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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/18/2008 3:27:59 PM   
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Okay ... gotta post this little blurb of my day yesterday, just cause I found it so darn obvious yet hilarious ...

My friend had a baby boy yesterday afternoon ... couldn't feed the baby for an hour until they got down to the maternity floor, as they are using formula and it's apparently against regulations to bring any into the delivery room (even if the kid is screaming uncontrollably). So baby ended up eating just after 3pm.

I got there to visit at 7, and had the babe in my arms by 7:10 ... he was somewhat awake and was rooting. I knew they were using formula, so I said to pass me a bottle and I'd feed the little guy. The dad argued that the nursing staff said they weren't allowed to feed him until 7:45 ... mom pointed out they fed their daughter every couple hours as she demanded it, but he ignored her. So I told him (since I was moody anyways, and am at the point in my pregnancy where I'm starting to leak a little) .. that I could either feed him the formula or *I* could feed him ... 'take your pick' ...

I prepped the bottle and fed the wee one, and then the nurse came in ... turns out she had said that if he hadn't woken to eat by 7:45, they would HAVE to wake and feed him. Why don't dads listen???????? (BTW, the nurse thought it was beyond hilarious that I offered that kind of ultimatum!)

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/18/2008 4:00:36 PM   
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Why don't dads listen????????


He probably just hadn't heard right. I know you weren't trying to be insensitive, but not *all* dad's don't listen. I know many many men who are wonderful attentive fathers who want the absolute best for their children. Your friend's hubby probably got confused and couldn't remember from their experience with their first child.

I definitely think that we as Christian women should be careful and mindful of how we speak about men (our hubby's and other's hubby's). They are created in Christ's image and are our authority in marriage (aside from God of course).

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/18/2008 4:16:16 PM   
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Yeah -- I just kinda ranted that way because of the encounters I've had over the past week ... all of the hubbies "heard" what was being said, but didn't pay attention for whatever reason (thinking about something else at the time, watching a show, whatever ...) What irked me is that he was arguing with his wife who HAD heard right ... but because she wasn't allowed to get out of bed due to her meds, he would have needed to get the formula for her, and he outright refused because 'he was right'.

I'm just going to attribute it to him being exceptionally tired and irritable after having all of his inlaws arguing in the room ... he is a good dad and typically attentive ... he just gets into the "I know I'm right" mode ... at the wrong times.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/18/2008 4:22:45 PM   
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I'm just going to attribute it to him being exceptionally tired and irritable after having all of his inlaws arguing in the room ... he is a good dad and typically attentive ... he just gets into the "I know I'm right" mode ... at the wrong times.
Ah! I understand. Though I know that as a woman (wife & mommy) that *I* can get into those moods as well!

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/20/2008 8:05:01 PM   
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This is the first time I have felt the let down and to me it is a little uncomfortable. It's almost the same feeling when the engorgement happens.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 7:55:14 AM   
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When I felt letdown, it almost felt like a stinging feeling

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 8:01:18 AM   
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When I felt letdown, it almost felt like a stinging feeling


Me too.
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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 11:03:34 AM   
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Since there are not many working/pumping mamas I just wanted to pass on some stuff that I have come across, maybe it can help someone. Maybe Kath can add this to the informational links page? I'll PM her.

Work & Pump This website seemed to have a lot of easy to find and read information.

I have also order the book Nursing Mother, Working Mother, it seemed helpful, I'll let ya know.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 11:09:54 AM   
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Since there are not many working/pumping mamas I just wanted to pass on some stuff that I have come across, maybe it can help someone. Maybe Kath can add this to the informational links page? I'll PM her.

Work & Pump This website seemed to have a lot of easy to find and read information.

I have also order the book Nursing Mother, Working Mother, it seemed helpful, I'll let ya know.


Keep us posted about the book. In June I will be going back to work part time and will plan to pump. I will check out the link. Thanks Erin!

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 11:37:53 AM   
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Great info, Erin. I wish I would have known all that when I was working.

I'm feeling a little discouraged today. I tried to give Jimmy a bottle of whole milk last night to gently start the weaning process, and he would only take a few sips here and there. Maybe cause it was warm, or maybe because I just nursed him? He was trying to fight sleep last night too. I'm going to try again tonight with cold milk. I really hope he takes it. I really don't want to nurse him for another year.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 11:40:59 AM   
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Great info, Erin. I wish I would have known all that when I was working.

