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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/6/2008 2:51:52 PM   
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I have a masters in vocal music performance and am preparing to start work on my doctor of musical arts in vocal pedagogy. I've had vocal pedagogy and advanced vocal pegadody, taught voice privately and taught voice at a local state university.
So maybe we use different meanings of "vocal fry". Our musical pedagogues prefer to use the term "strohbass" and mean exactly what I described (vibration of gristle instead of cords is producing sound). But maybe "strohbass" and "vocal fry" aren't synonymous?

P.S. A better example of strohbass: http://people.mills.edu/toda/music/analysis_stroh.html
P.P.S. An example of Evenk singing, they use strohbass: http://lofi.mp3express.ru/61185.mp3

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/6/2008 3:07:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tenor247

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I know its possible, but JD is the only man I know for sure who has recorded a double low C.



JD is the only one to ever RECORD that note....but Mike Holcomb of the Inspirations can record that note and lower anytime he pleases. He is just not interested in that recognition. Mike is the lowest and best going today. Listen to their song "If you only Knew"....hes still got it.


I believe he recorded the note on their live reunion project.

Paul David Kenamer has also recorded the note, I believe.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/6/2008 3:14:43 PM   
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Paul David Kenamer has also recorded the note, I believe.
Paul has recorded a B0, there was a link to mp3 on the 7th page.

Mike Holcomb singing a C1 in "Hide Me Rock of Ages":
http://www.primefan.ru/stuff/music/samples/holcomb.mp3
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/7/2008 6:48:22 PM   
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So maybe we use different meanings of "vocal fry".
That's the case, according to the article:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basso_profondo#Il_vocal_fry

However, in this meaning, all bass singers discussed here use this technique at least below G1, because there's a physiological limit. So the question "who is the lowest" is senseless until we accept well-trained vocal fry (i.e. which sounds musical).
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/9/2008 4:32:06 PM   
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I've heard Mike Holcomb go very very low. Don't know what his lowest note is, does anyone?
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/9/2008 6:13:07 PM   
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I've heard Mike Holcomb go very very low. Don't know what his lowest note is, does anyone?


Not Sure, but its at the bottom of the keys, ive seen them goofing off, and it was AMAZING!!!

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/9/2008 6:34:04 PM   
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He sings the lowest C on the piano regularly (many nights) and can go lower on occasion.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/9/2008 6:43:14 PM   
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Back in the Gospel Singing Jubilee Days the Inspirations would swap parts and Mike would sing Lead on "Jesus Cs Coming Soon" and Troy Burns the second original bass singer of the the group would sing the bass part. The last group I sang in I would sing tenor on one song so we could be a male trio for that one song because our group was a mixed group. i cant sing real high, but as long as I dont have to do octave highs the I can sing just about any song. F below low C where I can cosistanly hit a low note and not worry. Steve Warren during his time with ehe Mastrs V did a sola album singing all parts.



Uh excuse me but Troy was the ORIGINAL bass. Marlin Shubert was the second and Mike is actually the third bass to sing with the Inspirations (you can't count the time Ray Dean was supposedly one of them).

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/9/2008 8:30:34 PM   
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He sings the lowest C on the piano regularly (many nights) and can go lower on occasion.


THATS LOW!!!! Mike Holcomb definitely one of the best.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 9:09:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: danielmount

He sings the lowest C on the piano regularly (many nights) and can go lower on occasion.



Based on what I listened to here

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original: Mike Holcomb singing a C1 in "Hide Me Rock of Ages":
http://www.primefan.ru/stuff/music/samples/holcomb.mp3


Mike does not sing the lowest C every night he growls it. Now I admit Mike is a very good bass, I just can't agree with the statement Mike or anyone who uses Vocal Fry, is singing the ultra low notes so to speak.

I also asked Aaron McCune, at the Hayne Tatum concert in Spartanburg, SC last Saturday night, about vocal fry and he explained it to me by doing it for me. He DOES NOT use it but merely was showing me what it sounds like. He also verified (as several others have said) that Tim Riley DOES NOT use vocal fry at all.

I now understand what Vocal Fry is and how it sounds, but IMHO it is still just a glorified growl .

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 9:39:31 AM   
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He sings the lowest C on the piano regularly (many nights) and can go lower on occasion.



Young Man

At the age of 75 I believe I know what is singing and what is not. I too listened to the link from Droog_Andrey and that is without a doubt not singing. No offense, but to my ears, It sounds more like someone clearing their throat.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 10:44:01 AM   
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Young Man

At the age of 75 I believe I know what is singing and what is not. I too listened to the link from Droog_Andrey and that is without a doubt not singing. No offense, but to my ears, It sounds more like someone clearing their throat.

Herbert


I'm with you, that was just foul to my ears!
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 12:59:07 PM   
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You all sure are passionate about your bass singers
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 1:26:21 PM   
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You all sure are passionate about your bass singers



I am new to this forum stuff. All I said was it didn't sound like singing.
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 1:31:31 PM   
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I'm a TRIO fan! No growling for me!!!!

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 1:49:34 PM   
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I have to agree with Uncle Herb, Russell, & querty, that is growling and I really like Mike Holcomb. But as I stated in another post earlier, I like bass when it is sang, not growled.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 3:59:53 PM   
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Wow.... I didn't expect this to be such a fight!

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 4:31:18 PM   
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No fight Matt, just people giving their opinion of bass "singing" & just plain "growling."


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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 4:59:18 PM   
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Ok...

Well, (so I have peace of mind) many of you have heard my demo, do you consider that growling?

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 5:06:12 PM   
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I have stayed out of this debate. And to be honest I had to go back and listen to your demo again Matt. I personally do not consider it growling however I like the second verse better than the first verse. There was a couple of spots on the first verse I thought might be a little low for your best voice. Nothing negative intended.

That being said you can sing bass with me anytime.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 8:10:54 PM   
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Ok...

Well, (so I have peace of mind) many of you have heard my demo, do you consider that growling?



Matt I have to agree with qtman. Good voice though

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 9:06:14 PM   
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Matt,
I'm speaking here strictly as a voice teacher. The first note you sing sounds like vocal fry, or, as some folks might call it, growling. I would rather hear you sing up in your chest voice, which sounds very nice. I'd like to hear you sing that about a major third higher and let 'er rip. JMO. Don't mean anything negative, it's not awful, I would just rather hear you really sing.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/14/2008 9:33:01 PM   
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Matt,

I liked it just as it is, and I'm sure I'd like it if you did it lower or higher as well.

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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/15/2008 9:11:16 AM   
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There will never be another JD.There is one person that comes to mind,Richard Sterban with the Oak Ridge Boys.I know they are mostly country but have been singing alot of gospel lately.Richard Sterban was with the Stamps in the early 70's and learned alot from JD.Thanks for reading,Dwayne
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RE: Lowest down current bass singer - 1/15/2008 10:07:10 AM   
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Thanks all, just wondering!

Oh... and don't worry... i like constructive criticism! (as long as it's honest!)

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