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jfaye -> Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 12:47:51 PM)

I'm in and out very quickly today--busy, busy, busy, but I just received this link today
in my email:

Oprah's indoctrination--training in miracles!

Talk about 'anti-Christ' methodology!

I wonder if this will be moved from this forum--I hope it to have full exposure all over the forums!
Not that we can do anything about it--but it will be a 'heads up' to keep 'looking up' and praying
for her eyes to be opened to the truth and the lie from the pit she is part of perpetrating!

Wonder how 'Obama' feels about this effort and his identifying with her or vice versa?



deermousie -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 1:01:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jfaye
Talk about 'anti-Christ' methodology!


Smell the sulfur!

Jesus said this kind of thing would happen. People who don't believe in God will fall for anything. We need to be sharing our faith and living godly in front of the world. May God be glorified!



Catalpa -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 1:20:56 PM)

I've never watched the Oprah show, so I don't know why she has so much power over people....or on second thought, maybe I do. That whole "miracles" thing is so obviously demon-spawned. "New Age" is nothing more than re-warmed paganism, and shame on America for taking it in so whole-heartedly.

Share the Gospel, my friends, for the time grows short indeed.

Cat



jbow -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 1:22:36 PM)

Thank you for this.

I need to try to get my parents to understand. They are 90 and 91 and just eat up Oprah and Dr. Phil. They seem really surprised that I don't care for either one or for Joel.

I will copy some stuff and try, along with prayer. So many people are fooled by goodness. They think if someone is nice and say they are a Christian then they are.
This stuff is an abomination. It is the endtime.

J



Kat_D -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 2:17:02 PM)

As I've said before, I don't give a flying flip about anything Oprah Winfrey says; she lost me back when she called God a "she." Anyone who looks to her for their spiritual guidance/education deserves to be deceived. She's a television host for heaven's sake!

13 "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." II Corinthians 11

Hey Oprah, you should be shaking in your boots because one day you will have to stand before the living God and give an account for why you misrepresented Jesus and His Gospel and why you led so many astray. All your power and money won't help you then. He/she who has an ear let him hear.



KayleyKenzie -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 5:31:05 PM)

An email I received......



Subject: Important Message about Oprah!



This is an intresting development in Oprah's veiw of herself in this decade. She is now teaching a 'new christianity' based on the voice some lady heard while in a trance. Just because she is so well loved among many of your family and friends... this might give you a good heads up on her teachings. Of the New Age thoughts being taught: 'there is no sin', 'you are your own salvation', 'Jesus is just one of the many names of god', 'the cross was a worthless journey', 'you are god yourself'...

Read up.. it is the new best seller! As Satan makes another stab at Jesus Christ and His redemptive work on the cross.

It might not hurt you to check out the link on crosswalk as well.

In His service,
Pastor John Farnes

Read this!

'Oprah and Friends' to teach course on New Age Christ

Many of you, like me, have probably been Oprah fans for a long time. This is very discouraging news to hear about one who has such tremendous influence on the general public. Please ask God to show Oprah the real Jesus Christ.

Just to make sure this was true, I went on Oprah's website and there it is. The below article is very interesting, so I thought I would share.

Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:50 PM

Subject: Oprah joins false prophets Bible warned about

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/007/smith-oprahhtm or

'Oprah and Friends' to teach course on New Age Christ

Jesus Christ being reinvented, redefined, and blasphemed and, this false New- Age Christ teaching is about to make huge inroads into the world, with the help of the queen of television talk shows, Oprah Winfrey.

Oprah Winfrey, beginning January 1, 2008, on her daily radio program will offer a year-long course on the New Age Christ , in a lesson a day and completely cover the 365 lessons from the Course in Miracles 'Workbook.'

Listeners will be encouraged to buy A Course in Miracles for the year-long course, and an audio version, recited by Richard (John Boy
Walton) Thomas will be available on compact disc.

Those who finish the Course will have a wholly redefined spiritual mindset-a New Age worldview that include the beliefs that there is no sin, no evil, no devil. A Course in Miracles teaches its students to rethink everything they believe about God and life, and, bluntly
states: 'This is a course in mind training' and is dedicated to 'thought reversal.'

The Course in Miracles -in reality-is the truth of the Bible turned upside down.

