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RE: Juanita Bynum - 11/20/2006 9:58:10 PM
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amen, brother!!!
well if Jesus already told us we would have these things, then they're gonna come. If we're happening to live in the time foretold, we have to be strong to deal with it.
(((i know i said this before, but Juanita seems just too pretty and beautiful and a beautiful voice to be caught up in this mess,,, its a shame... i guess i too really felt blessed with her singing))) When I saw her on TV, she was singing the Shekinah Glory (choir) song "Yes" and it will move you to tears. its a song about total surrender to God. hmmm i think the words of the song are a blessing,, but she really could sing that song and make ya go to tears. I cant stand the thought that she is what folks are saying she is. I have to go by faith to deal with my sadness for her.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 11/21/2006 12:51:04 PM
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andrewsjoy.. its weird, but if we are living "in the last days" (((NOT TO GET OFF TOPIC!))) but we will have to endure these people. I wish on one hand that there werent' so many, but on the other hand, maybe these things just need to be.. i still am wondering how they became so prevalent in the last 10 years.. they were not there too much when I was a young adult. well there was Popov, Rev Ike, and a few others... but they were the exception. now they're everywhere! yikes!!!!
I read on a website where this man was giving examples of about 20 WOF preachers, and at the end there were comments. People were blasting him and accusing him of not belieiving in God's blessings etc.... wow man.. i could find the link but its at home.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 11/21/2006 1:52:25 PM
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Ha! When I was a young adult it was Jim and Tammy Baker and Jimmy Swaggart. And I had roomates that got into WOF. And the Assemblies of God had to release a position paper refuting "name it and claim it."
So...yeah...this is nothing new. There's been on-the-edge Christian movements ever since the early church.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 11/21/2006 2:39:08 PM
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And the Assemblies of God had to release a position paper refuting "name it and claim it."
That was a joke. I can name at least a half dozen AoG churches in my area alone that teach WoF doctrine. The son of some good friends of ours dropped out of a class at Southwestern U (AoG college) in Texas, because the instructor was a supporter of Benny Hinn
They also released a position paper refuting the movement to restore the offices of Apostle and Prophet (Latter Rain) to the church. But the pastor of the largest AoG church in the US embraces this movement, as does the head of the AoG in Australia.
That's why I left the AoG, among other reasons.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 11/21/2006 2:55:24 PM
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As much as I disagree with the AOG and it's theology and teachings (I grew up aog)...
Many churches DO NOT support WOF preaching.
It was taught against where i grew up.
be careful not to generalize when attempting to bring truth. bringing the whole truth is extreamly important.
I apologize if I appeared to be generalizing. But because the AoG is a "cooperative fellowship" and not a denomination, they give their churches more freedom. Unfortuantely that opens it up to allowing abberent teaching to creep in
Remember, The AoG supported the fiasco that was Brownsville
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 11/21/2006 3:41:30 PM
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I apologize if I appeared to be generalizing. But because the AoG is a "cooperative fellowship" and not a denomination, they give their churches more freedom. Unfortuantely that opens it up to allowing abberent teaching to creep in
Unfortunately, yes. They take official positions against WOF and Later Rain but because of their hands-off tendencies towards individual churches, these things can creep in. There are AoG churches that are very solid in their teachings and others who are not. And of course, just as some of us on the forums have realized, things like Later Rain have kind of crept in in the evangelical/pentecostal/charismatic world without many of us recognizing it.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 1/11/2007 2:56:51 PM
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Here is a short clip of the kind of things Juanita bynum teaches. www.denniseversen.com/sermons/chanel.mp3 (Hope the link works ok.)
She is talking about Jesus casting out demons. First she states that the demons said they have to be in flesh or they are illegal. Were dose it say that in scripture? And if all demons have to be in flesh, what about angles? Do they have to be in flesh as well? After all demons are fallen angels. Then she say’s the bible said, “When Satan had finished his course” I could not find that in any Bibles! Can you? Then she goes off on the fact that Demons have a course they have to go through and we are to see to it they finish their course???
Can you find that in the Bible? She then say’s Satan does not always come against us but he comes to teach us.
I thought Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach us all things? Is she right or is Jesus? It cannot be both!!!
