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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 6/28/2008 11:53:09 AM
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solo_soprano22
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I've never heard of bones collapsing in the feet at *only* 250 - 300 pounds.. unless she's extremely short. I personally have only heard of that if someone was about 400 or more pounds. Anyway, that's a tangent. =)
Solo, First thing I would do, if I were your sister, is to listen to the doctors, and try all that they are telling her. If she doesn't like what she's being told, and doesn't feel that it's working for her, maybe it's time to change doctors, or atleast seek another opinion on the matter. =) I don't see why someone should feel they have a "right" to someone else's eggs or any part of someone else... related or not. I mean, God gave it to you, not her... so you have final say, and she just needs to deal with what God gave her the best she can. (I know there are options such as having someone donate an egg, but that's a big deal, and not something that happens all the time, and she shouldn't expect you to save one of yours for her)
She is extremely short lol. I think part of the problem is that she's depressed and starts on a diet (for diabetes) and then gets off after a few weeks. I think the way her life is gets her depressed, and that's when she gives up on trying when she knows she should be. She's attempted suicide and a few other things, and I know the depression contributed to some of the issues she has now.
The only thing she'll do consistently is swimming class... but the food thing doesn't work with her. And the only exercise she can do is in water because of her bones. I don't think her docs are the problem to her... I think it's just her not following what she knows is right. My mom gets onto her all the time about it (they spend a lot of time talking). She'd gone to a weight loss company because her diabetes is so bad (and her bp and blood sugar), and she said the plan and everything sounded good but she didn't like that the people asked her why she wanted to lose weight.  (I think she was saying they're asking her if she wants to lose weight so she can go to the beach, etc., when she really just wants to lose for her health and herself.)
On a side note, I honestly don't think people in my family have the money for all the assisted reproduction even if we wanted to lol. I know my sis doesn't have it because her husband (and she) went bankrupt. And my parents have loaned them so much money that I'm pretty sure they'd just say no anyway because they've never seen any kind of repayment. 
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 6/28/2008 12:01:53 PM
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pumpkin
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well, clomid only costs $9 per month at walmart if you are on the lowest dose. For each "upping" of the dose, you double the price. Plus you have the doctor visit fee once a month. Other than that, that's it. It's only when you get into IUI's (which at my doctor are *only* about $300), and other more invasive things that it gets more costly.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 6/28/2008 12:03:34 PM
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pumpkin
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I'm currently in my luteal phase... just waiting.
I am extremely stressed out right now though. We had a kitchen fire here last night, and the smoke smell is bad, and there were some things that were damaged/ruined. We now have to figure out all of the cleanup, and it's HOT but we have the windows open and fans on to try to get the smell out.
I'm not sure how stress affects anything other than ovulation, but well... I'm stressed.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 6/29/2008 6:16:48 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Try not to stress!!! I know...easier said than done...esp. after a kitchen fire. Everything's going to be all right!
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 6/30/2008 10:55:44 AM
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pumpkin
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ugh, I feel crampy and a bit nauseous. Last cycle by this point I was starting to spot. So far, nothing. Maybe that's a good sign... or maybe it means nothing. =) Every once in a while I have to laugh at how we try to interpret every little thing... when only hindsight really tells us if it meant anything or not. =)
The clean up continues around here... so I best get back to it.
Did you girls ever get a positive on your OPK's this month?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/1/2008 8:55:19 AM
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pumpkin
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it's been kinda quiet around here lately.... where is everybody? Anybody?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/1/2008 9:19:38 AM
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daughter_of_faith
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I never did get a positive. My son isn't feeling well today. Not sure where everyone else is lately....
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/1/2008 9:40:21 AM
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pumpkin
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I'm sorry your son is under the weather.
Did you buy a 2nd pkg of the tests or just go with a negative this month?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/1/2008 9:47:16 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Going with the negative as it *should* have shown up by then if it was going to. IDK, I'll ask the doc on the 10th (appt. date was changed because doc isn't going to be in the office on the 7th, but that's another story entirely).
What cycle day are you on now, Gina? 19 here...
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/1/2008 10:31:34 PM
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pumpkin
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I'm on 28.
What days did you do the testing?
