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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/11/2008 9:16:23 AM
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pumpkin
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Noelle, I've definitely had moments like you had in church, where all it takes is someone (who you know cares) asking how you are, and you burst into tears. I actually had that happen with 2 people within the last 3-4 months... and both times it was about the struggling to conceive issues we were facing at that time.
What's funny? My nurse practioner doesn't hug everyone, and doesn't hug the same people all the time. She has hugged me one time prior to this... back when I told her that I would start the clomid treatments. Yesterday she looked at me, and I must have looked like I was going to cry, but I was *trying* (really hard) to hold it all together. She stopped, looked at me, and then said, "I know how disappointing this is, and I wouldn't blame you if when you got to your car you st..." and then she hugged me, and I really started crying. She grabbed me a tissue, and told me she understood. Then I had to go to the desk to make my appointment for next time. There I am dabbing my eyes, no one even looked flustered by it. =) I guess they're used to emotion there. =)
My doctor has his office within a hospital. I purposely wasn't going to go into the gift shop on the way out, although I pass by it. I happened to glance at it, and said, "no, I won't go in today, I'll just..." then this thing in the window caught my eye. I said to myself, "ok, so I'll just look at that." I picked it up, and started crying all over again. It's a decorative thing (knick knack type of item I suppose) that is a heart that is sort of tall, with a cross in the middle, and then some flowers and scrolling and such in the middle as well. On the heart it says, "There is always, always, always, always" and then on the cross it says "something to be thankful for"
It fits the colors in my living room, and it "spoke" to me when I looked at it. (obviously since I looked at it and burst into tears again) I looked at the other items there, but nothing meant as much to me in that moment as this did. I bought it. I told David later on... I know that I didn't NEED it, but I really needed it. He just said he understood, and it was ok...
So far the plan is for me to take the birth control pills for 2 weeks, then come back for further evaluation. She decided to do an ultrasound eventhough I wasn't sure that I needed one. Last month I asked for one, because the pain was much worse than it had been. Last month was normal. This month she said that she wanted to do one as my period had "taken it's time" in coming. It still came within a normal range, but she wanted to check. She said the type of cyst that it was meant that the egg had matured but not released. So, I didn't even actually ovulate. So much for the OPK saying positive and all that. Oh, and I was actually in the doctor's office (where they see you) for about a half hour. About 20 min. of which was with the nurse practioner.
Megan, it does sound as if it'll be a good thing that you will be seeing a new doctor. Hopefully a really good doctor! =) Oh, and I also work with an unmarried girl, who just announced she is pregnant. I've been kinda sorta avoiding the topic with her... cause I really don't want to hear it right now.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/11/2008 9:46:06 AM
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Yeah, it is good. I haven't started bleeding yet, but I am starting with the really really painful cramps now...so I imagine AF will be in full swing by the end of the day. If not...then there's always tomorrow. Happy Anniversary to me (haha--this so stinks...won't be able to do ANYTHING for my DH now)....
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/11/2008 1:29:09 PM
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apparently cysts can delay periods (I seem to have proved this several times now) and there are other things... like late ovulation... or it could be that your period is about to start.
I had pretty bad cramping for about a week before this time. Then when it started, it wasn't that that bad, but then the cramps got pretty bad pretty fast.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/11/2008 2:04:17 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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I had quite a few cysts and never had a delayed period....but...then again...it's hard to say. My body is doing things differently since the surgery...so this could be yet another change.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 5:04:57 AM
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Hi all, sorry I was gone for so long... right before we left on our trip my computer died... how aggravating! I didn't lose anything as my hard drive is fine, just couldn't get online. Now we're back & I'm installed on DH's old desk top. Better than nothing, I guess.
Anyway, I did test again, right before we left & it was still negative. My friend here told me that if I didn't start by the time I got back from our trip we'd make a dr. appointment. Well, I started while we were gone, but get this, on day 50!! I had a 49 day long cycle! How insane is that? This is the second cycle I've been 45 days+, with AF visiting for 10 days. I'm really hoping this isn't my "new norm".
I've started temping, but with just a normal thermometer, as you can't buy BBT ones here. The dr.s don't even seem to know about temping for conception purposes. So, I'm using my regular thermometer until I can get a BBT from the US. I figure it's better than nothing, even if it's not precise.
Sorry for you disappointment, Gina. I think I would have broken down in tears as well, and I'm sure you're right, they're used to seeing that.
