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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/11/2008 9:10:23 AM
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It may have been based upon a sermon, but I don't think it was a live transcript of someone preaching. He addresses the Hebrews as not being present when he says I plan to come and see you. I suppose that could just be a postscript added on after the sermon was over. But he clearly had one specific audience in mind. When the book gets personal in places like chapter 5, "We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers..." Or chapter 10, "Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering." Or chapter 12, "In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood." He's addressing someone specific.
If these people he has in mind are the same ones he's planning to visit, then he's not preaching a sermon aloud. And if he can turn a sermon into a letter by tacking greetings onto the end, he could also tack on a customary address.
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RE: Who? POINT 1 Historical - 1/11/2008 10:13:33 AM
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Historical Point 1
1a) Documentation
1> The inscription “The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Hebrews” is found on nearly all existing Greek manuscripts, including the Peshito (Aramaic translation).
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1R> (response?)
Summary of Points:
Statement: a) Please respond to Point 1.1a Documentation, I will document it as 1R and outline the response to the point.
Benjamin Franklin Christian
Here are a list of the difficulties with Pauline authorship.
1) The earliest claim we have was by Clement of Alexandria who put forth the idea that Paul wrote in Hebrew, and it was later translated by Luke into Greek; however, there are difficulties with this view, among those are the fact that the Epistle shows no evidence of being first written in Hebrew, the smoothness and artistic polish of the Greek is regarded as the finest in the NT.
2) Unlike Paul, the Hebrews author quotes the Septuagint version exclusively. This also stands in opposition to the "translation theory" because it is extremely unlikely that someone writing in Hebrew would have quoted (and translated) from the Greek OT when the Hebrew scriptures were readily availible.
3) The style of quotation is different than Paul's i.e. lacking typical Pauline phrases like "it is written", or "the scriptures says".
4) Origen expressed doubts to Pauline authorship.
5) The Muratorian Cannon, Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Gais of Rome did not regard the Epistle as Pauline.
6) The style and Language of the Epistle differ considerably from the known Pauline letters.
7) It lacks the typical Pauline Greeting.
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Once again, only around 1800's did anyone question Paul as writer.
In the 1500's Luther, Melanchthon, Calvin, and Beza all expressed their doubts to the Pauline authorship of Hebrews.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/11/2008 7:13:11 PM
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Hi, and God Bless always.
Our brother Paul, has been attributed with the writtings of the book of Hebrews, by many, but not all.
I accept that the "HOLY SPIRIT", is the author of this book. Who penned it, I don`t know for sure, but I am confident the Holy Spirit, was the the "TRUE" writter.
God Bless always.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/11/2008 7:38:07 PM
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Fair Question
Easy response.
Since the "Scriptures" were still being coallated and cults were everywhere and spurious documents and people trying to dissuade the faithful
from following the Lord, the fact of Paul Writing Hebrews AND the fact that John Wrote John were both challenged and answered in 200 AD with the first
onslaught of non-beleivers attacking the validity of scripture, the point being, Origen doesn't end or write his entire treatise about Denying Paul, He, like many
scholars, makes a case in point of some of the Issues others have risen....of course the end and the volume of Origen as Well as you forget to Mention those who predate
and validate Paul authorship, but ok, speak of the Challenges presented to ALL Works at that time I suppose some one, LIKE ME, will remind the Scholars that Luther is the certain
person who took umberance with Paul, but since Luther eventually demonstrated some anti-semtic behaviour, as well as some MAJOR Theological error when it came to Jews,
I might admire much of what Luther Accomplished, but not foolish enough to assume any one man has the entire accuracy.
Which is why, Early Historical Records hold factual data for those who read it. Of course anyone who wants to read into it can do so and come up
with any interpretation they want......
EXCEPT
ALL the Other evidentiary is NOT responded, because it can't be denied, and the attempt to take a Simple Format and extend a logical and dispassionate examination is ignored, which if I only had ONE person and one post to presuppose my ideas on. I suppose I would follow anyone I want to at any time.
Which, since these MEN of God spent years studying, I suppose it is easy for Modern Bloggers to write off scholarhsip in favor of Bloggership.
SO, my Logic is intact, My predicate secure and My dog is better than your dog cause he eats Ken L Ration
LOL
Paul remains the great Proponent of Grace and in Hebrews his greatest tractate to Jews as Romans is to Romans (lol)
Geee I wonder if I should open a Dialogue on who wrote John, since that was floating around..........