Then she say’s we are to channel the workings of the evil spirits. I do not think any true Christians believe in channeling spirits!!
please LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. p.s. I got more were hthat came from.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 1/11/2007 3:01:35 PM
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Here is a short clip of the kind of things Juanita bynum teaches. www.denniseversen.com/sermons/chanel.mp3 (Hope the link works ok.)
She is talking about Jesus casting out demons. First she states that the demons said they have to be in flesh or they are illegal. Were dose it say that in scripture? And if all demons have to be in flesh, what about angles? Do they have to be in flesh as well? After all demons are fallen angels. Then she say’s the bible said, “When Satan had finished his course” I could not find that in any Bibles! Can you? Then she goes off on the fact that Demons have a course they have to go through and we are to see to it they finish their course???
Can you find that in the Bible? She then say’s Satan does not always come against us but he comes to teach us.
I thought Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach us all things? Is she right or is Jesus? It cannot be both!!!
Then she say’s we are to channel the workings of the evil spirits. I do not think any true Christians believe in channeling spirits!!
please LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. p.s. I got more were hthat came from.
Well done!!
Thanks for the sample of Juanita Bynum's false teaching. It's always great to hear it directly from the false teacher's own lips.
Be prepared to be attacked from her supporters. It doesn't matter that you provided direct audio from her
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 1/11/2007 3:11:17 PM
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Here is a short clip of the kind of things Juanita bynum teaches. www.denniseversen.com/sermons/chanel.mp3 (Hope the link works ok.)
She is talking about Jesus casting out demons. First she states that the demons said they have to be in flesh or they are illegal. Were dose it say that in scripture? And if all demons have to be in flesh, what about angles? Do they have to be in flesh as well? After all demons are fallen angels. Then she say’s the bible said, “When Satan had finished his course” I could not find that in any Bibles! Can you? Then she goes off on the fact that Demons have a course they have to go through and we are to see to it they finish their course???
Can you find that in the Bible? She then say’s Satan does not always come against us but he comes to teach us.
I thought Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach us all things? Is she right or is Jesus? It cannot be both!!!
Then she say’s we are to channel the workings of the evil spirits. I do not think any true Christians believe in channeling spirits!!
please LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. p.s. I got more were hthat came from.
Well done!!
Thanks for the sample of Juanita Bynum's false teaching. It's always great to hear it directly from the false teacher's own lips.
Be prepared to be attacked from her supporters. It doesn't matter that you provided direct audio from her
That is a great a point but it is also helpful in knowing what kind of teacher she is. Watch the kind of atacks her followers use. They will almost always say you should not judge others and then go into a personal atack of person that has pointed out the false teaching. They baicly say "Don't judge us we'll judge you". You will know them by there fruit.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 4/8/2007 5:42:43 PM
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Perhaps the one spiritual virtue that is sadly lacking in the Christian community today is DISCERNMENT. If we as Christians would only open our eyes and realize that everything that purports to be of God is not of God and must be tested according to God's standard, then I believe we would not be jumping on all the bandwagons that pull up to our gates. Our modus operandi seems to be...well, they're famous, they're on TV, look at their clothes, look at the rocks on their hands, look at their following (the numbers), look how prosperous they are. IT MUST BE OF GOD. NO!! The fact that this woman has aligned herself with the likes of the Crouches is telling. Those of you that are part of Bynum's adoring public please don't jump on my case. I'm merely a fruit inspector, and as a Christian I have every right to inspect fruit. The common thread throughout these ministries is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. I'm sick and tired of hearing...send me your last dollar so that God can prosper you. I feel pretty confident that these folks would not empty their accounts of their millions even if God himself told them to.
It's a crying shame that too many in the Christian community instead of testing the spirits as we're commanded to are quick to run to the defense of these shysters. Sometimes I get the impression that even if Christ himself came down and condemned these "prophets" their supporters would jump all over him too. These folks are nothing more than well-dressed shysters. What they are practicing is nothing new. The Bible is replete with stories of these kinds of people, and we are told that in the last days this kind of apostacy would increase. There's even one in Florida calling himself Jesus Christ, and idiotic so-called Christians are flocking in droves to see him and lavish him with gifts and money. Too many of us have taken leave of what sense we have, and we obviously have not taken time to read what God's word says and so we fall for this old, tired game hook, line and sinker.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 4/8/2007 5:57:43 PM
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(((i know i said this before, but Juanita seems just too pretty and beautiful and a beautiful voice to be caught up in this mess,,, its a shame... i guess i too really felt blessed with her singing))) When I saw her on TV, she was singing the Shekinah Glory (choir) song "Yes" and it will move you to tears. its a song about total surrender to God. hmmm i think the words of the song are a blessing,, but she really could sing that song and make ya go to tears. I cant stand the thought that she is what folks are saying she is. I have to go by faith to deal with my sadness for her.
