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daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/18/2008 9:13:36 AM)

Got it...and got it figured out, Lydia. I'll PM you with my link...even though there isn't anything happening yet. Imagine that...it's only Day 8.



firefightermama -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/18/2008 9:15:48 AM)

Hey girls, I saw a story on the news today that might be interesting to some...

Scientists find the gene that regulates ovulation



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/18/2008 4:32:34 PM)

Neat article, Yolanda. Thanks for sharing!



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/18/2008 5:15:12 PM)

I found out today that someone else I know is pregnant. I am happy for her/them... especially since they'd been "trying" for about 2 years...

but sometimes something in me wants to say "why not me Lord? why not me?"

I know that everything is within His timing, and everything works according to his plan.. and He does not want to 'harm' me in any way... sometimes it's just hard not to say, "why not me."



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 5:08:37 AM)

Yes, very interesting article!


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ORIGINAL: pumpkin

I found out today that someone else I know is pregnant. I am happy for her/them... especially since they'd been "trying" for about 2 years...
but sometimes something in me wants to say "why not me Lord? why not me?"

I know that everything is within His timing, and everything works according to his plan.. and He does not want to 'harm' me in any way... sometimes it's just hard not to say, "why not me."


I so understand you. It seems like I have the gift of encouraging pregnancy in others, but not in myself. Went we last went home (to America), my best friend, who wasn't even trying, got pregnant within weeks of seeing me again, and then when we came back home (to Latvia) my best friend here had they same thing happen! I'm surrounded by it, too, and in a culture that doesn't even get very excited about it... it's just a fact of life. So, while those around me are like, "Oh yeah, you didn't know I was pregnant again? I am." I'm like, "God! Come on!" and struggle with those same feelings... Why not me? When is it my turn? Then I try to remind myself that God is not a respecter of persons... He doesn't play favorites... He has a plan. But it's heard to remember, isn't it? *hugs!!!*



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 8:55:28 AM)

I hear you ladies and I know what it's like. It can be really hard to hear a best friend raving about her pregnancy when you're struggling to conceive. Just try your best to be supportive!! No matter how hard it is....and no matter how forgotten you feel (btdt).

My temps are continuing to rise. Is that a good thing? From what I've heard, it is...just seems kind of soon for them to be rising (day 9 today).

Okay, I'm out of here...big garage sale today...must go get busy setting that up. I pray it goes well.



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 10:29:24 AM)

Megan, can I see your chart? I'm curious how much they are rising, and if there's a pattern. Then I could tell you more. =)

Yes, day 9 is a bit early for higher temps (meaning that ovulation might have occurred) but you could just be having a shorter cycle or something this time.

I'm glad that you girls understand where I'm coming from. I mean, I'm not glad that you are *there* with me, because I know how much we all want to 'move on' from this stage, but I am very glad you can understand.



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 10:40:41 AM)

hmm... I just remembered a dream I had last night/this morning sometime. It was very real. Then when I realized it was just a dream, there was a little bit of a let down.

In my dream, I had just had a baby. I felt fantastic, and was wondering how long it had been since I had had the baby... because I felt so great. I was also home in the dream. David was trying to figure out what to do with our little pink baby girl, and I told him to put her in her seat, and let her watch him while he cooked or something. He did, and then she started screaming within a couple of minutes. He then said, "ok, I don't know what to do with her, no matter what I do, she won't stop screaming!" I said, "well, maybe she's just hungry again already..." then I looked at the clock, and said, "um, yeah, give her to me, she's hungry... it's only been... oh..... 5 hours since I fed her (sarcastically)" Then he said, something like yeah, I guess she would be hungry then. So he picks her up, still in her chair, and carries her through the messy madness that we currently (in reality) have going on, and wants to put her down in the chair and everything. I ask him where he's going to put her, and I have to stop myself from gasping as he raises her w/ the chair above his head, and starts looking for a place to put her. I say, "please, just hand her to me." He starts to, and I say, "no, without the chair please." Then he gets a slight attitude and says, "well, you could have said you didn't want the chair too when I first picked her up." I just looked at him like he'd lost his mind, he put her down, took her out of the chair, and handed her to me, then I fed her.
Then I woke up.
silly dreams!



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 1:38:25 PM)

[:D] I actually had quite a silly baby dream the other night... I dreamed we had a new baby, but in my dream, the baby's head was fairly normal/full grown sized, but the body was much smaller... odd, but in my dream that was totally normal. The baby was small enough to fit into a large shoe, which is what we used to swaddle him in. Very strange!