Indiana Jones!! Laura Croft!! Lets go back to the tombs and FIND PAULS AUTOGRAPH
Benjamin Franklin Christian
I must fix this, "but since Luther eventually demonstrated some anti-semtic behaviour, as well as some MAJOR Theological error when it came to Jews,"
http://www.appleofhiseye.org/FAQs/LCMSOnMartinLuthersantiSemiticstatements/tabid/864/Default.aspx
Luther's Anti-Semitism
Q. What is the Missouri Synod's response to the anti-Semitic statements made by Luther in volume 47 of Luther's Works - On The Jews and Their Lies?
A. While The Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod holds Martin Luther in high esteem for his bold proclamation and clear articulation of the teachings of Scripture, it deeply regrets and deplores statements made by Luther which express a negative and hostile attitude toward the Jewish people. In light of the many positive and caring statements concerning the Jews made by Luther throughout his lifetime, it would not be fair on the basis of these few regrettable (and uncharacteristic) negative statements, to characterize the reformer as "a rabid anti-Semite." The LCMS, however, does not seek to "excuse" these statements of Luther, but denounces them (without denouncing Luther's theology).
In 1983, the Synod adopted an official resolution addressing these statements of Luther and making clear its own position on anti-Semitism. The text of this resolution reads as follows:
WHEREAS, Anti-Semitism and other forms of racism are a continuing problem in our world; and
WHEREAS, Some of Luther's intemperate remarks about the Jews are often cited in this connection; and
WHEREAS, It is widely but falsely assumed that Luther's personal writings and opinions have some official status among us (thus, sometimes implying the responsibility of contemporary Lutheranism for those statements, if not complicity in them); but also
WHEREAS, It is plain from scripture that the Gospel must be proclaimed to all people--that is, to Jews also, no more and no less than to others (Matt. 28:18-20); and
WHEREAS, This Scriptural mandate is sometimes confused with anti-Semitism; therefore be it
Resolved, That we condemn any and all discrimination against others on account of race or religion or any coercion on that account and pledge ourselves to work and witness against such sins; and be it further
Resolved, That we reaffirm that the bases of our doctrine and practice are the Scriptures and the Lutheran Confessions and not Luther, as such; and be it further
Resolved, That while, on the one hand, we are deeply indebted to Luther for his rediscovery and enunciation of the Gospel, on the other hand, we deplore and disassociate ourselves from Luther's negative statements about the Jewish people, and, by the same token, we deplore the use today of such sentiments by Luther to incite ant-Christian and/or anti-Lutheran sentiment; and be it further
Resolved, That in our teaching and preaching we take care not to confuse the religion of the Old Testament (often labeled "Yahwism") with the subsequent Judaism, nor misleadingly speak about "Jews" in the Old Testament ("Israelites" or "Hebrews" being much more accurate terms), lest we obscure the basic claim of the New Testament and of the Gospel to being in substantial continuity with the Old Testament and that the fulfillment of the ancient promises came in Jesus Christ; and be it further
Resolved, That we avoid the recurring pitfall of recrimination (as illustrated by the remarks of Luther and many of the early church fathers) against those who do not respond positively to our evangelistic efforts; and be it finally
Resolved, That, in that light, we personally and individually adopt Luther's final attitude toward the Jewish people, as evidenced in his last sermon: "We want to treat them with Christian love and to pray for them, so that they might become converted and would receive the Lord" (Weimar edition, Vol. 51, p. 195).
Also the people on this site my have the answer to, "Who wrote Hebrews"
http://www.appleofhiseye.org/
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/11/2008 9:19:25 PM
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I was planning to ignore that ad hominem attack on Luther, but since you brought it up,
Luther was not an anti-semite. He was opposed to the Jewish religion and its rejection of Christ. He wrote a tract "That Christ Was Born A Jew" urging Christians to win the Jews over by love and gentleness. He denounced persecutors of the Jews. And he prayed for the salvation of the Jews and for mercy toward them in the one treatise in which he let his anger get out of hand that has labeled him an anti-semite.
What he said about Jews was no harsher than what he said about the Pope, the Turks, radicals and all who opposed the truth. As a product of his times, his words could sometimes be shockingly crude and vitriolic. What he said was wrong, but we shouldn't judge him by 21st century standards. He took very personally every attack on Christ, and attacked back with every ounce of his strength, and he unfortunately believed the rumors and superstitions told about the Jews in his day.
