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Can You Believe This? - 7/10/2008 10:43:12 AM   
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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/10/2008 10:48:30 AM   
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Maybe he should sue Gutenberg's descendants since he printed the book first.

Just so everyone knows: That's sarcastic.
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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/10/2008 10:49:57 AM   
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When I saw your thread title, I just knew it had be this story. It is unbelievable! Sad, sad commentary on our current society!

It will be interesting to see if this actually makes it to court.

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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 1:00:21 AM   
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In order to be thorough, he really should be suing Tyndale - I'm fairly sure that translations they publish have similar wording...

The whole case is ridiculous. Hopefully the judges realize this.
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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 1:09:20 AM   
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In answer to the question: sadly, yes.

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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 1:41:12 AM   
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To be honest, I'm a little bit surprised it hasn't happened before. And it could be worse. It could have been in Canada. Some of the renegade human rights tribunals in the Western provinces might even be sympathetic to this guy's argument. (The eastern ones less so.)

That said, this guy's got a pretty tough case to prove. For one thing, there are other verses in the Bible - i.e. in the Levitican law - that are not controversially translated at all, except among certain liberal minority groups. For another, it's not Zondervan's fault in any event - they just have to say that they published the translation in good faith and that it was produced by qualified translation committees, not by Zondervan itself. It's a historical text and there was no intent to harm anyone, I'm sure. And for yet another, this man surely must sue - if he intends to sue anyone, which I don't usually think is a good way to resolve conflicts - the people who actually harmed him, not the publishers of a book used by the people who harmed him.

I'm sorry that Fowler feels he has been harmed but I really do not think that the publisher of a Bible translation is responsible for that, even if the verse in question is translated incorrectly, which I'm not sure about.

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In order to be thorough, he really should be suing Tyndale - I'm fairly sure that translations they publish have similar wording...

In an unusual case, the station that reported this actually did do its homework - it went to the library to check other translations, and it also tried to contact some professors. (This is in the article.) However, the claim by the man seems to be specifically that the people who harmed him used only Zondervan Bibles, so I can see why the case is limited, though I don't see why the case would be justified.
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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 7:43:36 AM   
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It's probably just to get attention. Fowler probably doesn't really expect it to go anywhere. He probably knows it's not Zondervan's fault, but he probably wants to hold the Bible itself accountable, and there's no other way for him to do that.

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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 10:47:38 AM   
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That shows the bible ignorance of his family because that word is used more times than just the one.

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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 10:47:57 AM   
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Fowler says his family's pastor used that Zondervan Bible, and because of it his family considered him a sinner and he suffered.

Gee...according to ALL my Bibles, regardless of publisher, we ALL are sinners....

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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 10:57:34 AM   
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It is all modern day book burning! Accept it is done through the courts by fascist liberals who want to take away oppossing views through legal means. If, and I mean it is possible with a liberal court, if this guy wins, pubishers of Christian books will all BE TARGETED next. This is only the beginnig.

OH! BTW I am offended by the translation of this book CAREFUL HERE
Someone get my attorney on the phone! Who can I sue!!!!!
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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/11/2008 1:35:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair

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Fowler says his family's pastor used that Zondervan Bible, and because of it his family considered him a sinner and he suffered.

Gee...according to ALL my Bibles, regardless of publisher, we ALL are sinners....


Wow, what a basis for a class action suit!


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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/12/2008 1:22:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rcjames

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair

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Fowler says his family's pastor used that Zondervan Bible, and because of it his family considered him a sinner and he suffered.

Gee...according to ALL my Bibles, regardless of publisher, we ALL are sinners....


Wow, what a basis for a class action suit!


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Yeah, maybe they can get it changed somehow so that it would then read we are all winners. You know, you gotta make everyone feel good about themselves, that's all that really matters, right?
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RE: Can You Believe This? - 7/12/2008 10:31:15 PM   
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Just thank godness the case is not before the Ninth "Circus" Court
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