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RE: Persecution in America? - 4/16/2008 10:13:47 AM
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drcain
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ORIGINAL: Marcus.
From my understanding of the word, one person can persecute another. Whether or not recourse is possible is immaterial.
I concure with this statement, if one needs an example of this, ask a former slave.
< Message edited by drcain -- 4/16/2008 10:21:23 AM >
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RE: Persecution in America? - 5/17/2008 11:08:02 AM
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Court scolds city for 'hostility' toward church
Federal judge finds fault with planners seeking to zone out house of worship
Posted: May 16, 2008
9:50 pm Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
A federal court has taken the unusual step of criticizing San Diego for its "outright hostility" toward a Rancho Bernardo church and its failure to consider "relevant federal law." The dispute arose when Grace Church of North County approached officials with a plan to lease space in the same complex where a pair of religious institutions earlier operated. It was too much for city officials. First, the Rancho Bernardo community planning board tried to deny Grace Church a 10-year permit for the property. A San Diego city officer, however, approved a 7-year permit, compelling the board to appeal. Though community planners knew Grace Church needed 10 years to complete a long-term relocation plan, they whittled the permit down to five years, and made it non-renewable.
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RE: Persecution in America? - 5/17/2008 11:09:19 AM
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Military honchos 'suppress' chaplain's Baptist services
Was told being 'born again' has 'no place' in Army life
Posted: May 16, 2008
8:35 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
An investigation is being sought by a Christian church organization in the United States after the U.S. Army deliberately shut down a service one of its sponsored chaplains was running for U.S. military service personnel at Forward Operating Base Loyalty in Iraq.
The complaint by Associated Gospel Churches, a fellowship of Independent Fundamental Christian churches, has been forwarded to the Army by U.S. Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., seeking an Army Inspector General investigation.
Rev. G. William Baugham, the chairman of the AGC's commission on chaplains, told WND that the circumstances are particularly egregious since it appears it was a representative from another Christian denomination that closed down the service that had been operated at FOB Loyalty by Chaplain Stuart Kazarovich, who has been endorsed by the AGC.
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RE: Persecution in America? - 5/18/2008 1:30:23 AM
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Thank you for posting these stories, Marcus. I think if I remember correctly without going back and re-reading the entire thread, there was a poster who said that persecution of Christians didn't happen in America because when somebody tries anything, Christians have a legal recourse to stop it, and usually the situation is corrected. That appears to have happened in both of these cases, but I do believe both situations rise to the level of actual persecution against Christians.
I am very thankful that so far in our country these things can still be corrected, that laws still favor our freedom. But that doesn't mean that persecution isn't happening. Think about it this way. Imagine a kid in a school getting a black eye from a bully because he is overweight, or because he is not good at sports, or for whatever reason. A teacher then steps in and punishes the bully. I think the kid with the black eye would still say he was persecuted.
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RE: Persecution in America? - 5/18/2008 10:06:37 AM
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I agree. We have a very vocal and militant minority attempting to silence the majority customs and beliefs because they disagree. Along with folks who are afraid of lawsuits and won't take a stand for Constitutionally protected rights. Hence these cases.
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