But you can't condemn Luther without also condemning the Catholic Church of his day (Luther's main rival, Dr. Eck, wrote against the Jews much more harshly than Luther), the Inquisition, and the governments of England and France that had recently expelled the Jews. You can't expect one man to escape from that culture completely free of the biases of his environment. But Luther attacked the religion, not the race.
The law of the land was cuius regio, eius religio (whose region, his religion), that is, in a country ruled by a Catholic everyone must be Catholic or they would have their houses confiscated and be driven from the land; they would be forbidden to worship or teach their religion. That is all he proposed be done to the Jews, not the persecution or murder that many others of his day called for.
I don't condone what he wrote in "Against the Jews and their lies." But that one angry outburst was not what Luther really felt about the Jewish people.
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1712&cxDatabase_databaseID=1&id=2659&magazine=Forward in Christ
http://www.ntrmin.org/Luther%20and%20the%20Jews%20(Web).htm
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/20/2008 4:26:40 PM
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January 20th, 2008,
Hi Everyone!
I am so excited to be a part of this forum and I am especially excited to share what our Father and Saviour Jesus Christ have revealed to me through the Holy Spirit this very day!
In fact it is so clear and simple that I can hardly believe it has remained such a mystery and how blinded our eyes have been to this very thing. Hebrews itself declares quite plainly who the writer is and if you turn in your Bibles you will see.
Hebrews 13:25 (KJV) Grace be with you all. Amen. Written to the Hebrews from Italy by Timothy.
Timothy is the writer of Hebrews, however let's not forget how Timothy wrote Hebrews:
II Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as
they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
So to God be the Glory for his wonderful Word!
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/20/2008 5:36:07 PM
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Hebrews 13:23-25
23You should know that our brother Timothy has been released, with whom I shall see
you if he comes soon. 24Greet all your leaders and all the saints. Those who come from Italy send you greetings. 25 Grace be with all of you. (ESV)
Hebrews 13:23-25
23Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.
24Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.
25Grace be with you all. Amen. (KJV)
How then is the person in bold letters who is telling us that Timothy is set at liberty/ has been released and that's if he/Timothy comes?
And my question is who is addressing Timothy as , "our brother Timothy"
Another question I have is found in some findings in www.biblegateway.com
as you'll find all the Bible verses that have these various words in bold letters.
when I type in...our brother or my son or my true son and how
Paul addresses Timothy and all this in relation to Hebrews 13:23
23Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.
But Paul says it differently like Timothy our brother or my son related to Timothy or my true son...
But when Paul addresses other brothers he says our brother first then there names...
All done for now
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/20/2008 7:16:34 PM
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Hebrews 13:25 (KJV) Grace be with you all. Amen. Written to the Hebrews from Italy by Timothy.
Timothy is the writer of Hebrews, however let's not forget how Timothy wrote Hebrews:
Which bible translation actually has "to the Hebrews from Italy by Timothy" as part of the last verse? Most trustworthy Bibles should end at "Amen" in that spot.
The author also indicates Timothy is a 3rd party, not 1st person writing it.
I know some Bibles include the "by Timothy" in commentaries or sectional outline titles. In any Bible which even state it in that manner are merely guessing or done in a rush to have someone associated with it.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/21/2008 8:07:12 AM
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Hi!
God bless you all for your love of God's word!
I have two KJV Bibles that have verse 13:25 ending in "Amen." One was published in 2000 by the Zondervan Corp. The other was published in 1989 by Tyndale House publishers. However these two KJV versions are both missing key information.
I also have two KJV bibles that have verse 13:25 ending in " Written to the Hebrews from Italy by Timothy." One was published in 1988 by the Kirkbride Bible Company and the other was published in 2003 by Hendrickson Publisher's and this Bible is the exact replica of the original 1611 KJV Bible.
Unfortunately some publishers have left out some very important information which is why I care so deeply for the originality of God's Word.
I believe the Word of God and I will always believe what it says over what man thinks it should say. And I do not even care if it is written in the third person or not. For I believe that if the Holy Spirit tells you to write thus then you have no choice but to write thus. Perhaps this is in part the mystery of the Bible that Jesus proclaimed when He said Luke 10:21(KJV) In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes, even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
I pray that like the jews in the synagogue at Berea that you would all - Acts 17:10,11(KJV) ....search the scriptures daily , whether those things be so.
