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The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/13/2008 10:53:46 AM
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thevoiceofone
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Greetings beloved, I have been pondering the issue of the Day of the Lord (DOL henceforth) It appears that if one could define its scriptural parameters a more exact understanding of the issues that surround the subject would be forthcoming. Issues such as how long is it? Is it 1 day, 2 days, a month or an undefined time frame? What comes before, during, and afterward is also neccesary to have clear in ones mind. I personally get the feeling that it is not necessarily a single precise day nor do I think we can assume because of the Rabbi's that it is two days. The word day as used in both covenants would be the factor one needs to resolve as to what it can potentially mean and hopefully to come to the correct conclusion as to what it actually means in context. Religious tradition has the habit of infecting ones understanding in this type of seeking the truth. I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God. How bout you?
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/13/2008 11:34:05 AM
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thevoiceofone
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The DOL in the book of Joel has inherent in the description given of an event or events that consumes more then just one day. The language paints a clear picture of this by the use of an invading army. Armies seldom conqeour cities in a day especially when the populace is armed as the Israelis are. House to house fighting in Jerusalem would be a prolonged and bloody affair. Then there is the promise at 2:17 or thereabouts that if the people seek God with prayer and fasting He will deal with the invader. This also implies a time frame greater then a day or two. Well those are some preliminary thoughts of mine.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/13/2008 1:05:45 PM
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Keeping my reply short let me say the following. I believe that the Feast of Rosh Hashanah will in fact be the event of Mat 24:31 where Christ gathers the saints. The Feast of Yom Kippur will usher in the second coming of Christ. The physical timing between these two feasts is only a period of ten days, which in my opinion is not sufficient to allow the events of the Wrath of God to occur. The fifth trumpet alone consumes five months. I feel the Day of the Lord will be basically a one year period which has some scriptural merit because of equating a day of the Lords time to a year of earth’s time. Bob
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/13/2008 10:01:19 PM
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thevoiceofone
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That has been my reasoning also. There is an aweful lot going on and to try and make it all fit into one day, or even two, seems to fly in the face of both reason and what the scripture shows in other places about the temporal day of the Lord as seen in Israeli history.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/13/2008 11:03:10 PM
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bob97
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Well I'm sure we will hear from some others on the subject. The Saint and I have discussed this a little, he leans towards a two day event, so we'll see what he has to say. This is something we have been meaning to put up for discussion so thanks for putting it up. Bob
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/15/2008 7:58:49 PM
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bob97
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Gee...either people don't know what it is or else they don't care. Bob
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/21/2008 8:29:50 AM
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ORIGINAL: bob97 Keeping my reply short let me say the following. I believe that the Feast of Rosh Hashanah will in fact be the event of Mat 24:31 where Christ gathers the saints. The Feast of Yom Kippur will usher in the second coming of Christ. The physical timing between these two feasts is only a period of ten days, which in my opinion is not sufficient to allow the events of the Wrath of God to occur. The fifth trumpet alone consumes five months. I feel the Day of the Lord will be basically a one year period which has some scriptural merit because of equating a day of the Lords time to a year of earth’s time. Bob Agreed bob97. I think you put it best.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/21/2008 10:40:38 AM
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bob97
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Thanks Biblefreak...at least that makes three of us. Bob
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/23/2008 8:06:04 PM
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The day of the lord is the 7 yr. judgement upon this earth, after the rapture. All unbelievers will go thru Gods day of wrath upon this earth. I Thess. 5: 1-11. All saints will have been raptured before the day of the lord.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/23/2008 11:29:47 PM
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kountrykia45…the Day of the Lord is at best one year in length and maybe less, not seven years. The first 3 ½ years as described in Mat 24 are the beginning of sorrow. Then at the mid point when the Antichrist defiles the temple, begins the Great Tribulation also described in Mat 24. This is the time when the Antichrist unleashes tribulation on Israel and the world. If this tribulation was not shortened no one would survive but God does intervene Mat 24:22 and brings down fire and judgment upon the wicked, this is the Day of the Lord. The gathering of the saints occurs just before the beginning of the Day of the Lord, Mat 24:31. There is no pre tribulation rapture at the beginning of the 70th week SORRY!! Bob
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/24/2008 6:46:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: bob97 Gee...either people don't know what it is or else they don't care. Bob Or they are not allowed to post thier answers. I'll just say the Bible speaks of numerous DOL's.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 3/26/2008 9:37:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: sooner I'll just say the Bible speaks of numerous DOL's. And I say the Bible speaks of the Day of the Lord numerous times. The hard part is reconciling the different aspects to one "day." It can be done.
