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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/2/2007 10:46:25 PM
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Memaw.
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Romans 14
5 In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable.
6 Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/3/2007 12:02:26 AM
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Butch39
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Of course not. It is wrong, though, if you're going because you have to. It is best, of course, to regularly come together with other believers in corporate worship and to exercise your gifts for the benefit of the body, but to stay home and rest honors the spirit and intent of the Sabbath Day rest. If you're going to make it a rule that you must go, then you must go on Saturday because that is the day of the Sabbarth even though we now come together and worship corporately on The Lord's Day instead.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/3/2007 2:17:28 AM
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I respect the church. Its part of our christian walk, an important part but...
its not the only part.
If you miss church, have church at home. Pray with your family or do devotions or just a bible study.
Church ain't the end all be all christian experience. I know many pastors want your fannies in his seats on Sunday for a variety of reasons, probably mostly good and some...not so good.
Church...is not God and is not our god. Its where we corporately worship God, equip the saints, provide ministries and outreaches. Its important. Its just not all there is.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/3/2007 9:23:14 AM
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Is it wrong? No.
Will God love you any less? No.
Are you sinning? No.
Should a believer congregate with a local body of believers? Yes.
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The ongoing Irony... - 7/3/2007 2:22:17 PM
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Like SO... Many... topics on the Crossdaily forums...
The ones who SHOULD ponder (and consider changing their non-preparedness - staying up half the nite Saturday for example - to go to church or to be generally USEFUL in God's kingdom - are the very ones most likely to BLOW THIS THREAD OFF!...
while, those wheelchair bound, suffering debilitating illness or coping with the demands of single parenthood and job settings that require long hours are likely to feel (falsely) guilty about their lack of attendance...
It reminds me of Parent/Teacher interviews when the VERY PARENTS who MOST NEED to get involved with their kids lives are the ones who SKIP the interviews!
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RE: The ongoing Irony... - 7/3/2007 8:28:14 PM
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while, those wheelchair bound, suffering debilitating illness or coping with the demands of single parenthood and job settings that require long hours are likely to feel (falsely) guilty about their lack of attendance...
so, so true..thank you....
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A "good talk" with our backpocket deity! - 7/4/2007 9:31:05 AM
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If we force ourselves to worship, or to do anything too much, we begin to resent that activity.
Actually C.S. Lewis spoke about the unpopular topic of spiritual discipline...
Firstly he recognized that humans are "undulating" creatures, subject to ups and downs physically, emotionally and spiritually...
Thus he pointed out that if we always wait until we "FEEL" like it, our "worship" will be a sad parody of real worship and our God (to use my phrase) will become the sort of "back pocket" god we bring out on occasions that suit us.
There actually was a country and western song many years ago that had phrases like this....
"The lord knows I'm sinnin', and sinnin' ain't right!...but ME AND THE GOOD LORD are gonna have a Good Talk Tonite!"
So...different eras and geographical locations of man...we vacillate...
A) Going up the steps of cathedrals (intentionally sprinkled with shards of glass) on bloodied knees (Martin Luther before grace)
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B) boozin' and whorin' and haulin' out our back pocket deity when it suits us
Wow! Isn't a good thing the Lord is patient with this silly human race?
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/4/2007 2:17:50 PM
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there is not one sinle thing or anything period to keep me from going to my second home and being with my second family being handicapped is no excuse I am blind in the lefthalf of each eye my left hand did not fully develop and I am not supposed to be on my feet long periods of time does not stop mefrom being a assoc sunday school teacher, a usher and a leader in our childrens ministery God Created you to worship him and you can not give him time or go to his house because you are 2 tired
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/4/2007 3:58:43 PM
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Good for you!
We have a faithful member of our church that is handicapped and he's always there. He can't drive a car, but he takes a scooter to church in nice weather and gets a ride during bad weather. He's an usher, too, and a choir member. I think his determination to get to church is great.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/4/2007 4:15:53 PM
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Well...I am flat on by back with severe back pain sometimes and cannot make it. I need a spinal fusion and am too frightened of that surgery because someone told me that they heard of someone who woke up screaming in pain following that surgery......
My conscience is clear. My Jesus sooo understands.
I love church. Just because I cannot go....oh well......I will leave it at that.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/4/2007 4:24:46 PM
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there is not one sinle thing or anything period to keep me from going to my second home and being with my second family being handicapped is no excuse I am blind in the lefthalf of each eye my left hand did not fully develop and I am not supposed to be on my feet long periods of time does not stop mefrom being a assoc sunday school teacher, a usher and a leader in our childrens ministery God Created you to worship him and you can not give him time or go to his house because you are 2 tired
That's wonderful. I'm glad you're able to go. I wish that I always had that kind of strength and determination.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/4/2007 4:26:34 PM
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being handicapped is no excuse
It is not an excuse with me. Being handicapped and staying home from church (although I go most of the time) does not make me any less spiritual than someone who goes to church with their handicap.