Yours in Christ
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/21/2008 9:02:45 AM
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Hi Again!
I should also add that for those who need more proof that this verse Hebrews 13:25(KJV) is in it's entirety found in the original KJV. You can verify it as well in the Strongs Concordance just look up the word Timothy and you'll see who wrote Hebrews.
God Bless and happy treasure seeking!
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/21/2008 5:39:43 PM
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Greetings! Please notice the NIV Hebrews 13:25, the King James version of Hebrews 13:24-26 and the strongs lexicon word for word exposition of the text.
Apparently, the scholars do not include the word for word ending of Hebrews 13:25 in their translations at times. However, Paul may have had him pen the letter because he had certain difficulties scribing the words himself and we know that Timothy was with him in his ministry on many occasions as evidenced by the epistles 1&2 Timothy which are written to him regarding the continuation of the ministry that God had called him to.
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Hi Again!
I should also add that for those who need more proof that this verse Hebrews 13:25(KJV) is in it's entirety found in the original KJV. You can verify it as well in the Strongs Concordance just look up the word Timothy and you'll see who wrote Hebrews.
God Bless and happy treasure seeking!
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/21/2008 8:54:49 PM
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Then you get back to one of the original problems yet again, where the letter was from someone without firsthand information about Jesus.
Paul, Peter, and Luke should be discluded purely because of that.
And Timothy is mentioned in the letter, in 3rd person.
It says "our brother Timothy" and "Timothy has been set at liberty".
The author clearly indicates that Timothy has been recently freed from prison, and hopes to meet him and his readers at the same time.
There is absolutely no way that anyone can truly believe he wrote it, regardless if a translator decided to add that he did.
I think the evidence for Apollo looks the strongest myself.
Most of the evidence cited for Apollos stems from information contained in Acts 18:24–28. There we learn that Apollos was an Alexandrian Jew and, so, was most likely familiar with the philosophical thinking commonly seen in the development of the Epistle to the Hebrews. We further read that he was an eloquent man and “mighty in the scriptures.” Apparently, Apollos had an effective ministry in reaching the Jews by means of the Scriptures, showing that Jesus was indeed the Christ. This same thought development is basic to the book of Hebrews; many quotes from the Old Testament Scriptures are used to illustrate the excellency of Christ.
Then you have the author’s apparent identification of himself with his Jewish readers when he says “Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp” (13:13), and, “We have an altar” (13:10)
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/22/2008 9:51:36 AM
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Hello juliondeano,
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I think the real question is; Do we believe what the Bible says? or Do we trust in our own opinions and in what man has taught us?
I think most believe what the bible says. Most are not willing to believe something that has been added to the text though.
The internal evidence-3rd person Timothy- is indicative that this added subscription to the Textus Receptus is in error. This is not the only place in the TR that this occurs.
Here are some more examples of added subscriptions that are not found in other texts,which casts doubt as to whether they were ever part of the text,or an attempt at a later date to try and establish the authorship.
Pay particular attention to 1 Corinthians 16:24.
Historical study has found evidence that the subscription is false in regards to where it was written,but the internal evidence of the subscription itself shows that it was written at a later date.
"to the Corinthians,the first..." refers to this being the first letter to the Corinthians- this is a scribal note to differentiate this Epistle from the second one - 2 Corinthians 13:14 -which has a subscription indicating that it is the second one written.
Letters are much like names in one regard. I have the same name as my father ,so I am a Junior (Jr.) . My Father however wasn't called Senior (Sr.) until I was born.
Why would the letter to the Corinthians have the subscription "first" when,at the time it was written, there was no other?
It is clear that the subscriptions found at the end of epistles in the TR are not found in other manuscripts because they are not part of the letter,but an often inaccurate opinion of the Epistles origins.
(My KJV doesn't have the subscription)
Yours in Christ,
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/22/2008 10:02:08 AM
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John 17:17(KJV) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
I think the real question is; Do we believe what the Bible says? or Do we trust in our own opinions and in what man has taught us?
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord! Praise ye the Lord!
This discussion really belongs in the KJV Only thread, not here. To show the evidence for Timothy's authorship from the KJV is one thing, but to try and push the idea that the KJV is the only correct version is a different discussion and does not belong in this thread.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/22/2008 1:07:43 PM
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/22/2008 7:57:03 PM
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God bless you all for your love of His Word!
