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pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/14/2008 11:44:11 AM)

haha... I don't think they'll get here by tomorrow. =)

Thank you for the congratulations. =)



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/14/2008 12:02:10 PM)

UPS overnight.

WAIT...tomorrow is Sunday. I don't think they deliver on Sundays.....

Hmmm...I guess that won't work after all [8D]

Are you two planning on celebrating? (Other than the usual BD)...



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/14/2008 12:06:20 PM)

well, we had planned for tonight (but it got moved to last night.. so now we are uncertain what to do today) to go on a boat ride on the lake, and have a catered dinner on the boat at sunset. It was a private boat, with just the 2 of us, it was very memorable, and we had fun. =)

Right now David is sleeping. He got up early this morning, but then he decided to go back to bed after I was up for a little bit. We've exchanged gifts, and cards already. =)



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/14/2008 12:17:25 PM)

Yay!! It sounds like a nice relaxing day [:)]

Our anniversary is coming up next month. Not sure if we'll do anything as we're moving at the end of the month...

Maybe all we need to conceive is a change of scenery. [;)]



solo_soprano22 -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/15/2008 2:29:41 PM)

My sis is struggling to conceive.

She's getting on up there and in addition to far too much extra weight, she has high bp, high blood sugar, collapsed bones in her feet (from the weight, so they say), bad knees and diabetes. Her husband has a low sperm count and is overweight also. They don't seem to want to try to do anything about the medical conditions (they things they CAN do things about), but she wants one of my eggs. I told her no, but I think if I did give her one there's a good chance that she might not be able to carry it to term with all the things against her health....and I'm not sure where IVF money would even come from. [8|] I guess I figure she should at least attempt to get healthier before asking others for eggs. [8|] Of course the docs tell her the same things; I thinks she thinks the medical side of things don't matter (as far as the conditions go). I know she can still get pregnant despite those things, but they certainly seem to be working against her and her husband both.

My other sister gets pregnant when she DOESN'T try, and I think that makes her feel badly too.



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/15/2008 6:18:29 PM)

why does she need one of your eggs? Can she not ovulate whatsoever? Does one even have to be ovulating in order to "donate" an egg? (or have one "harvested"?)

In your situation, I would have to agree. If you know that you know that you know that they are unwilling to try to do anything to make the situation better for themselves... (diet, exercise, etc...) then I don't see much point in giving them the impression that you would want to give up one of your eggs.

Although, I don't know how heavy your sister is. I would imagine she would have to be really really heavy in order for it to be collapsing bones in her feet. I'm overweight, and everything about my health is pretty good except for my weight. I exercise regularly, and at a pretty good intensity, my blood pressure is good, my cholesterol isn't terrible, but at last check needed slight improvements... even with those issues (weight being the main one) my doctor things that I am perfectly healthy to carry a baby, and shouldn't have any issues. =)

If her doctors are recommending that she do something about it and she refuses, well... I would tend to think that it didn't matter that much to her. Either that or she has absolutely no idea where to start.



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/15/2008 6:27:33 PM)

I'm overweight as well and fairly healthy with that (no problems with BP, etc.). Doc didn't see any reason why I couldn't carry a pregnancy at this weight. In fact, I got pregnant with my DS at this weight (more or less).

Gina, have you been to an endo?



solo_soprano22 -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/15/2008 10:47:53 PM)

She wants my egg because of the age of my age compared to hers. The younger eggs have a better chance of taking no matter the age of the female. She's actually starting to get menopause symptoms. She does have cycles though; they're just very messed up. I can really only estimate her weight. I'm thinking she's somewhere between 250-300 lbs, but she's very short and has a small frame, so it may appear that she's bigger than that.

I'm not that interested in IVF, but I am interested in reproductive biology. I know in the past when IVF was started in Britain...I think it was in Britian, you had to ovulate so that they could get the mature egg (or eggs) rather than the others. Now I think they induce ovulation and take the egg right before...and the way they get the egg looks like it hurts (if you see what's going on from the inside out). Ick. Lol.

She seems to start out to change, then a week later she's back in the old ways. But she's more trying to lose weight for the diabetes and health complications. Her husband seems never to start in the first place though. He's probably around 300 lbs. He doesn't seem to have issues like my sis though; I know he has high bp, but not much else. Odd thing is my sister used to be skinny as a rail; she got depressed and gained a massive amount of weight in a year or two. I think she probably used to weigh 130 lbs before all of that happened. [8|]



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/16/2008 3:57:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: daughter_of_faith

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ORIGINAL: ajidil
So this month has been a kind of "practice run" for us. LOL

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ORIGINAL: daughter_of_faith
I was just looking at the calendar to see when I would test if I thought I was expecting....and....it's on Father's Day. That would be neat if it were positive. I'm trying really hard not to get my hopes up though because things have been stressful, etc.