Your statement is quite broadbrushed and, frankly, offensive to me...You do not have my handicap, nor do I have yours.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/4/2007 8:40:51 PM
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Your statement is quite broadbrushed and, frankly, offensive to me...You do not have my handicap, nor do I have yours.
You are quite correct. There are people who have no way to get to church, yet they are still loved by God and they remain strong in their faith.
My late birthmother had a cancerous brain tumor that had been removed. She had a hard time walking and couldn't drive at all. Unless someone would give her a ride to church, she couldn't go. Most Sundays people were "too busy" to give her a ride. Sometimes the pain was so bad that she couldn't go even if she had a ride. She went when she could. The last 10 months of her life were spent in a nursing home. Some of her visitors or myself would read the Bible to her. Some times the pastor would come visit her. Some times myself or her other visitors would take her to services offered in the home- until it got to where we couldn't get her out of bed without putting her in extreme pain.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/5/2007 12:36:21 AM
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Memaw.
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You don't have to go to church to visit with God.
You can do that anywhere.
Church is for the fellowship/gathering of the brothers and sisters.
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/5/2007 5:28:24 AM
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This kinda amazes me....why doesn't your church give you a ride to church, if its a ride that keeps you from coming?
Are your sermons recorded? If so, is there any way your church can get you the sermons?
Are there no outreaches to the homebound in your church?
It kinda....floors....me that your church would leave you home without caring about you. If it was me? Time to find a real christian church.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/5/2007 5:44:16 AM
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Well...I am flat on by back with severe back pain sometimes and cannot make it. I need a spinal fusion and am too frightened of that surgery because someone told me that they heard of someone who woke up screaming in pain following that surgery...... People like this (the person who told you they heard) kinda floors me and my instant reaction is a desire to deck them... If this is what you are most afraid of regarding the surgery, then you need to speak with your doctor about it ~ and your surgeon if you can ~ and see if your surgeon can get you together with some people who've had the operation...
It really is like the woman who announces she's pregnant and suddenly there are all these other (yes deckable) women giving her scare stories about pregnancy and labour! There are some very foolish people around. Please try and deal with this fear so you can have the op...
Now, as for missing church...
I don't believe it's a problem to miss church if you're so tired that you don't know which way is up. I wonder if they record the sermon so you could get a copy and listen to it at some other time?
It may be a problem though if people believe they are too tired to go if they're just wanting to avoid others or because they've committed some sin or something ~ I don't know you, and am not assuming that these are the reasons you're not going, just saying why some don't go.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/6/2007 6:49:35 PM
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I have not read all the repliesbut what if Jesus said he was too tired and also ever heard of David Ring
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/6/2007 9:50:36 PM
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Even our Messiah knew when He was tired. He would get on the boat and get away.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/7/2007 3:22:22 PM
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FairviewBaptist
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in Gods word the bible he commands us to go to church
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/7/2007 7:26:13 PM
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Hischild1994
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Would we recommend that someone go to church if they had a contagious, airborne illness?
Would we recommend that someone go to church if they had a non-contagious illness?
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/7/2007 7:30:23 PM
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there is not one sinle thing or anything period to keep me from going to my second home and being with my second family being handicapped is no excuse I am blind in the lefthalf of each eye my left hand did not fully develop and I am not supposed to be on my feet long periods of time does not stop mefrom being a assoc sunday school teacher, a usher and a leader in our childrens ministery God Created you to worship him and you can not give him time or go to his house because you are 2 tired
FAIRVIEW BAPTIST - You cannot compare your self with another person, she is not just "2 tired". She does what she can and would go if she could.
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RE: Is it wrong to stay home from church if your tired? - 7/7/2007 7:42:17 PM
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there is not one sinle thing or anything period to keep me from going to my second home and being with my second family being handicapped is no excuse I am blind in the lefthalf of each eye my left hand did not fully develop and I am not supposed to be on my feet long periods of time does not stop mefrom being a assoc sunday school teacher, a usher and a leader in our childrens ministery God Created you to worship him and you can not give him time or go to his house because you are 2 tired
FAIRVIEW BAPTIST - You cannot compare your self with another person, she is not just "2 tired". She does what she can and would go if she could.
Exactly.
For some people church is the best thing for them and they never miss no matter the circumstances.
For others, they have to miss occassionally. They know their boundaries.
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If we force ourselves to worship, or to do anything too much, we begin to resent that activity.
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