Megan, when do you guys move exactly? Are you ready?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 9:04:50 AM
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Lydia, first, thank you. =) Secondly, for what it's worth, many doctors here think that temp-ing in order to conceive or not conceive is nonsense. It's not what they are taught to do, and so they find no value in it. Some doctors even look at you like you have lost your mind. It's hard to find a doctor who puts any stock in charting.
Do you have a digital thermometer? The "regular" (old) type that are not digital would be really really hard to use. If you have digital, they normally at least have tenths. That would help. =)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 9:08:35 AM
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We head to Kansas for our move on the 30th...so...in 16 days we'll be moving. Am I ready? More so emotionally, etc. than I am physically. *sigh* So many boxes to pack!!!
My GP here recommended temping and charting...I found that interesting as the obgyn hasn't said anything of the sorts.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 11:34:44 AM
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Gina, my thermometer is an old fashioned mercury-esque one, but it does have 10ths, though it is in Celsius, too. Ah, the joy. Everything has to be "different" than the dorm, huh? LOL Well, we'll see. If I can't get one from the US by next month, I may look into a digital one here... or maybe I won't need one next month... wouldn't THAT be amazing!? 
Happy packing, Megan! You're moving the day after my b-day! 
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 12:01:23 PM
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Hello, would it be okay if I joined this thread? My name is Alicia, and me and my dh have been struggling to conceive now for 6 years. We are finally actively doing infertility treatments. My dh had a varicocelectomy in April, and I started taking clomid this month. I have been looking for a good Christian infertility support group for awhile now. Thanks, and God bless you, Alicia
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 1:41:22 PM
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Sure, Alicia. Just jump right in....I'm Megan, BTW. Some of us have been struggling longer than others, but we're all here to give each other support. I was involved with a great bunch of ladies online (and IRL), but no one had dealt with this...or if they had...they weren't open about discussing it...so I began my search & found CW. I thank God that there are others who have struggled with infertility and some have even conceived...so it really helps (for me) to be able to talk about these things.
God bless
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 2:05:54 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Gina, my thermometer is an old fashioned mercury-esque one, but it does have 10ths, though it is in Celsius, too. Ah, the joy. Everything has to be "different" than the dorm, huh? LOL Well, we'll see. If I can't get one from the US by next month, I may look into a digital one here... or maybe I won't need one next month... wouldn't THAT be amazing!?
Happy packing, Megan! You're moving the day after my b-day!
That would be amazing, Lydia. Happy early birthday to you as I most likely will not be around CW that day (our modem goes back that day...at least that's the current plan). Packing is fun...kind of. We're getting things together for a yard sale as well...so I pray that goes well as we're only going to be able to have it these couple of weeks.
My guess is chances of conception will be slim this month. I am charting...just have to get the notebook to write it down in...as I finally got my thermometer on my night stand!!
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 4:57:07 PM
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don't forget that you can chart online too at places like "www.fertilityfriend.com" and it's free! =) Well, the basic chart is. It will tell you whether you have ovulated or not, and so you won't have to figure that out, plus you don't have a piece of paper to loose. =) (that's what I do)
We actually temp as a co-effort. David gets up at 5:30 every day for work. Then he wakes me at 6:30 to say good-bye. At that time, he takes a moment to take my temp, and write it down on the calendar that we have in the bedroom. Later, I get up and put the info into fertility friend. I like them doing the interpreting for me, although I do know how to do it myself, and only on occassion have I disagreed with them. =)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/14/2008 5:01:44 PM
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quote:
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Hello, would it be okay if I joined this thread? My name is Alicia, and me and my dh have been struggling to conceive now for 6 years. We are finally actively doing infertility treatments. My dh had a varicocelectomy in April, and I started taking clomid this month. I have been looking for a good Christian infertility support group for awhile now. Thanks, and God bless you, Alicia
Hi Alicia!
I'm sorry that you and your hubby have been struggling with conception, but we are happy to have you here! =)
My husband and I have been doing "infertility treatments" since January of this year, and have been trying for a while as well, although not as long as you have.
I have been doing the clomid rounds since Feb., and can't take it this month due to a cyst. Thankfully my hubby didn't need that surgery, but he joins me in taking clomid. (ha!)
I have an appointment on the 24th at 10 (ultrasound) and 10:30 (doctor) to check on the cyst, and discuss stuff.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/15/2008 3:47:13 AM
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quote:
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don't forget that you can chart online too at places like "www.fertilityfriend.com" and it's free! =) Well, the basic chart is. It will tell you whether you have ovulated or not, and so you won't have to figure that out, plus you don't have a piece of paper to loose. =) (that's what I do)
I love FF! I'm such a closet addict! I end up checking my chart and everything a number of times a day. I guess I expect it to magically tell me something that wasn't there 15 minutes ago! HA! I've learned so much on there, though!
