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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 9:56:22 AM
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Kath
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Reginald07
In your other post on this subject you said...
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What does the Bbible say bout men having hair, is it worng? In todays society, the standard has most definatly changed from the times of the Bible. So where does that leave us? It is also a growing, and well practiced fad, among young guys to have longer hair, but what does the Bible say anout it?
You said standard has changed, but do you have any clue how long hair was back in biblical times? Just curious. What do you think the Bible says? I remember reading how some men didn't cut their hair but I don't remember anything about how mens hair was short. and how short is short?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:02:20 AM
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We know from carvings, reliefs, and portrait that the Roman style of hair was similar to an average haircut today. That probably became the style as the Empire soaked up other countries and cultures.
carvings from other regions suggest long hair. Egyptians shaved their heads at one time.
Rule of thumb: hair is a style, not a standard.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:05:26 AM
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This is what the bible says about it.
I Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
Im not sure what they considered long back then, but I would think that if it were half way down their back that would definately be considered long.
Would that be your opintion or God's opinion? Should the church abide by your opinion or God's opinion?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:22:42 AM
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I had long hair when I was saved (I grew it out as an experiment, hated it and cut it short). I also had long hair when I was baptized.
Does this mean I have to get saved and baptized again, now that my hair is short? 
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:24:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: bluestone
We know from carvings, reliefs, and portrait that the Roman style of hair was similar to an average haircut today. That probably became the style as the Empire soaked up other countries and cultures.
carvings from other regions suggest long hair. Egyptians shaved their heads at one time.
But "the times of the Bible" span what, thousands of years? So which time is in question? Do we just assume "the times of the Bible" means the time of Jesus?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:27:01 AM
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We know from carvings, reliefs, and portrait that the Roman style of hair was similar to an average haircut today. That probably became the style as the Empire soaked up other countries and cultures.
carvings from other regions suggest long hair. Egyptians shaved their heads at one time.
But "the times of the Bible" span what, thousands of years? So which time is in question? Do we just assume "the times of the Bible" means the time of Jesus?
Very good question. I never thought about it, but when the term "biblical times" is brought up, that is the immediate assumption isn't it?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:31:58 AM
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when the term "biblical times" is brought up, that is the immediate assumption isn't it?
yes it is. But if you think about it, Biblical times span such a long time that I'm sure men had all sorts of different hair styles.
When the topic of hair and Biblical times comes up I always think of Sampson.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:33:03 AM
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when the term "biblical times" is brought up, that is the immediate assumption isn't it?
yes it is. But if you think about it, Biblical times span such a long time that I'm sure men had all sorts of different hair styles.
When the topic of hair and Biblical times comes up I always think of Sampson.
Which brings up a whole different topic, but...
I think Okami's answer was best. I wish I could find it, but right now I can't.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:38:13 AM
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Wow, go to work for a few hours and another legalism thread pops up and is already at almost three pages. How do these man made rules come to be seen as gospel? Why is it that for a very conservative guy I'm beginning to feel very liberal?
Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible.
I understand that you may not like some of the 613 laws of the Old Testament, but how do you sort through the commands of the New, into
a) need to keep
b) need to ignore?
You imply that God does not run a tight ship. If God, let us say, did give a dress code - short hair for men, modest apparel for all - why is the immediate reaction of some to resist, and in fact to find fault with the scripture?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:40:55 AM
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Which brings up a whole different topic, but...
Probably :)
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:42:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: zamdad
Wow, go to work for a few hours and another legalism thread pops up and is already at almost three pages. How do these man made rules come to be seen as gospel? Why is it that for a very conservative guy I'm beginning to feel very liberal?
Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible.
 You'll also not find "icecream," "electricity," "pantyhose," "trampoline," "vehicle," "DVD player," "computer," "cartoon," "interstate," "riding lawnmower," "chocolate cheesecake"
. . . and a plethora of other words in the Bible.
Doesn't mean they don't exist.