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The Day of the LORD is the Sabbath! - 4/5/2008 11:04:11 AM
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YeUM (Yom) a "day" is a 'heat' or active period of function (like from rising up to settling down), so it varies~ from Genesis 1, to the "Day as a Thousand Years" of Moses' Psalm, to the "Day" as we know it common in scripture -as a revolution of the Earth on its axis. Still even that cannot be dated as the date line (Sunset by Hebrew reckoning) is making it 2 days worldwide at any given time. The "Day of the LORD" is the Sabbath (7th day) from Sunset to Sunset when prayer is to be resolved determined and expressed, but that is maybe not what you speak of if a Prophetic timeframe is in order, as to a Prophet (Man of God)a Year is a Day in the counting.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/7/2008 12:40:47 AM
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ORIGINAL: thevoiceofone Greetings beloved, I have been pondering the issue of the Day of the Lord (DOL henceforth) It appears that if one could define its scriptural parameters a more exact understanding of the issues that surround the subject would be forthcoming. Issues such as how long is it? Is it 1 day, 2 days, a month or an undefined time frame? What comes before, during, and afterward is also neccesary to have clear in ones mind. I personally get the feeling that it is not necessarily a single precise day nor do I think we can assume because of the Rabbi's that it is two days. The word day as used in both covenants would be the factor one needs to resolve as to what it can potentially mean and hopefully to come to the correct conclusion as to what it actually means in context. Religious tradition has the habit of infecting ones understanding in this type of seeking the truth. I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God. How bout you? The day of the Lord. That phrase seems to indicate a period of time when the God of the Bible is exacting vengence against the sinners in the world. It seems that there has been several of them in the past and another is planned for the end times. Examples. Jeremiah 46 tells of one that was predicted to go against the Eygptians in the days of Nebuchadrezzar. Isaiah 13 says that there was a day of the Lord when the Northern kingdom of Israel was conquered in 725 BC. Ezekial 30 is a retelling of the fall of Eygpt in the days of Nebuchadrezzar. Zephaniah 1 tells of the fall of Judah in 605 BC. And that there was a day of the Lord then. Zechariah 14 speaks of the future end time day of the Lord where the mount of Olives is split in half. And considering the events of the end times I would have to say there are 2 of these days of the Lord coming up. The first will occur when the 6th seal of Revelation is opened. The 2nd is at the battle of Armageddeon. Zechariah 14 places one there. Also it seems that the events of Gog-Magog of Ezekial 38 and 39 also occur on a day of the Lord. And those events may coincide with one of the two days listed above. The same with the prophesies of Joel. Or there could be 3 or more days of the Lord. It is a complicated subject.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/12/2008 6:00:18 AM
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The Lord's Day On what foundation is the Christian church built? "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone." Ephesians 2:20. By whom were all things created? "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ." Ephesians 3:9. When was the creation finished? "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Genesis 1:31. "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." Genesis 2:1. [Edited by moderator - copyright violation]
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/12/2008 12:27:12 PM
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/15/2008 2:01:30 PM
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“What saith the Scriptures?” 2 Pet 3:8-12 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, THAT ONE DAY IS WITH THE LORD AS A THOUSAND YEARS, AND A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Please compare with: Rev 20:1-15 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, AND BOUND HIM A THOUSAND YEARS, 3 AND CAST HIM INTO THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, AND SHUT HIM UP, AND SET A SEAL UPON HIM, THAT HE SHOULD DECEIVE THE NATIONS NO MORE, TILL THE THOUSAND YEARS SHOULD BE FULFILLED: AND AFTER THAT HE MUST BE LOOSED A LITTLE SEASON. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. The Day of the Lord is a period of a thousand years according to 2 Peter 3.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/16/2008 9:05:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: notmycity The Day of the Lord is a period of a thousand years according to 2 Peter 3. I think that's a misapplication of Scripture. Not every day is a thousand years. Now the Millennium is a thousand year Sabbath in many respects mirroring the week, but to say that is the Day of the Lord spoken out in Bible prophecy misses the mark.
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/16/2008 10:19:58 AM
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ORIGINAL: Sinner-Saint quote:
ORIGINAL: notmycity The Day of the Lord is a period of a thousand years according to 2 Peter 3. I think that's a misapplication of Scripture. Not every day is a thousand years. Now the Millennium is a thousand year Sabbath in many respects mirroring the week, but to say that is the Day of the Lord spoken out in Bible prophecy misses the mark. Please tell when the elements will melt with fervent heat? Please see Revelation 20. That's a huge "clue".
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RE: The Day of the Lord, What is it? - 4/16/2008 2:55:12 PM
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At the end of the Millennium, not to be confused with the first Trumpet's fire which happens on the second half of the Day of the Lord.
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