Oh my! That's awesome! When I read that I had to go check my charts and I would test around then, too! Oh, what an awesome Father's Day present that would be!!! [:)]


How is your practice run going? I probably won't test until next weekend (the 22nd)...if AF is late. Seems like she is right on course for over the weekend though.


Yeah, I'm trying to hold out a bit longer, too. So far, so good, but we'll see. My friend is having a baby on the 19th (scheduled C-section) so if all is still clear by then, I may go ahead and test that same day. That would be kinda fun. I don't know... I'm kinda scared... don't want to see that big negative. Plus I'm living in a foreign country so have to get someone to go with me to the pharmacy to buy a test, so I'm really trying to hold out as long as possible. AAAcck! The insanity! LOL



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/16/2008 4:03:20 AM)

Oh, sorry... I wrote that before I saw your next post. [&:] Big bummer. Yeah, that's why I really don't want to go test. *sigh* I guess we'll just wait and see. There's always next month...



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/16/2008 8:57:22 AM)

I've never heard of bones collapsing in the feet at *only* 250 - 300 pounds.. unless she's extremely short. I personally have only heard of that if someone was about 400 or more pounds. Anyway, that's a tangent. =)

Solo, First thing I would do, if I were your sister, is to listen to the doctors, and try all that they are telling her. If she doesn't like what she's being told, and doesn't feel that it's working for her, maybe it's time to change doctors, or atleast seek another opinion on the matter. =) I don't see why someone should feel they have a "right" to someone else's eggs or any part of someone else... related or not. I mean, God gave it to you, not her... so you have final say, and she just needs to deal with what God gave her the best she can. (I know there are options such as having someone donate an egg, but that's a big deal, and not something that happens all the time, and she shouldn't expect you to save one of yours for her)

Megan, I have not been to an endo. I have friends who have though. I don't know if I think I need to see one or not. I don't really feel like my doctor is doing anything different (as far as I know) than an endo would do. Not from what I've heard from my friends anyway. I mean, I have gone through the same testing, and such, and so has David w/ his urologist, and we have all the same options available to us that they had there... so I guess I don't see much need at this point. If all is unsuccessful, I might consider it.

The current thing we are discussing is how we feel about IUI's, and whether we want to go that route, and if so... how many times?

Ajidil, are you late now? So you plan to test on the 19th?? That's only 3 days away! =)



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/16/2008 11:08:56 AM)

Thanks, Gina. The reason I was asking is because I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere with my ob/gyn.

Yay, ajidil!!! At least I think that's a yay! We'll find out in a few days with you [sm=smile.gif]



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/16/2008 1:00:33 PM)

I can understand not getting anywhere with your ob/gyn. I think there are some ob/gyn's out there (like mine) who stay current, and know how to treat a variety of things, and are always helpful. Then there are others who think they know it all and don't really know much at all, and to top it off, are unhelpful.

My previous ob/gyn was not one who ever really listened to me, and I felt very judged by her. I felt strongly that she just plain didn't like me. I've never regretted leaving her practice, and I've felt very comfortable with my new doctor. I prayed, a ton, that God would lead me to the best doctor for me. I feel that he did. I've really never had much of a complaint at all with my new doctor. =) I also really feel like he's "on my side" and wants to help me in any way that he can. He also works with me, and I really like that. =)



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/16/2008 3:45:42 PM)

Yeah, I guess I just figure I'll suck it up for now. I'll be leaving his practice next month regardless. So we're talking about one cycle. Yeah, it could be the ONE cycle where we conceive, but it may not. It's just really hard to know.

I do think I'll talk to DH about going in for a full work-up soon though. Our regular doctor's office will do that though. It didn't sound like he needed to go to another doctor...at least that was my understanding. I guess the doc would be able to let us know and refer us if needed.

At this point, it doesn't seem as though the doc thinks anything is "wrong" with me. My cycles are "short" (at least to me) in that they are usually 26 days. Plus there is the issue of cysts...but doc didn't seem to think anything else was needed for them. I still am unsure why. Grrrr....

I guess I'll just leave things in God's hands. For now I am working out 3 times a week (using the Couch to 5K program) and dieting. Scale says I am losing a little bit of weight...so we'll see how that goes. Also, I'm taking cinnamon (when I remember).