I didn't ovulate this month until - it would seem - day 18.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/1/2008 10:56:39 PM
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not_the_first
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Hi ladies. Gina, I can't believe about your fire. I'm glad no one was hurt.
I am on CD 13. I decided against OPK's this month. I know eventually I'll start using them again, but I just didn't want to start putting myself under that stress right away, kwim? I already know my problem is not with ovulation, so I figured why bother and just enjoy this month without having to worry about tyring and tesitng and all that.
Megan, are you temping too or just opk's?
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/2/2008 2:57:37 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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I didn't temp...honestly I forgot about it until yesterday when I was taking my son's temperature because of his illness.
Would have used strips on Days 11-15/16 (I think? something like that). My cycles aren't irregularly long (usually 27 days or so). We did have relations so maybe we'll get a surprise. Could be that the strips just aren't picking O up. It's hard to say.
And Noelle, I kwym about the stress of using OPKs and temping. I think that's why I haven't started temping because I know it's going to be another stressor. This next month I have a move right in the middle of my cycle but we should be settling back down to normal after that.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/3/2008 10:36:25 AM
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pumpkin
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today is CD 30. I took a test this morning, but it was negative. My temp had dropped yesterday, but today it is back up.
I don't really know the best day for testing with this progesterone. I figure I'll test again next week sometime if nothing happens in the meantime.
Can stress just make you ovulate late therefore making your period 'late' or can it actually make your period late after you've ovulated? Too many things to ponder.
In other signs/symptom type things... I had an extremely sudden burst of nausea, which almost resulted in me vomitting about 2 nights ago. I was literally fine one minute, then the next... well, I wasn't. It ended very quickly as well... which is weird for me.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/3/2008 2:58:19 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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I don't really know, pumpkin. It CAN be....but...it's hard to say. Anyway, I gotta read a book to my little one and get him down for a nap!
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/6/2008 9:56:44 PM
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not_the_first
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How was everyones 4th of July?
Gina, I don't know the answer to your question, I think the stress effets when you ovulate, which then effects when you get your period, but I swear there have been times when I think stress effected just my period. Did you test????
I am currenly on CD 18 and I have been spotting for the past 3 days. I've also had some mild cramping and some pain that feels like my ovaries, kind of like the pain I felt for a week or so after surgery. What do you think this is? I thought I was getting my period, but it has just been spotting. Do you think that my cycle is way off from having surgery, even though my last cycle came rignt on time? Could it be ovulatory spotting? Dh wants me to call the doctor on monday, but I don't know if I want to. I HATE not knowing what's going on.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/7/2008 8:52:40 AM
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pumpkin
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Noelle, it *could* be from your surgery still, or from ovulation, or it could be that your period is wanting to come "early". It also could be pregnancy. It's hard to know.
After my surgery my doctor told me "anything can be considered 'normal' after surgery... up to 6 months after, and sometimes longer" Essentually your body is recovering from a trauma, and well... it just depends on your body.
Do you chart?
I did test on Thursday, and that was DPO 12/CD 30, but it was negative. I'm currently on DPO 16/CD 34, and still no period. I'll probably test again in a couple of days, and if it's still negative, I'll make a doctor's appointment, or at least call them. OR, if my period starts, well, then we'll know that answer.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/8/2008 8:27:29 AM
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pumpkin
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yeah... it would be nice if for once my body would just agree to be easy to read. I took another test this morning, and it was a digital one... so not even any hope of a second line, it just read "not pregnant"
I guess I need to call the doctor and tell her/him/the nurse what's going on and see what they say.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/8/2008 2:43:53 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Hmmm, Gina. One would think something would show up by now. It's hard to say though.
Noelle, I don't really know what to tell you. Since surgery, my cycles have been as regular as they USED to be (although a little heavier on the second day). I still have occasional pain though.
I'm expecting AF in the next few days as I never really saw ovulation (didn't temp, but going to start on this cycle...once I find the thermometer again). Doc appt. on Thursday...maybe he'll have better news or suggestions for me. DH has said he now wants to try until November before he goes in for testing. *sigh* He thinks we'll get pregnant pretty quickly once we move. It's really hard to wait.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/9/2008 2:33:28 PM
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pumpkin
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Megan, is your hubby just "afraid" of the testing or just plain doesn't really want to do it or does he feel it's unnecessary? (just curious)
I mean, we didn't want to do the testing either... but it helps to know what one is dealing with.