My temps are still falling but I should be O'ing soon. Odd... guess we'll see what happens tomorrow. [:)] Blessings and prayers for all!



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 1:51:01 PM)

Gina, I sent you a PM with the link to the chart.

I don't know why my body does anything it does. *sigh*

Anyone want to come to my garage sale? [;)]



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/19/2008 4:35:50 PM)

lydia, my temps are sometimes up, and then drop just before ovulation... dramatically. Then post ovulation they rise again. =)



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/20/2008 3:43:28 AM)

Megan, I would LOVE to come to your garage sale! It's a heck of a commute to get there, though. [;)] I miss that about Europe, they don't have anything like garage sales here... next best thing, 2nd Hand stores. Anyway.... how did it go?

Megan, I'm up somewhat today, so I think yesterday was my BIG day! (Temp and other signs.) Only time will tell. Good to know I'm not the only one with a "dip" before hand.

I saw this article today which made me go, "huh? Interesting." Some of the things they talked about were,
quote:

Dr. Christiane Northrup, an OB/GYN and author of Mother-Daughter Wisdom: Understanding the Crucial Link Between Mothers, Daughters and Health (Bantam, 2006) says, “The menstrual cycle governs the flow of not only fluids, but of information and creativity. We receive and process information differently at different times in our cycles.”

Northrup says the first phase of the menstrual cycle, the follicular phase, is often a time of high energy and creativity. Beginning on the first day of a woman’s period, the body is in a time of growth. The ovaries begin to ripen a few of the thousands of follicles that hold a woman’s eggs. Northrup says this often translates into a feeling of vitality and newness.


This TOTALLY fits me the last few days. I've had more energy & such a creative charge it's insane! "For some reason" I just had to pull out my scrapbooking stuff yesterday... the day before that, I was crocheting, something I haven't done in months... Very interesting, if you ask me.



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/20/2008 7:26:40 PM)

Yes, yes, that would be a HUGE commute to get here :) I'd rather go to a garage sale than host one. LOL...it's a ton of work! It went fairly well...made over $100...so can't complain too much.

That wouldn't surprise me about the rejuvenation thing. I tend to have a ton more energy after my flow finishes. It would be cool if yesterday was your day. Not sure when mine will be...only time will tell!



not_the_first -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/20/2008 7:57:48 PM)

Megan, I'm glad your garage sale is over, I'm sure it's a load off of your shoulders...ha ha.

Lydia, about that quote, I guess I don't quite feel like I have vitality or newness when I get AF, usually it's angst and major worn-outness!

well, my opk's turned out positive on Friday night and Sat. morning. I was relieved because I just didn't know what my body was doing. Turns out the prior spotting was another period. We "tried" on Thursday night, Friday night and Sat. morning.....so hopefully something will go right [:)]. Saturday night we visited DH's parents and were in the living room on an air mattress...so not gonna happen!

I don't have any advice about temps...it's been months and I have failed again to get on bored this cycle.



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/20/2008 10:07:44 PM)

Yay for a positive OPK, Noelle!!! Now for the 2WW. Praying for a BFP :)

Yes, it is a relief to have this garage sale over. Now to get rid of the things that didn't sale.



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 3:51:45 AM)

Woohoo for a good garage sale! I know, I hate to host them, though, too. We did a BIG one before we moved overseas last time... yikes. What a pain, but $100 is nothing to shake a stick at! Good job!

Noelle, I don't usually have vitality during AF either, but as O gets closer, it seems I do. Sounds like you have a good chance this month, though! :)

Very confused by my temps today... I had another dip... Hmm... I'm coming to the conclusion, and starting to accept, that this month will most likely not be our month, but just one to figure out once and for all what's going on. I really don't like these 50 day cycles, but since I'm at CD21 and have no clear sign of O, I'm guessing that's what it will be. *sigh*



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 8:41:26 AM)

Lydia, have you been to the doctor to see if it's PCOS or something else? I know one of the "classic symptoms" of PCOS is LONG cycles like you've been experiencing.

Ok....so FF puts O on Day 8. That's what my chart says with this morning's temperature. Say what? My temperature today is only a few tenths lower than what it was over the past couple of days.



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 9:19:22 AM)

that's because "a few tenths" is a BIG change in terms of charting. Most people don't have whole degree changes, just tenths.