I'm feeling a little discouraged today. I tried to give Jimmy a bottle of whole milk last night to gently start the weaning process, and he would only take a few sips here and there. Maybe cause it was warm, or maybe because I just nursed him? He was trying to fight sleep last night too. I'm going to try again tonight with cold milk. I really hope he takes it. I really don't want to nurse him for another year.

maybe he doesn't need another year, but just another month or another few weeks. Don't think of it in terms of how long, just go with daily what he needs/wants. Jack was still nursing as much as 10 times a day still back in December...and by February he was totally weaned. You never know when he will turn that page and be instantly ready. Some babies are just like that....one day they aren't anywhere near ready, and the next day they wake up a totally different person.
Have you tried doing half milk and half formula? It could be the flavor that he isn't used to/liking.


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 11:47:30 AM   
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Ahh, OK...That made me feel a lot better, Sarah.

I haven't tried half formula....He really doesn't like formula though, I tried giving him some when he was doing the biting thing a couple months ago.....I think I might pump some today and do half breastmilk as much as I HATE pumping. Sometime today I'll put a little milk in a sippy cup and see what he does. Yesterday I gave him sips of my milk from a glass and he got upset when I took it away. Maybe he just doesn't like the bottle. I haven't ordered the glass bottles yet, I'm kinda glad too. Maybe he won't even want bottles.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 11:55:55 AM   
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I haven't tried half formula....He really doesn't like formula though, I tried giving him some when he was doing the biting thing a couple months ago.....I think I might pump some today and do half breastmilk as much as I HATE pumping.

you could also try flavoring the milk a bit....maybe a tad bit (couple drops) of vanilla flavoring

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Sometime today I'll put a little milk in a sippy cup and see what he does. Yesterday I gave him sips of my milk from a glass and he got upset when I took it away. Maybe he just doesn't like the bottle. I haven't ordered the glass bottles yet, I'm kinda glad too. Maybe he won't even want bottles.

yeah if he likes the cup then go for that not the bottle...one less thing to have to break him of later on!!!! Maybe he needs you to take it slowly though....start with sippy cups during the day and work down to night time weaning...usually babies hold on to either night time or early morning feedings the longest before finally weaning totally.

Is he holding on to feedings at times when you think he is using nursing as a "comfort" time? If so then there are things you can do to replace that comfort for him and he will naturally pull away little by little. Start with day time though so that he is more comfortable with the sippy when you introduce it to him at night time


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 12:04:49 PM   
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Don't think of it in terms of how long, just go with daily what he needs/wants.

I agree. End of November/beginning of December Hunter was still nursing 4-5 times a day. Even up until his first birthday he was nursing 3 times a day usually. By the end of February he was completely weaned so while it looks like he has no intention of giving it up it could take only a matter of weeks for him too.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 2:35:02 PM   
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How old is Jimmy? It's possible that he would be able to just go to a sippy cup now if he likes them better.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 2:44:31 PM   
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He'll be a year on May 15. I was thinking the same thing about the sippy. The thing is, I'm afraid a sippy won't put him to sleep like a bottle or a boob. He won't take a paci, so I'm not exactly sure how to put him to sleep without it. I do feel he is old enough to learn to put himself to sleep in his own bed, but the thing is that the side of his crib is open with our bed pushed up to it, like a co-sleeper. I hadn't planned to put the side on his crib and push it away from our bed until he was sleeping through the night or only waking once (so I don't have to get up to put him back to sleep, lazy I know).

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 2:47:14 PM   
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I have a question. Mary nurses very well on my right side. When she feeds from the left she gets a great latch, but she always gets choked up. Many times she will lose the latch and then get chocked up. Is there anything I can do to prevent this? She will swallow so much air and there were times would cough and then spit up most of what she just took in. Many times we will stop feeding 2-3 times so she can catch her breath after coughing.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 2:55:35 PM   
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He'll be a year on May 15. I was thinking the same thing about the sippy. The thing is, I'm afraid a sippy won't put him to sleep like a bottle or a boob. He won't take a paci, so I'm not exactly sure how to put him to sleep without it. I do feel he is old enough to learn to put himself to sleep in his own bed, but the thing is that the side of his crib is open with our bed pushed up to it, like a co-sleeper. I hadn't planned to put the side on his crib and push it away from our bed until he was sleeping through the night or only waking once (so I don't have to get up to put him back to sleep, lazy I know).


