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internet safety - 7/10/2008 11:02:56 AM
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mommyplus3
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in recent threads regarding myspace and im...internet safety seems to be a hot topic.
i have also noticed that some posters will share kids' names and other info about them. i know that this is a christian community and for all practical purposes seems safe; however, i am not sure if i would feel comfortable posting personal information. are there any others that agree with me? or am i being paranoid?
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RE: internet safety - 7/10/2008 11:27:56 AM
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karlie
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I agree with you. I do use my kids' fist names on occasion, but not mine or my husbands(which are more unusual). I never use our last name or even mention the town we are from, or any immediate neighboring towns. I won't even answer people who send PMs asking which town I live in until I have become very good friends with them.
I never post pictures of any of us anyplace on the web, including here, and don't mention exact places/towns of work or school or anything like that. I don't call it paranoid...just careful. ANYone can be reading these forums...anyone.
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RE: internet safety - 7/10/2008 1:10:04 PM
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I don't publicly post my kids or my names.
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RE: internet safety - 7/10/2008 1:48:14 PM
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Mrs.Wifey
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I use our first names, but not our last name. I've also posted pictures... I'm sure I've referred to us living in "Denver"(although it's not technically where we live), which gives a general vicinity of where we are but quite honestly this is such a HUGE area that I choose not to worry.
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RE: internet safety - 7/10/2008 4:04:53 PM
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I post first names only, and am careful about giving information that would identify where I live exactly. I usually say "near Syracuse"...haha...good luck finding me with that info! LOL
I worry more about the child molester that hasn't been caught yet and lives on my street (not that I know of one exactly...just saying), or the creepy guy that sometimes paces in front of my house.
Bottom line...any number of people could hurt my family at any given time. I can't worry about it obsessively or I would go crazy.
And yes, that is my husband and I in my avatar. 
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RE: internet safety - 7/10/2008 6:05:56 PM
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i guess i was trying to find a general consensus. with he original topic, so many were/are against myspace and im because of internet safety...i just found it interesting that some of the same posters also included some personal info.
we did an experiment about 2 years before i allowed my kids to have a myspace. i went on their various friends' myspace accounts...after a couple of hours of looking at pics, common friends, and comments, i was able to basically tell my kids who lived where, where they went to school, where they went to church, who they hung out with, etc. it was a very eye-opening experience for my kids - as well as the ones i was checking on. because my kids were so aware and spooked over this, they are crazy careful on their online accounts (yup, i know, cause i check up on them ;o).
it is just still an interesting topic to me
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RE: internet safety - 7/10/2008 8:27:03 PM
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so many were/are against myspace and im because of internet safety...i just found it interesting that some of the same posters also included some personal info.
I think the difference lies in ADULTS choosing what is safe and unsafe and letting our children have free reign on myspace or IMing people we have not pre-approved.
I have a myspace and it is only able to be viewed by those I approve as friends. When my child is old enough to have one without lying about their age or having one through me, I will probably allow it...provided I have the password and they don't and I approve all friends.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 2:44:22 AM
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I understand about wanting to be anonymous for safety and all that, but I had been thinking, even before this thread came up (honest), that I think it WOULD be nice to put faces to the names of the mods, and was thinking of asking Fritz if there could be a directory with all their pictures, but let it only be available to senior members and up or something. Again, I understand if a person wants to be anonymous, but I also have a desire to put faces with those that are moderating us. Just my food for thought.
Honestly, looking at this website through not my own eyes, I really can't see troublesome people hanging around here long. It's just a little too wholesome for certain types of people, and they would get bored fast, in my opinion.
FWIW, my younger sister and her husband met on a christian dating site(and I know this isn't a dating site), and they are very very happy. He did not turn out to be a psychopath.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 5:33:21 AM
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If people really wanted to find out who you are, they could!! All the safety in the world isn't enough sometimes. Some people are really knowledged with computers and can do limitless things. Just throwing out your trash could give people info about you. I think the key is supervision. Knowing what our children are doing is the best way to avoid unwanted people around our children.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 9:47:20 AM
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I have always had this question but was not sure how to ask. I have no problem with people who mention their family members by name or even post their picture. I am assuming they feel safe or they wouldn't do it.
My question, do you completely trust everyone and their intentions on bulletin boards in regards to pictures of your children? Again, I am not criticizing, just curious. I enjoy the pictures of members and their families.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 10:32:45 AM
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I think it WOULD be nice to put faces to the names of the mods, and was thinking of asking Fritz if there could be a directory with all their pictures, but let it only be available to senior members and up
There are several of us who would never consent to that. Being a mod puts us at a little more risk. Threats aren't all that unusual, and it's not just newcomers, either  I don't think being a mod means we should have to give up our anonymity anymore than anyone else should be expected to.
I'm not paranoid at all and certainly don't spend my time worrying about my internet safety anymore so than I do in real life. Who has time for that? But, just as I take a few precautions when I am out of my house, I take a few online too.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 10:38:48 AM
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Being a mod puts us at a little more risk. Threats aren't all that unusual, and it's not just newcomers, either
That's terrible!
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 10:51:11 AM
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Mrs.Wifey
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My question, do you completely trust everyone and their intentions on bulletin boards in regards to pictures of your children? Again, I am not criticizing, just curious. I enjoy the pictures of members and their families.
I worry more about the pervert at the pool then I do the one over the internet. If I spend all my time constantly worrying about who might be looking at a picture of my daughter(she is always fully clothed) then I would go nuts.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 12:09:04 PM
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Frankly, I'm glad you have your baby's pic. posted because she is SO cute! It's fun to see her. I love how she has her finger in her mouth in the avatar. That's adorable.
Your siggy is hilarious!