I too would be very dissatisfied as well if someone quoted scripture from their Bible that was added by the publisher. However in this particular verse (and there are others) the information has not been added by this particular publisher, but in fact has been taken away by many publishers. This verse appears in the original 1611 King James Bible, and since every Bible we have today stems from this one Bible it only serves to prove that the newer versions of Bibles we have today including some of the newer KJV's have clearly removed these words.
Therin lies your problem.
The other translations are not based from the KJV. They are from other texts in their original languages.
You are basing your assumption that the KJV is the original version, which is not the case.
The KJV editors were simply one translation, and they took liberties to add things. (1john 5:7-9 comes to mind) The line at the end of Hebrews stating it was from Timothy was one such case.
A literal word for word from the original greek transcripts does not include the line, but rather ends at "amen".
The book of Hebrews itself tells the readers about Timothy being somewhere else, by name, in the 3rd person.
If the line about being written by Timothy was in the original texts (before kjv translated it) , then it would be a contradiction, and not spiritually inspired by God. But, because the first KJV translation has it, only shows the mistakes that man is capable of. Other versions do not include it because they went back to the original texts, translated them literally, and worded them in order.
The literal translation of Hebrews 13:25 would be something to the effect of "the grace is with you all. Amen."
If you are fine with an extra line artificially added by a translator, that is up to you.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/31/2008 11:29:03 AM
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In all of his letters, Paul always starts with an introduction followed by a salutation to his audience. Hebrews does not contain that in the intro at all. The style is different from Paul, and seems to sound more like Luke. The intro to Luke and Hebrews both seem to have a similar flow to them. But, I doubt that Luke wrote this. I'm inclined to think that it was a close associate of Paul that wrote this. It is for this reason that I checked "Other" for this poll. The author is a mystery, but Hebrews is one of my favorite books in the NT (along with Romans).
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 1/31/2008 11:09:47 PM
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Something else interesting against Pauline authorship.
Every thing he wrote, Grace and Peace are together. One is a traditional Jewish greeting, the other is traditional greek. He considered himself the apostle to both, and so never once did he include one without the other in greetings and endings. But the book of Hebrews only has Grace at the end.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 2/1/2008 4:23:42 PM
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We can speculate till the cows come home, but at the end of the day...we don't know for certain who the writer of Hebrews is. I sort of like it that way. Makes it mysterious.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 2/1/2008 4:40:23 PM
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We can speculate till the cows come home, but at the end of the day...we don't know for certain who the writer of Hebrews is. I sort of like it that way. Makes it mysterious.
HD
Speculation is a good thing if it causes us to more closely examine the evidence and text of the book i.e. study harder, but it is bad if we simply make dogmatic assumption about things where the evidence simply is strong enough to reach a conclusion. Until there is a new archaeological discovery that sheds new light on this mystery, we will just have to be content knowing that we don't know; however, I hope people don't ever stop looking for an answer because someday someone may find something that sheds new light on this mystery, and even if they don't, what they do learn will be worth the effort.
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 2/1/2008 9:44:30 PM
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I remember that this was the first thing I ever questioned about what my pastor taught. He was convinced it was Paul.
I guess all we CAN be sure of is that it was NOT Paul or any of the other apostles. Look at chapter 2 verse 3: "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;"
Paul and the other apostles "heard Him" so they didn't need to have what was spoken by Him to be confirmed by 'them that heard Him'.
The problem is that we do not have many additional writings from the other people we like to think of as possible writers of it.
The best answer is: "We won't know until we get to ask God!"
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RE: Who wrote Hebrews? - 2/1/2008 9:56:49 PM
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benelchi
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ORIGINAL: Papa-san
I remember that this was the first thing I ever questioned about what my pastor taught. He was convinced it was Paul.
I guess all we CAN be sure of is that it was NOT Paul or any of the other apostles. Look at chapter 2 verse 3: "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;"
Paul and the other apostles "heard Him" so they didn't need to have what was spoken by Him to be confirmed by 'them that heard Him'.
The problem is that we do not have many additional writings from the other people we like to think of as possible writers of it.
Yes, but what we do have is always changing as new discoveries are made. Most of the oldest manuscripts we do have were only discovered in the last century, and right now their are more known archeological sites that are yet to be excavated than there are those that have already been excavated. Archeology is exciting and ever changing, who knows what will be found tomorrow?
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The best answer is: "We won't know until we get to ask God!"
The best answer is "We don't know right now, and we may have to wait to ask God or God just might let us find something first that answers that question."
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