Just like legalism.
It does exist. Unfortunately.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:45:49 AM
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Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible.
There weren't many -ism's in 30-ish AD, so you have to search on some other words. "Pharisee" is maybe a good place to start.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:46:32 AM
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Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible.
I recommend a Bible search.
Paul said about himself before being saved, "as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless." -Philippians 3:6
He didn't seem too keen on himself before being redeemed by Christ.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:47:09 AM
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Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible.
There weren't many -ism's in 30-ish AD, so you have to search on some other words. "Pharisee" is maybe a good place to start.
Yep; that was my first thought, as well.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:48:18 AM
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ORIGINAL: zamdad
Wow, go to work for a few hours and another legalism thread pops up and is already at almost three pages. How do these man made rules come to be seen as gospel? Why is it that for a very conservative guy I'm beginning to feel very liberal?
Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible. And yet another person says a concept does not exist because the word is not in the bible. I am thinking "trinity" falls into this category. The word's not in the bible, but the concept definitely exists.quote:
You imply that God does not run a tight ship. If God, let us say, did give a dress code - short hair for men, modest apparel for all - why is the immediate reaction of some to resist, and in fact to find fault with the scripture?
How short? How long would be acceptable? Should we get out rulers and start measuring? And whose standards do we use since the bible does not give a length that's "too long" for a man's hair?
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:48:23 AM
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AAAAUUUUGHH! No, not again!
Please, someone link to the last million page terror and be done with this!
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 10:49:07 AM
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Did a concordance search for "legalism" - could not find it in the Bible.
I recommend a Bible search.
Paul said about himself before being saved, "as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless." -Philippians 3:6
He didn't seem too keen on himself before being redeemed by Christ.
If I could, I would 5-star this post.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 11:14:35 AM
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How short? How long would be acceptable? Should we get out rulers and start measuring? And whose standards do we use since the bible does not give a length that's "too long" for a man's hair?
How long is a piece of hair?
Since Paul appealed to nature, let us learn from nature.
When one's hair is short, one does not have to think about how one's hair looks, and it is basically maintenance free. It always looks OK. And you don't have to think about it any more. This leaves men free to do what nature intended them to do - bring home the bread.
And women having long hair, enhances what nature intended them to do. Ask any honest man - long hair looks good on a woman.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 11:14:36 AM
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I am wondering what the verse that was quoted, 1Cor11:14, meant in context.
Out of context it is a bit confusing. If we are to look to nature for hair length perhaps we should review the lion. Female: short hair. Male: huge mane.
Maybe the peacock. Female:short drab feathers. Male: long flashy feathers. (actually in the bird kingdom the male is the more flashy.)
In most mammals you cannot tell male from female by hair length. They tend to be fairly uniform between the sexes.
However, since it seems to be concerned with headdresses and such, maybe it was the method of displaying the length that was the problem. I am not sure, I am not a very learned bible scholar yet.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 11:23:10 AM
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And women having long hair, enhances what nature intended them to do. Ask any honest man - long hair looks good on a woman.
What nature intended them to do? I'm not touching that one.
HERE is a link to a post that IMO answered it perfectly. The men in Corinth that Paul was referencing had SUPER long hair (like to the ankles long). I first heard about this from a Southern Baptist pastor in reaction to one of the deacons telling me I needed to cut my hair (it came down between my shoulders).
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 11:28:12 AM
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How about instead of a "bible search" for verse numbers (that weren't put there by the original inspired writers) we actually read the whole bible for context and not just take a verse here and there and try to make it stand alone to make it say what we want it to?
Let's look at the Nazarite Vow - A part of it was to not put a razor to your hair. So, we can obviously (yes obviously because hair grows whether you want it to or not) conclude that having long hair wasn't, and isn't, a sin.
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RE: Should Men Have Long Hair? - 2/28/2008 11:34:49 AM
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Mullets are an abomination.quote:
A comb-over is much worse. Not as bad as a "snake over."
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