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 12:18:24 PM
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I do not post my children's names, mine or my husband's name, where we live and I never post pictures. My husband would not want me using his name on some message board and my kids are older and they probably wouldn't want their names on a message board they have no part in either.
I have been on a few other message boards and I have seen terrible things happen to people who post too much information and have also had the pictures they posted lifted and used in horrible ways.
I know people can find out a lot of things and probably pretty easily if they know what they are doing, but I won't make it any easier by giving names and putting pictures on the net. I have made what I thought were pretty innocent comments or had people take a comment the wrong way and have them get upset so you just never know what people will do.
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RE: internet safety - 7/11/2008 3:12:50 PM
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I reveal my last name, town I live in, and my kids' name on here. The guy standing in line behind me has the same info as soon as the checker says, "Thanks for shopping at Safeway Mrs. Bazarian." The very same guy could have heard me ask, "What kind of cereal do you want, Timmy?" That guy can follow me home. Pervs on the internet are no different than pervs in the grocery store, IMO.
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RE: internet safety - 7/12/2008 2:12:41 AM
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I occasionally give out first names. I have participated in many Secret Sister and Card Exchange threads, so there are people on here who do know my name, address, phone number and other personal information. I have posted one picture of my youngest dd, but you couldn't really see her, mainly just her hair (it was a thread about hair.) A long time ago, under a different nickname, I had my pic for an av.
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RE: internet safety - 7/12/2008 2:27:41 AM
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I'm sort of baffled as to how this conversation became about using names and such. I get to talk to parents all the time about their kids. I am continually amazed at how many kids have Myspace, Facebook, Bebo, and other social networking accounts that the parents either know nothing about or, that the parents have never looked at. I responded to a call from a parent in which the dad reported that his 15 year old son had been threatened by another boy. I asked the kid if the threats were made verbally, face to face, if they were on his phone or in an email. The kid said they wre on his Myspace page. I asked if they were public comments. he said they were in the email of his Myspace. I then asked the kid if the threats were a response to the public writings he had posted on his Myspace page. The kid looked at me like, "How did you know about my Myspace?" The dad flipped out and said, "I thought you were doing innocent stuff on there." The dad then revealed that he knew the kid had an account, but he had never looked at it. I happened to look at it because the dad had reported the kid missing a few weeks before and didn't give us a picture. I went to Myspace, typed in his name and found him. His profile picture showed an angry young man and his comments combined with the picture conjured up an image of the next school shooter.
Seems to me, as parents, if we are going to allow our kids access to the internet, we better be looking at what they're doing and where they're going as well as who they are hanging out with. We can use social networking sites as another means of communication with them. They may say they want privacy as teens, but they really do want us to be involved. They want to know we love them enough to know what's going on. If we're involved in their lives, we'll know when some pervert is trying to stalk them on line or in real life. We'll know what makes them tick and where their hearts are. And, when talking with other parents, encourage them to get involved and learn how to use the computer.
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RE: internet safety - 7/12/2008 2:34:15 AM
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ORIGINAL: zamdad
They may say they want privacy as teens, but they really do want us to be involved. They want to know we love them enough to know what's going on.
I like one of the signs on my dd's school campus:
You're on school grounds.
You're on camera.
You have no privacy.
Deal with it!
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RE: internet safety - 7/12/2008 8:33:12 AM
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mommyplus3
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ORIGINAL: zamdad
I'm sort of baffled as to how this conversation became about using names and such. I get to talk to parents all the time about their kids. I am continually amazed at how many kids have Myspace, Facebook, Bebo, and other social networking accounts that the parents either know nothing about or, that the parents have never looked at. I responded to a call from a parent in which the dad reported that his 15 year old son had been threatened by another boy. I asked the kid if the threats were made verbally, face to face, if they were on his phone or in an email. The kid said they wre on his Myspace page. I asked if they were public comments. he said they were in the email of his Myspace. I then asked the kid if the threats were a response to the public writings he had posted on his Myspace page. The kid looked at me like, "How did you know about my Myspace?" The dad flipped out and said, "I thought you were doing innocent stuff on there." The dad then revealed that he knew the kid had an account, but he had never looked at it. I happened to look at it because the dad had reported the kid missing a few weeks before and didn't give us a picture. I went to Myspace, typed in his name and found him. His profile picture showed an angry young man and his comments combined with the picture conjured up an image of the next school shooter.
Seems to me, as parents, if we are going to allow our kids access to the internet, we better be looking at what they're doing and where they're going as well as who they are hanging out with. We can use social networking sites as another means of communication with them. They may say they want privacy as teens, but they really do want us to be involved. They want to know we love them enough to know what's going on. If we're involved in their lives, we'll know when some pervert is trying to stalk them on line or in real life. We'll know what makes them tick and where their hearts are. And, when talking with other parents, encourage them to get involved and learn how to use the computer.
i totally agree with parents need to be involved and aware as to what their children are doing online.
the reason that this topic became about names and other personal info, is that i am trying to wrap my mind around how those, who can be most against having a child on myspace, etc, can post personal info without worry. i am not criticizing anyone - just trying to understand.
for us, it is a family hard and steadfast rule that no info be posted online about any of us. even my sil, who has a myspace to share pics of her son with family members, does not post any pics or info about my kids. i know that online can be a scary place, but that doesn't mean it always is - it can be beneficial as well (just look at this site). i allow my children to have myspace, im, email, etc. i DO keep a watch on what they're doing...and they do know not to post any info. please don't blast me for this...but i would feel hypocritical if i posted personal info, but told them not to. lead by example, kwim? anyway, it is just my opinion...and something i'm trying to understand. sorry if i offended anyone, as that is never my intention.
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