I need to make an appointment... as we are back to the beginning again.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/9/2008 3:16:04 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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It's kind of a little bit of everything. Right now it's because we're in the process of packing so we can move. It's stressful...he thinks it will happen soon. He wants us to settle into our new home & then go from there. We'll see....he had said at the end of the summer previously...so it kind of seems like he's procrastinating on this like he does on everything. *sigh*
Sorry to hear you are back at the beginning. We will most likely be as well rather soon. I'm expecting AF today or tomorrow. No signs of her yet.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/10/2008 8:40:10 AM
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pumpkin
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well, I'm off to my "clomid check" appointment. I hate going through these exams. It's almost like having a pap smear every month... although not quite as bad... it is still painful.
I'm having terrible cramps too, and a lot of heavy flow. Which, last time, she said was "great!" because it means that everything is working the way it's supposed to... and the clomid/progesterone were doing their jobs. I mean, I'm happy about that, but these cramps are just horrid. I've been taking 3 motrin, and that just gets it to a level where I can sort of not notice them as much, and actually can do some things. Although, as soon as it wears off... oh boy... I need to search out the bottle quickly.
I just took some motrin hoping that by the time the doctor actually sees me it'll be working. I hope.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/10/2008 11:53:21 AM
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pumpkin
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well, got some bad news at the doctor.
I have a cyst. They won't do clomid when you have a cyst, because it could (theoretically) make it grow larger. Instead I have to take birth control pills, and go back in 2 weeks.
At the next appointment someone will do an ultrasound. Then I'll have an appointment with the doctor. He will want to discuss not only the cyst, but also all our "options" as far as help with conception. I already know that he will want to discuss the possibility of IVF, and IUI's, and injections. I don't know what else he will want to discuss in that regard... but I guess we have 2 weeks to make up our minds about how we feel about these things.
I'm really upset though. I was only disappointed that I got my period. But now to have to take birth control pills... basically taking away any hope this month... well that stinks! I've been crying since I left the office... when the nurse practioner gave me a hug.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/10/2008 8:54:32 PM
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Gina, I'm so sorry, i wish there could have been better news for you. I understand the pain and frustration. I hate when people try to make me feel better who have no clue what I'm going through, but it helps to know that there are people out there who understand like you ladies on this thread, so just know that we understand. How long do they want you to take BC?
I called the dr today. I'm still spotting. It's been 6 days. My dr. isn't in until Mon. so I talked to the nurse. She said that I should call the dr. on monday, but she says there isn't a lot to be concerned about unless I'm bleeding really bad. My fear is that I also have another cyst, I don't know what else this would be other than a really messed up period.
I also broke down at Church on Sunday. I ran into a really wonderful lady on our way out whom my husband and I know and who also suffered through infertility and several miscarriages. She looked at me and asked if I was ok (by this point I already cried through half the church service and had finally composed myself) and then I burst out crying again, in front of a ton of people....and had tears fallling all the way through the crowds and out the door. I ran into a friend who is expecting, and she got married a year and half after I did. There have been SO MANY people I know who have had babies since we've been trying, it's so overwhelming. It's like a reminder of what I can't have and it breaks my heart so much. I know it's not the right way to feel, but you know what? it's how I feel.
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RE: *Struggling* to conceive... - 7/10/2008 9:05:26 PM
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daughter_of_faith
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Noelle, I hear you. I really do....because it's a very similar feeling to what happens to me when I find out someone else is expecting. The latest one is this unmarried gal a couple of years younger than me that already has another child.
Gina, sorry to hear this news as it does pretty much mean no period this month. How did he determine you had more cysts? Do they do a US every time? Just curious as my doc doesn't do any of that jazz...the last few appts have just been him talking....and it takes longer to drive there than it does for me to actually see the doctor...not to mention the waiting time, etc. (((hugs))) and prayers, Gina. We'll be here if you need to vent/talk.
Thank God I am moving and will have a new doctor. He told me today to just keep trying. Test was negative as I really thought it would be...but still disappointing. I feel somewhat forgotten (by God). Not sure if that makes sense. Oh, he mentioned starting Clomid in a few months if we weren't pregnant by then.
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