The same could be said of Lucifer. He had all the attributes you ascribe to Bynum -- and to the nth degree. Look where it got him. Don't judge by appearances because God doesn't. I hope that is not how you evaluate people as a general rule.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 4/9/2007 2:51:41 PM
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The Teachings of Juanita Bynum
Blogging Bynum
"You need to send a thousand dollars. If you can’t send a thousand, send five hundred… if all you have is a nickel, wrap it in tissue and put it in an envelope. If all you have is your clothes, send them.”
“If you want the power, you have to sow the seed
“We’re going together into a spirit of wealth.”
“Last night, you sowed to your ability. Tonight, you sow beyond your ability.”
“‘I need [to give] because I need favor. I need it because I need an anointing. I need it because I need power.’” (Her speaking for the people who give to her tonight.)
“‘I’m giving because I want my daughters to be daughters of Zion.’” (Again speaking for those who are giving to her.)
“You’ve got three days to get that into your mailbox. I’m not afraid to say this. I am walking in my authority… if you don’t postmark it by the tenth, we will not accept it. [I’d like confirmation of that.] God says you have three days to get your thousand-dollar seed in the mail.”
“Give it to me and you will live. Give it to me and you will have more than enough.” (She claims to be speaking for the Lord, actually.)
“If all you have is $79.36, I double-dare you to empty your bank account. Close your account.”
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 4/10/2007 1:58:28 PM
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The same could be said of Lucifer. He had all the attributes you ascribe to Bynum -- and to the nth degree. Look where it got him. Don't judge by appearances because God doesn't. I hope that is not how you evaluate people as a general rule.
Nah! just disappointed at one i considered beautiful ... to be such a disappointment. I just heard her singing and that was #1 so beautiful ,,, well she has a pretty face too... and then so i was just shocked upon further investigation, it was just a let down.
I dont mean to sound shallow but thats just my impressions hitting me.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 5/3/2007 9:13:08 PM
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It does not surprise me at all to hear this about JB. That is why we should follow Jesus and his teachings. Not man's. I have stopped looking at televangelists altogether.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 5/8/2007 1:30:11 PM
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first off, i'm not saying that she is NOT wrong. that has been made clear. I just had one question.
no one in the NT had a degree or anything stating that they were "trained" to be preachers or anything else. they were called by God and they went around preaching the gospel and that was that. why have we made it a requirement to have some sort of piece of paper stating that we are allowed to preach the gospel? i'm confused.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 5/8/2007 5:58:04 PM
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first off, i'm not saying that she is NOT wrong. that has been made clear. I just had one question.
no one in the NT had a degree or anything stating that they were "trained" to be preachers or anything else. they were called by God and they went around preaching the gospel and that was that. why have we made it a requirement to have some sort of piece of paper stating that we are allowed to preach the gospel? i'm confused.
A degree is not an absolute requrement to preach the gospel. As mentioned earlier, requirements do vary depending on the church and/or denomination. Now as it relates to the topic, I don't beleive that anyone is trying to imply that a person MUST have some form of certiciation or degree to be considerd a true as opposed to a false prophet or teacher.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 5/16/2007 2:22:32 PM
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we need to keep in mind that as christians we are footstep followers of Jesus Christ. while Christ was on this earth as the Son of God, he had nothing of his own daily His Father supplied His needs. He said that He came to minister to, not to be ministered to. when He was asked or notified that there was not enough of something, He supplied (fish & bread) and don't forget the wine at te marriage feast. but through His whole entire ministry on earth the only thing __He__ did not want to do was hang on the cross, but if the Father willed that for Him He would do it. it is those kinds of examples that we as christians need to lean upon when dealing with falsehoods. always kind in mind that it is not about our feelings, but all about the word of God.
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RE: Juanita Bynum - 3/22/2008 9:52:01 PM
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Juanita Bynum says you are "low grade" if you use a BIC pen.. if you use anything but a $5,000 ink pen or higher.
Don't believe me? Let her own words do the talking: Seriously. Just don't look out the window lately:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLo54GGeS1M
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