit your blood type and avoiding foods that do not. I learned that I could probably benefit more healtwise by becoming a vegetarian who consumes mostly fish, beans, legumes, and vegetables and that my body takes a long time to digest meat protein thusly causing low energy and sleepiness after their consumption. I have found this to be true. I have been eating lots of fish over the past few weeks and I have not felt sleepy after I eat. If you are interested, here is a link:

http://www.drlam.com/blood_type_diet/

There are many views surrounding this but it could be helpful.

Take gentle care,

Jubilee



lanalounsbury -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/2/2008 2:19:04 PM)

I've really struggled with controlling my weight for the last 15 years. Ranging from crash/starvation diets to get into a bikini for a holiday to random binge/purge, general hopelessnes and giving up...gaining 30 lbs then losing it...you name it. I've never been clinically obese, but I would still say I had an eating disorder. You don't have to weigh 300lbs to have a distorted view of food!

All that being said. I've found freedom. And not in exercies, although I do enjoy a good hike or swim once in a while. And not in diets, or not eating "carbs", or points, or pills. I've found it in God. I know there is a lot of bad press about the so called Christian Diets. But my mom did the Weigh Down Workshop and I saw the joy and peace she finally had (after 45 years of struggling) with food and with her body and had to try it.

It's about letting go. Giving your worship back to God. Giving up the food and the binges...which is painful at first (Oh, I longed to eat the whole pint of ice cream once in a while) but as your heart turns from food and from your selfish desire to be pretty or thin or controlled or whatever the desire to fill that void with food decreases. Until. One day you realize you've got a 1/2 a box of smarties in your purse...and it's been there for 2 weeks...and you can go out to eat with all your friends and family and ENJOY food but can also leave 3/4 of the french fries on your plate uneaten with no desire to eat them because you're satisfied. And then you realize you haven't been sick for 6 months, and you can feel the will of God in your life, and that...gasp...you have joy.

You give God your extra food, and your stubborn will to stuff your face. And he turns around and gives you health, peace, time, your marriage and a fabulous body to boot. What else can I say? How great is that!



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/2/2008 2:50:16 PM)

Gwen Shamblin went over the deep end and into full blown heresy. The diet part is similar to Thin Within which is sound doctrinally as far as Bible studies go.



JesKlu -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/6/2008 1:31:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: grace2grace2008

I had no idea there was such a thing as a 'christian diet'.
But I eat clean(foods that are not fried and low in fat), snack on veggies, regular excercise, and eat a fair portion meal(no big meals, its a waste of calories).

I guess a christian diet then would be eating what you need, dont be a glutton and overconsume having so much food go to waste.


You seem to be on the right track. Just eat a healthy balanced diet and excercise regularly. Not that hard to do.

But I do have this book called "The Bible Cure." It seems to advocate a specific kind of diet, called the Mediteranean Diet.

But even Science says eating the Mediteranean Way seems to be the healthiest route to go. The Mediteranean diet is high in fruits, vegetables and seafood, and low in saturated fat, red meat and oily and greasy foods. But in the Mediteranean diet, there is a lot of Olive Oil used, which is very good for you. Seems like common sense, but not too many people here in America seem to care.

Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica



Single4Life -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/9/2008 1:09:45 AM)

No offense, but the phrase "Christian Diet" made me roll my eyes. [8|] I think people had good input here. You can get very basic and just cut out buying, eating, and cooking the things you KNOW are bad for you. Then eat what's good for you. A brisk walk in the great outdoors will do wonders as well!

I found a reference to a Biblical diet HERE that you can try. [sm=chef.gif] Yummy!



JesKlu -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/14/2008 3:15:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Single4Life

No offense, but the phrase "Christian Diet" made me roll my eyes. [8|] I think people had good input here. You can get very basic and just cut out buying, eating, and cooking the things you KNOW are bad for you. Then eat what's good for you. A brisk walk in the great outdoors will do wonders as well!

I found a reference to a Biblical diet HERE that you can try. [sm=chef.gif] Yummy!


Locusts, ewwww.

Can't imagine eating bugs.



tapestry -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/14/2008 7:38:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bry180

Just looking for experiences of others and what diets you have had success with? I do know God's plan is not for us to be struggling with weight. I think we all know we should be healthy, just looking for recommendations....

You don't need a diet. You need to eat sensibly, and exercise. Follow the food guide, walk, walk, and walk.
Get a couple of close Christian friends to be accountable to and to hold you up in prayer.