Oprah told her television audience that Williamson's book, A Course in Miracles was one of her favorite books, and that she had already bought a thousand copies and would be handing them out to everyone in her studio audience. Oprah's endorsement skyrocketed Williamson's book to the top of the New York Times bestseller list .

A Course in Miracles is allegedly a 'new revelation' from 'Jesus' to help humanity work through these troubled times. This 'Jesus'-who bears no doctrinal resemblance to the Bible's Jesus Christ-began delivering channeled teachings in 1965 to a Columbia University Professor of Medical Psychology, Helen Schucman.

One day Schucman heard an 'inner voice' stating, 'This is a course in miracles. Please take notes.' For seven years she diligently took spiritual dictation from this voice that described himself as 'Jesus.'

Here are some quotes from the 'Jesus' voice of A Course in Miracles :

'There is no sin . . . '

A 'slain Christ has no meaning.'

'The journey to the cross should be the last ' useless journey.'

'Do not make the pathetic error of 'clinging to the old rugged cross.''

'The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol... It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray.'

'The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself.'

'The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation.'

Popular author Wayne Dyer told his PBS television audience that the 'brilliant writing' of A Course in Miracles would produce more peace in the world.

The Course in Miracles-based book, Forgiveness, continues to be sold in Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral bookstore as Schuller prepares to host a January 17-19, 2008, 'Rethink Conference' at his Crystal Cathedral



Dancre -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (2/29/2008 9:37:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KayleyKenzie

An email I received......



Subject: Important Message about Oprah!



This is an intresting development in Oprah's veiw of herself in this decade. She is now teaching a 'new christianity' based on the voice some lady heard while in a trance. Just because she is so well loved among many of your family and friends... this might give you a good heads up on her teachings. Of the New Age thoughts being taught: 'there is no sin', 'you are your own salvation', 'Jesus is just one of the many names of god', 'the cross was a worthless journey', 'you are god yourself'...

Read up.. it is the new best seller! As Satan makes another stab at Jesus Christ and His redemptive work on the cross.

It might not hurt you to check out the link on crosswalk as well.

In His service,
Pastor John Farnes

Read this!

'Oprah and Friends' to teach course on New Age Christ

Many of you, like me, have probably been Oprah fans for a long time. This is very discouraging news to hear about one who has such tremendous influence on the general public. Please ask God to show Oprah the real Jesus Christ.

Just to make sure this was true, I went on Oprah's website and there it is. The below article is very interesting, so I thought I would share.

Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:50 PM

Subject: Oprah joins false prophets Bible warned about

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/007/smith-oprahhtm or

'Oprah and Friends' to teach course on New Age Christ

Jesus Christ being reinvented, redefined, and blasphemed and, this false New- Age Christ teaching is about to make huge inroads into the world, with the help of the queen of television talk shows, Oprah Winfrey.

Oprah Winfrey, beginning January 1, 2008, on her daily radio program will offer a year-long course on the New Age Christ , in a lesson a day and completely cover the 365 lessons from the Course in Miracles 'Workbook.'

Listeners will be encouraged to buy A Course in Miracles for the year-long course, and an audio version, recited by Richard (John Boy
Walton) Thomas will be available on compact disc.

Those who finish the Course will have a wholly redefined spiritual mindset-a New Age worldview that include the beliefs that there is no sin, no evil, no devil. A Course in Miracles teaches its students to rethink everything they believe about God and life, and, bluntly
states: 'This is a course in mind training' and is dedicated to 'thought reversal.'

The Course in Miracles -in reality-is the truth of the Bible turned upside down.

Oprah told her television audience that Williamson's book, A Course in Miracles was one of her favorite books, and that she had already bought a thousand copies and would be handing them out to everyone in her studio audience. Oprah's endorsement skyrocketed Williamson's book to the top of the New York Times bestseller list .

A Course in Miracles is allegedly a 'new revelation' from 'Jesus' to help humanity work through these troubled times. This 'Jesus'-who bears no doctrinal resemblance to the Bible's Jesus Christ-began delivering channeled teachings in 1965 to a Columbia University Professor of Medical Psychology, Helen Schucman.

One day Schucman heard an 'inner voice' stating, 'This is a course in miracles. Please take notes.' For seven years she diligently took spiritual dictation from this voice that described himself as 'Jesus.'

Here are some quotes from the 'Jesus' voice of A Course in Miracles :

'There is no sin . . . '

A 'slain Christ has no meaning.'