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/17/2008 3:07:04 PM)

Yeah. I'm aiming for the 19th. I'm so nervous, though. I'm feeling weird and have different things going on that make me think that maybe this time I really am pregnant, but I don't know if I'm just reading into things or not. I'm technically late, but my cycle is so irregular it's insane, so I'm really trying to hold out as long as possible. But then I look at some other things, like... I have no energy (even fell asleep on the couch reading yesterday afternoon... very not like me), I'm constantly hungry but very normal foods for me are a big turn off, I have a very "full" feeling in my stomach area and I actually think I'm putting on weight, slowly, which is odd since I'm not doing anything different really, and I've been slightly nauseous for about 4 or 5 days... nothing major, but just like unsettled and a "full" feeling in the back of my throat and getting a bit carsick easier than normal. But, all that to say... I don't want to read into anything. I really, really don't. I'll have to find someone to go with me to go to the pharmacy to buy a test (since I really don't know the language here well enough for that) so I have that stress as well. So, all that to say, yes, I'm trying my darndest to hold out till the 19th and maybe a bit beyond... but I'm not sure I'll be able to wait much longer than that!!! I'd rather wait for AF than get a BFN yet again. I don't know if I could handle that very well.



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/17/2008 4:49:39 PM)

I hear you on seeing a BFN on a test. It's devastating. But....if you are like many women...a BFN doesn't mean anything....can mean that not enough hormone has developed yet to show up on the test.....

Keep us posted...only a couple more days [;)]



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/18/2008 6:01:06 AM)

Yup, really, just one more day... though in all reality it will be longer than that. I don't even have a test. I just text messaged my friend to ask her how much they cost here... I don't even know. I'm sure she'll respond with glee. I'm so nervous but really feel like I'm *almost* ready to risk it and just know! If it's a BFN, I'll live. There's always next month, though, boy, would my cycle be all messed up now. Today is cycle day 37... I can't imagine how messed up next month will be!



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/18/2008 11:00:34 AM)

Tomorrow is the day!!! It sounds as though you are excited to know....regardless of what the test says. Hmmm...being on cycle day 37....you SHOULD have answers. Unless you have really long cycles?

Praying things turn out well for you!



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/18/2008 1:32:47 PM)

I do tend to have long cycles sometimes. My longest has been like 41 days, so I'm not to that extent yet, but my average is 31, so I'm beyond that for sure. Yeah, I think I just wanna get it over with and get on with life, which ever branch of the road I end up walking down (pregnant road or not pregnant road). It will still be at least tomorrow afternoon/evening before I can get a test, and you're usually supposed to use morning urine, right? So, it may be Friday till I actually test. It's so funny how something like this consumes so many hours of your day and become the biggest thing in the world at this moment.

Everything in me wants to figure out the list and order of people to tell and when, and start shopping online for baby stuff, but I don't feel like I should until I know for sure. I'm not superstitious so I'm not going to "jinks" it, but it still doesn't seem quite right, you know?

Here's to tomorrow! [:)]



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/19/2008 6:22:11 AM)

It's 1:30pm here and I'm going to go nuts before this day is over. My friend is buying me a test today that I'll get tonight so I guess I'll test tomorrow morning. AACCKK!!! I'm so freaked! My best friend is having a c-section today so is so offline & unavailable. I need to find something to distract myself! Please be praying for me and that, this time it's a positive result. Bless you!



pumpkin -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/19/2008 9:51:21 AM)

praying, and eagerly awaiting the results. =)



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/19/2008 12:32:12 PM)

^Ditto^

Let us know when you find something out. We'd miss you here, but we definitely understand...as we all pray to "graduate" someday.



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/19/2008 2:53:31 PM)

Thanks for the encouragement... I have 2 tests sitting in my bathroom waiting! [:D]

Don't worry... even if it comes up positive, I promise I'll still lurk in here! [:)]



daughter_of_faith -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/19/2008 2:55:36 PM)

Sounds like a good plan to me. So how many hours before you test? Just curious because you're WAY ahead of me on the time zone (I think like 10 hours or so).

God bless



ajidil -> RE: *Struggling* to conceive... (6/19/2008 3:27:42 PM)

[:D] Counting hours!!! Eekk! I'm pathetic! (FYI I'm +7 from EST).

So... 8-10 hours... depending on if I can sleep or not tonight... that would be between 6:30 and 8:30am my time. Yeah, somewhere in there. [sm=icon_smile_yikes.gif] Yep, I'm freaking out.



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