Christianiron.com -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 9:02:46 AM)

I recently took and passed my Personal Fitness Trainer certification, and though I've been Reading about all phases of fitness and training for about 30 years, this was a good learning experience. The idea was reiterated that "fad" diets are bad. No fat, no carb, juice diets, fruit only diets, etc, etc. Losing 2 pounds per week is great, more is usually unhealthy. Lots of small meals is better than 2 or 3 big ones. Building some muscle creates a better metabolism and you end up burning more calories even at rest. Biblical diet ideas? The Bible says all things in moderation, advises against gluttony and laziness. Certainly there are folks with emotional eating issues and physical issues such as low thyroid output.These things must be addressed first. Http://Christianiron.com



lanalounsbury -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 4:50:53 PM)

I have a real problem with calling foods "bad" and "good". Jesus declared all foods "clean" in the new testament and I don't think God would put chocolate and white sugar (both naturally occurring) on earth if it was wrong to eat them. Moderation is a concept that seems to be lost on North Americans.



tapestry -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:02:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lanalounsbury

I have a real problem with calling foods "bad" and "good". Jesus declared all foods "clean" in the new testament and I don't think God would put chocolate and white sugar (both naturally occurring) on earth if it was wrong to eat them. Moderation is a concept that seems to be lost on North Americans.

yes, but people turned what was good into bad. God did not make junk food.



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:06:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lanalounsbury

I have a real problem with calling foods "bad" and "good". Jesus declared all foods "clean" in the new testament and I don't think God would put chocolate and white sugar (both naturally occurring) on earth if it was wrong to eat them. Moderation is a concept that seems to be lost on North Americans.


Whole foods like they were before man started changing them into nutrient deficient junk is just fine. Some of the new fangled "food" products on the shelf is not something God made and a lot of people are discovering that they aren't really beneficial for them to eat.



lanalounsbury -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:08:55 PM)

But no one could say that, nutritionally speaking, eating 1/2 an Oh Henry bar harms the body in any way. In fact, it's downright enjoyable (gasp!). Praise God for chocolate bars! Why are we following all of the worlds rules and being so legalistic? Stay inside this parameter, eat this many times, this amount, these certain things, doing no less than this amount of exercise...kinda sounds like...

"Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence." Col 2:20-23



Jenny-Fair -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:14:45 PM)

Lana, I have been trying to explain that no food is evil, but they don't want to hear it[8|] I guess people feel like if they can restrict their eating that they have won something or done better than everyone else? Anyway, here's to Intuitive Eating, where the Food Police are silenced!



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:23:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lanalounsbury

But no one could say that, nutritionally speaking, eating 1/2 an Oh Henry bar harms the body in any way. In fact, it's downright enjoyable (gasp!). Praise God for chocolate bars! Why are we following all of the worlds rules and being so legalistic? Stay inside this parameter, eat this many times, this amount, these certain things, doing no less than this amount of exercise...kinda sounds like...

"Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence." Col 2:20-23


There are medical reasons for us to understand that even though all things are permissible, not all things are beneficial. Each person has to figure out for themselves based on the signals their body gives them and common sense what will work. For those who don't have medical reasons for their weight then sure portion control is the primary issue.



StephK -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:29:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair

Lana, I have been trying to explain that no food is evil, but they don't want to hear it[8|] I guess people feel like if they can restrict their eating that they have won something or done better than everyone else? Anyway, here's to Intuitive Eating, where the Food Police are silenced!


For those who don't have any underlying medical issues the IE method is just fine. I know I'm free to eat whatever food is out there but I also have finally figured out that there are some foods that make me sick. For instance, I know there is absolutely nothing wrong with eggs, I used to enjoy them until I figured out that they were the trigger food for migraines. The same goes for corn, beef, high fructose corn syrup, dairy, mangoes, etc. God helped me figure out that for me some things are off limits if I want to feel good and lose weight.

1 Cor. 6:12
"Everything is permissible for me" - but not everything is beneficial.
"Everything is permissible for me" - but I will not be mastered by anything.



lanalounsbury -> RE: Are there any good Christian Diets out there? (5/16/2008 5:49:05 PM)

Of course, obviously if you have allergies or are diabetic you have to stay within narrower parameters. I'm just challenging the "rules" of eating. I've seen/felt/lived the misery of dieting and obeying all the rules for 15 years and now that I'm free I just want everyone else to be as well!



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