'The journey to the cross should be the last ' useless journey.'

'Do not make the pathetic error of 'clinging to the old rugged cross.''

'The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol... It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray.'

'The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself.'

'The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation.'

Popular author Wayne Dyer told his PBS television audience that the 'brilliant writing' of A Course in Miracles would produce more peace in the world.

The Course in Miracles-based book, Forgiveness, continues to be sold in Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral bookstore as Schuller prepares to host a January 17-19, 2008, 'Rethink Conference' at his Crystal Cathedral


Oi!!! [8|] Why must everyone try to recreate Jesus??? Sigh . . .

kim



SonInMe1 -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/1/2008 7:59:07 AM)

Its hard to get people to worship you if there is another God.



caoimhin -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/1/2008 11:42:10 AM)

Oprah long ago hit on a lucrative formula: tell people what they want to hear while letting them feel spiritual about it.



pbracing33b1 -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/1/2008 2:22:07 PM)

The New Age revolution is not that new it has been around for awhile, I think it started in the 90's. But not 100% sure on that.



bluestone -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/1/2008 2:53:37 PM)

snopes is investigating the email rumor going around about this. I don't believe everything Ms. Winfrey says, but I don't believe 99% of what flies thru the email, either.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/1/2008 6:07:54 PM)

Gnostics were new age...its been around for thousands of years.



1love1God1way -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/2/2008 12:16:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kat_D
I don't give a flying flip about anything Oprah Winfrey says.


My thoughts exactly.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/2/2008 12:44:31 AM)

I would only concern myself with Oprah's ideals if they were emulated by christians.



crystalblue -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/3/2008 12:03:26 AM)

Just pray it gets exposed for exactly what it is. I know Oprah isn't a christian although she's claimed it. But whatever this latest thing is?? Time will tell.

quote:

Oprah long ago hit on a lucrative formula: tell people what they want to hear while letting them feel spiritual about it.


And this comes so close to the mark with some churchs too that it's just downright scary.

Edit:
(I originally said 'funny' but got convicted'.)



jfaye -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/3/2008 2:07:27 PM)

Here's Snopes.com's comment about this particular email:

Click Here: Snopes.com--Oprah's 'Miracles' Course



bluestone -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/3/2008 2:27:11 PM)

Sounds like scientology without Tom Cruise.



rileykins -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/3/2008 3:14:43 PM)

Hi pbracing33b1
I think it goes even futhur back than that..."yo, Eve, did God really say that...no you won't die, you'll be as gods." New Age is as old as the garden of Eden.

rileykins



ManimalX -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 3:23:36 AM)

May I recommend The Case for the Real Jesus by Lee Strobel?

Of course I may.

Go read it.



timf -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 7:36:37 AM)

Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'!

2 Timothy 3:5-7
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Have you ever wondered how people would "creep into houses" without the technology of television. There is something to be glad of, this is seen as an indicator of "last days" and may herald the quick return of our Lord.



conrack50 -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 7:49:34 AM)

I stopped watching her years ago when she began promoting "The Secret".
She's forgotten she was poor and came from nothing. She thinks she can do anything
and what's that saying..The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away.
She'll stand as we all will one day before God and then He will do what's according to her choices.
I'm not judging her, God will take care ofr that.
I just don't watch her anymore.



MickinEngland -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 7:52:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: caoimhin
Oprah long ago hit on a lucrative formula: tell people what they want to hear while letting them feel spiritual about it.


Ha ha ha yes, and the gullible masses lap it up -"They prefer teachers who only tell them what they want to hear" (2 Tim 4:2-4)



bluestone -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 8:40:50 AM)

I think Oprah is probably a kind person who is truly concerned about people around the globe. She is a hard worker. Spiritually, however, she is deceived, and in need of Jesus.



lightshineon -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 8:43:58 AM)

She used to be a Christian in the early years, but, know no, she is Spiritual. She does kind things, but, it will not matter in the end, without Jesus. btw, like your Blue stones avatar.
quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestone

I think Oprah is probably a kind person who is truly concerned about people around the globe. She is a hard worker. Spiritually, however, she is deceived, and in need of Jesus.



bluestone -> RE: Oprah's promotion of the 'new Christ'! (3/4/2008 8:50:16 AM)

thanks![:)]

We need to remember that Oprah is a talk show host. Not a preacher, scientist, or psychologist.



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