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ORIGINAL: IC.InChrist

Hey all & HI,,

What can we know about these things and what makes a person fit into what you expect the foretold antichrist to be like in his actions and the events surrounding him.

Is he from the Middle East, Russia, the EU, Rome or the USA. What is spoken and written that lets us see if any of these men mentioned fit the bill, perhaps by looking at these things we can narrow down the list of names and who doesn't fit.

The wound to the head gets raised as one of the factors to identify this man yet is it a physical wound to his actual head or a wound to the Nation or seat that he represents.

The Hollywood version of events would like us to think that a man will get shot, JFK style and somehow he will return back to life claiming to be God or Jesus returned. Yet would we as Christians believe such a thing and follow him as the returned saviour. I would hope not, for we know that the man of sin must be revealed before Christ returns so to have a man claim to be Christ before the man of sin is revealed would seem rather odd and false to say the least.

What if it is not an actual head wound but some other kind of other wound, sometimes the best way to hide something is to have it placed in the open for all to see.

There has only been one wound that has caught the minds of people all around the world and in turn has caused a domino effect on all nations since that time. That event in my eyes was 9/11 and it was a wound that affected not only America, The White House, W but all of us in some way.

W, speech - 11th October 2001- Pentagon.

The hijackers were instruments of evil who died in vain. Behind them is a cult of evil which seeks to harm
the innocent and thrives on human suffering. Theirs is the worst kind of cruelty, the cruelty that is fed, not
weakened, by tears. Theirs is the worst kind of violence, pure malice, while daring to claim the authority of
God. We cannot fully understand the designs and power of evil. It is enough to know that evil, like goodness,
exists. And in the terrorists, evil has found a willing servant.

In New York, the terrorists chose as their target a symbol of America's freedom and confidence. Here, they
struck a symbol of our strength in the world. And the attack on the Pentagon, on that day, was more
symbolic than they knew. It was on another September 11th -- September 11th, 1941 -- that construction on
this building first began. America was just then awakening to another menace: The Nazi terror in Europe.



And I give you these commitments. The wound to this building will not be forgotten, but it will be repaired.
Brick by brick, we will quickly rebuild the Pentagon. (Applause.) In the missions ahead for the military, you
will have everything you need, every resource, every weapon -- (applause) -- every means to assure full
victory for the United States and the cause of freedom. (Applause.)




W has spoken of the wound to the Pentagon and the symbolism behind it on the day it was attacked and its outer ring broken.

So it would seem clear that W does fit the bill for the wound as he even mentions it himself in his speech.

The scriptures speak of the wound to its head and the beasts role in this wound.

Rev13

3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?



W @ Congress- 20 Septmeber 2001

On September the 11th, enemies of freedom committed an act of war against our country.
Americans have known wars, but for the past 136 years they have been wars on foreign soil,
except for one Sunday in 1941. Americans have known the casualties of war, but not at the
center of a great city on a peaceful morning.

Americans have known surprise attacks, but never before on thousands of civilians.

All of this was brought upon us in a single day, and night fell on a different world, a world
where freedom itself is under attack.

Americans have many questions tonight. Americans are asking, "Who attacked our country?"


I will not forget the wound to our country and those who inflicted it. I will not yield, I will not
rest, I will not relent in waging this struggle for freedom and security for the American people




Rev 13

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.



speak soon,
till then Cheerio,,
yours In Christ.

God Bless.

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I have to disagree with you about the 9/11 tragedy. This country was not fatally wounded.

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I don't understand why people think this has to do with America. I would agree only if our dollar is worth less the dirt, our stock markets collapse, our economy plundges, unemployment is just about everyone in America, and we are attacked on all sides. And then our dollar suddenly soars over the Euro, our stock markets are the prize of the world, our economy is strong beyond all imagination and no one is unemployed and all countries start worshiping America. Then I will believe we have something to do with the fatally wounded theory about our country.

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My thoughts exactly heavenwards...I dont know why so many Americans (and I know I'm generalising here) feel that 9/11 is so important

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So much attention is given to it WAY more than its worth while we forget all about events like the Boxing Day Tsunami! Or does nobody remember those tragedies anymore....

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

The anti christ has always been here since the beginning,

the mark of the beast is the beast within, its the number of man instead of SPIRIT, if people do not believe in God now, how could one man say he is and these people be brainwashed, it's doing satan deeds and thinking satan thoughts is what it is, THE BEAST WITHIN

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

it says buy and sell yes but only those with the mark of the beast, line it up with revelations 7"14, about coming out of tribulation, and the sun not beating down on them. How could you think a merciful and loving God would leave people here to witness this? Do you honestly see Christ in that?

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

Wes have you read the plagues? DO THEY REPENT? NO, they don't, throughout the plagues they keep going and going and going!!!!

the mark of the beast is the mark of MAN, not spirit, it is the BEAST within,

it says so in scriptures Wes that they DO NOT REPENT, and 7 # 14 says it all, they come out, and NO SUN, not part sun,

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

1 "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

so you do not see distress right now? You do not see rapes, child molestations, murder, etc???

delivered into truth, the seals on the forehead dear is them coming to Christ so they will not be left here. they know now the truth,

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

Wes have you read the plagues? DO THEY REPENT? NO, they don't, throughout the plagues they keep going and going and going!!!!

the mark of the beast is the mark of MAN, not spirit, it is the BEAST within,

it says so in scriptures Wes that they DO NOT REPENT, and 7 # 14 says it all, they come out, and NO SUN, not part sun,

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.

but where do you see Christ saying that is during the tribulation? they are taken then IT COMES

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

are you enduring Wes? I have had my food poisoned, do you call that enduring?

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14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

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ORIGINAL: prophetlady

if Hitler could not do it Wes, why would you think someone can? Please answer this truthfully, he tried to take over the world and did not succeed, but you believe one man is going to do this, please explain how that is possible?

look at WACO, how many believed he was really Christ? what like 50, how many do you think will believe one man is God?

it makes NO SENSE

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I don't understand why people think this has to do with America. I would agree only if our dollar is worth less the dirt, our stock markets collapse, our economy plundges, unemployment is just about everyone in America, and we are attacked on all sides. And then our dollar suddenly soars over the Euro, our stock markets are the prize of the world, our economy is strong beyond all imagination and no one is unemployed and all countries start worshiping America. Then I will believe we have something to do with the fatally wounded theory about our country.

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Could you post the scripture for the things you have mentioned above that would change your mind? In relation to your comment above.