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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 9:37:20 AM
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EmilyAnn
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Always strikes my funnybone to hear about these heroic women who battled such terrible odds and managed to push out a baby without a doctor in the vicinity. Can you imagine? No doctor! No stirrups! No instruments! How on earth did that baby ever get out!?!
Yesterday there was a story on our local news station about a woman who gave birth in her kitchen. I didn't see the whole story, just the end of it, but they were making a huge deal of how the dad had to catch the baby (with the guidance of a 911 operator,) how no one believed them when they said the baby was born in the kitchen, and how the birth certificate had the place of birth as "residence" and for delivered by it had the father's name.
I found it strange that they were making a big deal out of a child being born at home.
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 9:39:56 AM
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To me, there is a difference between a planned homebirth (even a semi-planned/hoped for one) and an accidental one. It does not surprise or upset me when no one was planning on a homebirth and they call 911 when one is on the way anyhow.
There are people for whom a home birth would be dangerous. I am one of them. Yet I support those who want to birth at home who haven't had the issues that I've had.
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 9:44:50 AM
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I am glad you understand, Donna, 'cause I really don't get it, lol. I mean, sure, you planned to go to the hospital, but when the time comes, it would be a much better experience if you said, 'Ok, it's happening HERE, so let's get comfortable and remember that women have been birthing in fields for thousands/millions of years, it's a natural process, etc...'
I guess, having had a homebirth, I would not trade the peaceful atmosphere with which we were blessed for a harried, panicked situation. That isn't good for mom or baby! And I don't think it's in line with what is happening, either.
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 10:21:41 AM
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PrincessDonna
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I would not trade the peaceful atmosphere with which we were blessed for a harried, panicked situation.
Jen, wasn't your first delivery a very bad one, either medically or just in how it was managed? Of my three hospital deliveries, none of them have been harried or panicked...except for my first, which was a true medical emergency once he was delivered (before that, it was calm and peaceful).
I don't want to debate, since this is a thread to support natural childbirth. But I firmly believe even those who choose to deliver completely natural in a hospital CAN have a peaceful delivery also. I don't think you have to be at home to have that.
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 10:27:29 AM
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I don't want to debate, since this is a thread to support natural childbirth. But I firmly believe even those who choose to deliver completely natural in a hospital CAN have a peaceful delivery also. I don't think you have to be at home to have that.
Absolutely 100% true Donna. And also happens to be my goal. I will be at a brand new birthing center, my own room, my own shower. Can bring whatever I need to soothe and be comfortable.
I could not have a peaceful delivery at home. I envy those who can and do, but only to an extent. It just would not benefit me to be at home for delivery on purpose.
However, it would not benefit me to have no control over my delivery either. Thus why we switched to midwife department and the birthing center.
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 10:42:05 AM
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but from my experience with hospital births, it is mostly all about what control you take, not what they give.
Absolutely, Sarah. 
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 10:43:15 AM
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EmilyAnn
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I will be at a brand new birthing center, my own room, my own shower. Can bring whatever I need to soothe and be comfortable.
I wish there was a place like that here. That would be my #1 choice. There was a birthing center near here, but it shut down a few years ago. Now the only option here is a hospital or a home birth with a direct entry midwife (which is not covered by insurance) or an unassisted home birth (which I am not comfortable with.)
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/22/2008 1:07:13 PM
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Sarah, I agree with you, but I would also go a step further to say that culturally, we are to listen to doctors/medical professionals. Ie. My sister was induced last week due to big baby/overdue/miserable- her doctor worked with her as best he could to make the labor as manageable for her as possible under the circumstances (tried things other than pit to try to let her body take over, etc.)- HOWEVER- the NURSES told her she must stay in bed and could not get up. Consequently, she stayed at 5 cm for over ten hours and then the cranked up the pit to where she was having double and triple peak contractions and had to get an epi for the pain and has been in severe pain ever since (until yesterday afternoon). In HER situation, they BELIEVED that there was a true reason she had to stay in bed- they read lots of books, took a birthing class, even had a doula in training there, but (unfortunately) no one with enough guts to say NO, she does NOT need to stay in bed (we're talking rocking chair or birthing ball- she still could have been monitored the whole time). I think what is desperately needed in prenatal classes (and was part of ours which is probably the *only* reason that I made it through my first labor without pit and consequently without an epi)- is how to question the medical personel without being rude. No one who was with her was willing/able to do that because they *believed* what the experienced L&D nurses were saying  (by the way, this was even at a WOMENS hospital that has a great reputation   )
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RE: Natural Childbirth-support and discussion - 5/24/2008 7:49:32 AM
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If everything goes well, we will be having our son at home and he will not be getting the vitamin k shot. We planned to take him to the pediatrician on the 8th day for the PKU test, newborn hearing screening, and circumcision. I talked to the pediatrician we will be taking him to again on Sunday (she goes to my church) and she said she would be uncomfortable doing the circumcision without him having the vitamin k shot. She would prefer I bring him in the day after he is born for the PKU test, newborn hearing screening, and vitamin k shot, then come back a week later for the circumcision. I would like to find some more research on this so my husband and I can make a final decision and I can print out research to back it up. Does anyone have information about the benefits/risks of the vitamin k shot, alternatives to it, risks of not getting it, etc.? Thanks.
The vitamin K shot is started out just being given to little boys who were going to be circumcised in the hospital before day 8 to aid in clotting. It is NOT necessary in most other cases.
The PKU test should be done as soon as your milk comes in....it tests for rare metabolic disorders that can be life threatening...however...if your milk does not come in for a day or two..there is no need to have it within the first day..in fact...it will come back inconclusive and will have to be redone. With my first...my milk had not yet come in so they just sent us home with a "prescription" to have the PKU done as soon as my milk came in.
As for the newborn hearing screening...it can be useful to have it..but I see no real reason why it cannot wait for 8 days. It doesn't insure that your child can hear...just removes or identifies certain congenital factors that may affect their hearing so that you can make choices concerning your child's training/care as they grow up if they are hearing disabled.
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That breaks my heart. It shouldn't be that way. I wonder if they hadn't pushed you to that edge if you would have gone so far overdue? Tonnes of studies show that the stress = delay of labour/birth ... I wonder if you were being cared for by people who really believed in you and your body how different it may have been for you. The 'dead baby card' is a horrible ploy for any caregiver to take.