At most I tend to go up and down less than a full degree. It's "normally" just a couple of tenths difference in temps. (like maybe 4 or 5 tenths different, but sometimes less than that)

*my temps are wacky this particular cycle due to those lovely pills I have to take this time.

Basically, just keep charting, and in the end, you should get a clearer picture.



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 10:19:34 AM)

I hope so, Gina, it's looking like a crazy picture at this time. Is it even possible to ovulate on Day 8? Oh and isn't it FF that kind of does weird things sometimes or was that another charting program?

Sorry to hear your cycle is so weird looking. I thought BCP were supposed to "regulate" hormones?

Oh....while DH and I greatly desire a baby....I can't imagine being as desperate (and cruel) as this woman.



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 11:33:50 AM)

Oh my word! How horrible! That woman must have been so... disturbed and distraught to go to such extremes!

Day 8?! That is odd. Hmm... but I agree... my temps don't change much, either. All my temps I'm sure about (not including the first 2, which I'm fairly sure are not accurate) are within .4 degrees F of each other. 10ths really make a difference. That said, I'm determined to figure out a way to buy a real BBT thermometer in Fahrenheit before my next cycle. Fahrenheit degrees are much smaller than Celsius. But still, day 8? Can stress bring on an early O?

No, I've never been checked out for PCOS. These long cycles have only happened (go figure) since we started TTC. (Had 2 so far... this would be the 3rd if it goes so long.) I actually wonder, in the back of my head, if I'm either not O-ing until the second half of my cycle (like I don't O when I should and it goes twice as long) or if I'm actually getting pregnant but can't carry it. I've never had a BFP on a test, but I also know some people have to have a blood test to find out. All that to say, no, I haven't been to the dr. It's a little more difficult to do here... not exactly the first thing on my list of "things to do with a translator," you know? But, if this one does turn out to be so long again, I may need to bite the bullet & investigate it. I'm really, really hoping though that this month is it. It would be my last chance to get pregnant before I turn 35, and I for some reason, that's kind of important to me. God?



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 11:40:26 AM)

I hear you on the becoming pregnant before 35, Lydia. My plan was to be done having children by 30. God seems to have other plans though (26 now so I have a few years, but always planned on having 3, 4, or more!).

And yes, it would be hard to explain all of that through a translator. Any idea when you'll be somewhere that you don't need a translator? Just asking as that would alleviate one part of the problem....

Day 8 seems way early to me. My temps have varied 1.1 since I first started temping....it was down .4 today.



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 11:48:22 AM)

I imagine the next time I'd be somewhere I didn't need a translator for something like this would be next time I got to America, in another year or 2, and I don't have insurance there. Hmm.

I did look it up online and of the symptoms they had listed, I only have these occasional long cycles, and I'm a bit overweight, but I don't have diabetes (I was just checked a few months ago as my dad has it now), no skin tags, no excessive/thick hair in strange places... nothing else, so I'm wondering/hoping it's something else.

The more I think about it the more I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and ask my friend here to go with me. I know she would, but it's still going to be odd... but that will be next cycle, if it continues.



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 12:03:23 PM)

Oh, I'm also considering getting a Clear Blue Easy FM. Has anyone ever used one before? Thoughts? Experiences? Are they all that they're hyped up to be? I'm thinking that at least then I'd know if I was Oing and when.



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 12:06:49 PM)

PCOS is a weird, weird disease in many ways....and hard to diagnose! You can read the discussion thread about PCOS here.

Forgot about the insurance thing. *sigh* That's a never-ending battle. So yeah, I guess you'll have to take your friend with you to help with the translation. That really does stink though. I have a hard enough time getting the doctor to hear me and take me seriously WITHOUT an interpreter. Are there any doctors that would speak English in the area? Just curious....I would definitely explore all options!

Guess we wait and see what happens with this cycle.



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (7/21/2008 1:35:20 PM)

Megan, I noticed on your chart (when I looked at it) that you had several temps that seemed to be white dots instead of blue... did you not get enough sleep those night or something? Because that can seriously mess with your temps, or if you were taking meds, or several other things.

I've not used a Fertility Monitor. Didn't want to pay the price for one. Charting (if done accurately) will also tell you when you are ovulating and when... so I just go with that.

It *is* possible to ovulate on day 8, but I would expect your period within about 2 weeks of that time. However, Megan, I don't think that your chart really shows ovulation.. just based on my own charting experiences. =) I would just keep going, and see what happens. Only time will tell.



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