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We actually temp as a co-effort. David gets up at 5:30 every day for work. Then he wakes me at 6:30 to say good-bye. At that time, he takes a moment to take my temp, and write it down on the calendar that we have in the bedroom. Later, I get up and put the info into fertility friend. I like them doing the interpreting for me, although I do know how to do it myself, and only on occassion have I disagreed with them. =)
That's so cool that you guys work this out together! Kudos for the team work. I'm having trouble with my temping experience (Ok, today was day 2, but seriously...) I can't sleep at night. It's not like I'm "excited" to take it... I don't know what the issue is, but I just can't get sleep, and then I make it worse by being concerned that I haven't slept for 3 solid hours. DH gets up after I do (and our schedule doesn't demand a specific wake up time either), so I'm always concerned about my alarm waking him up. I set it early and then usually go back to sleep after I temp, but... does this stress pass?
I need to do some research. Either I'm not temping correctly, my thermometer isn't working right, or my body temps are way wacky!
Welcome Alicia! Good to have you here! :)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/15/2008 9:34:54 AM
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Ooops, I just realized I didn't use the thermometer this morning. Too tired upon waking up. Guess I'm going to have to train DH to do it...LOL. He's more of a morning person than I am....
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/15/2008 11:15:46 AM
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It really does help to have someone else there, invested in the method with you... cause if one forgets, the other usually doesn't. =)
Temps can be "wacky" if you are not getting enough sleep, or if you get up much in the night, or if your room is varying temperatures. Plus, it can just plain be your body being wacky. If you started at the beginning of your period (day 1) then temps should be low or dropping, and then you will see some rise around ovulation. (theoretically.. it doesn't always happen if there are other things going on with your body)
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/15/2008 8:05:46 PM
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Welcome Alicia!
DH and I went away for a 4 day weekend to the "northwoods". It was great!
Gina, that is so nice that your DH helps you temp! We have similar schedules, my DH gets up at 5:30 and wakes me around 6:30 too...maybe I should add temping to his list of things to do in the morning!
My spotting lasted about 10 days and has finally stopped. I called the nurse before we left and she said to call the dr. when I get back, so tomorrow I will call. I am guessing that it's just a messed up cycle. my last AF was really short, only 3 days when it is usually around 6. But, I don't know this for sure, so I am temping and OPK'ing starting tomorrow. My AF, according to the original schedule, would be due tomorrow, however, if my bout of spotting was 2nd AF, then I guess I am on Cd 12. Who knows.....
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/16/2008 9:48:19 AM
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daughter_of_faith
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Don't you love it when our bodies do whacky things, Noelle? That's awesome that you had a great extended weekend in the "northwoods".
I remembered to take my temp this morning 
Should be interesting to start plugging things in...especially since I haven't quite gotten this into a routine yet. My DH usually wakes me around 5:30 when he leaves for work...if I'm not already awake. I actually got a good night's rest. The past few nights haven't been so restful.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/16/2008 11:11:17 PM
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Hello ladies! I hope you all are doing good. Dh has been on vacation this week and we have been taking it easy. I have my CD 21 bloodwork done on Monday and I hope that I ovulated this month:) I took 100mg of clomid this month and my side-effects have been sorta rough. I tell ya dh is a trooper for having to put up with "clomid woman"  . I just wanted to pop in and say 'hi' again and thanks for welcoming me. I will talk to you all later, God Bless you all, Alicia
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/17/2008 9:28:42 AM
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daughter_of_faith
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Yes, I remembered to temp this morning.  Thanks for asking! I'm finally getting into the habit (maybe).
Lydia, where have your temps been running? (Mine have all been under 97 so far). What cycle day are you on now? I'm thinking since you had a really long cycle that we should be in about the same place (trying to remember here). Day 7 here...
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/17/2008 10:05:53 PM
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I am using FF Not sure how you look at another user's chart though. I know some of the ladies used to post links, etc. Could you do that?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/18/2008 8:51:42 AM
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just for reference...
on Fertility Friend, look at the side bar, click on "sharing"
then "home page setup"
then follow their instructions... and they will give you a preview link (at the top) so that you can see it before you give someone the link. There are options for what you want included and excluded... so you can pretty much let people see what you want them to see. =)
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