Christina, you might find THIS method to be helpful.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 3:07:03 PM   
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The thing is, I'm afraid a sippy won't put him to sleep like a bottle or a boob.

like I said...there are ways to switch him over so that he still gets the comfort at times when he needs it. Here is the transition we did for Jack....
first we started with introducing the cup during the day so he was familiar with it and could use it
second we started letting him hold it at night when he would nurse
third he naturally started going back and forth between wanting to nurse and trying to use the cup
fourth he eventually stopped nursing and just wanted to use the cup
fifth he started just wanting to hold the cup, not really drink it
sixth he started wanting to pull away from my lap and have his cup in his arms still
seventh he is now more on his own (on the floor usually) and lays down nicely and goes to sleep without a cup most nights...some nights he still wants to hold it though. We only do water in the cup though, not milk or juice.
eighth (when we get to this point) will be going to bed in a room I am not sitting in....hopefully we will work up to that one in the next few months.


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 3:45:36 PM   
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Ryanne, what a good article. It was pretty funny too. I really like that idea, except I know Robert won't. He really needs his sleep, so any amount of crying in the middle of the night would make Robert a bear. Timmy was already sleeping from 7pm-7am by the time we started teaching him to go to sleep on his own. Timmy was also in another room, so I would simply turn off the baby monitor for Robert and go into Timmy's room if he woke up because he was sick or something. That was one of the reasons I was just going to wait for Jimmy sleeping through the night to teach him to sleep on his own. And, secretly I was hoping he would be one of those babies that would begin sleeping through when he got cow's milk. Yeah, so basically I can't do anything that involves any amount of crying in the middle of the night. I'm totally not opposed to teaching him to go to sleep on his own once he is sleeping through the night because there would only be crying going on for a week or whatever at 8:30pm when Robert is awake and in the living room.

Sarah, I like that idea about the sippy. I think I probably will start giving it to him while he's nursing. You put milk in it at first? What I'm thinking though is that I'll probably still continue to nurse him in the middle of the night as long as it takes for him to sleep through the night or until the cup puts him to sleep.

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/21/2008 4:36:08 PM   
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Sarah, I like that idea about the sippy. I think I probably will start giving it to him while he's nursing. You put milk in it at first?

no...we never did milk in it...we started with water. In our house we don't do milk that much (too many people and it disappears too fast)....we do milk at meals and any other time is just water. Every once in a while I will get juice, but not very often.

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What I'm thinking though is that I'll probably still continue to nurse him in the middle of the night as long as it takes for him to sleep through the night or until the cup puts him to sleep.

you will probably find that he will start with the "going to sleep" stage and work into the night time thing with the cup. I still nursed Jack at night when he woke up, but eventually he got into a routine where we could leave the cup there (water only) and if he needed a drink at night he had it and wouldn't really wake us up crying. Sometimes he actually drinks out of it...usually though he just wants to hold it now. I guess you could also do a stuffed animal or a blanket for a comfort thing...we just used the cup though because it worked best for him.


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/23/2008 6:57:32 AM   
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I think my milk is gone...

My body had adjusted quite nicely to just breastfeeding at nighttime, but last night, there just seemed to be none, and still this morning I don't think there's anything. Last night he just kept playing, and biting. In the night he was sucking, but there wasn't any swallowing.

If I keep trying to feed him, will it come back?

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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/23/2008 7:36:20 AM   
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If I keep trying to feed him, will it come back?

generally speaking, milk is produced because of his need to suck. So if baby isn't sucking then milk isn't needing to be produced. Your problem could be any number of things....things as simple as you being dehydrated, to a more complicated thing like that he has weaned. It is all about your body and his in mesh together. If you want to continue though I would suggest starting with Mother's Milk tea....make sure you are well hydrated every day...and try to keep on a schedule of nursing at the same times every day (that will help your body get back in line)...don't skip any time you can possibly avoid skipping.

considering that Chase has been congested and sick (teething), that could be the culprit there.


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/23/2008 7:46:45 AM   
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Maybe, if you can get him to suck and not bite or mess around. Or...you might just be done. Are you okay with that?

Has it been hot up there like it has here? Are you making sure to drink enough? How about allergy meds...taking any of those?


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RE: Got Mommy's Milk, Take 5 - 4/23/2008 7:49:58 AM   
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just remembered...Chase just started crawling right? It's not uncommon for babies to get freedom and then change their eating habits....so it could simply be that he isn't eating the way he was a few weeks ago. It could be a combination of his new abilities and his teething (that could hurt him to suck). Hopefully he will adjust quickly though....and for sure keep yourself hydrated.

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